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May 1, 2011 at 8:50 AM #692039May 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM #690903
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Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=CA renter][quote=jimmyle]My wife works for the government. Theoretically positions are opened for everyone. However, 99% of positions are filled with relatives and friends. They post the positions online but usually just for show.
[quote=CA renter]
you do not need to “know someone” to get in.[/quote][/quote]Hogwash. I’ve worked in the public sector, as have many of my friends and family members. Not a single one got in because of connections. As a matter of fact, I know of a handful of people whose fathers were pretty high up in the public sector, and ALL of them were turned down for jobs specifically because of their family connections. The public employers didn’t want any hint of impropriety.
I’ve also worked in the private sector, and nepotism was much more prevalent there than in the public sector…MUCH more prevalent.
Conversely, I know a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry, and almost all of them are there because they had the right connections.[/quote]
Horse shit.
The fact that you were not able to get a job based on some kind of nyptisim (couldn’t even get the spell checker to figure that word out) does not conclude that it does not exist within government positions. I am sure there is varying degrees of this depending on the sector/level of worker needed but there are plenty of places where this is the only door in.My mother is a hiring clerk at a very large county government. She complains to me every day that she sent five or six qualified candidates to a job interview only to have the hiring manager of that department come back to her with re-written job qualifications that lowers the bar to get a “buddy” in that was not qualified under current requirements nor one of the candidates that she sent.
The irony being, that for the most part, this is a unionized shop.
CE[/quote]
Nepotism:
Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends regardless of merit.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
———————I’m not saying that it NEVER exists in the public sector, but it is far, far less common that what exists in the private sector.
Again, I know many public employees at all levels, and NONE of them got their jobs as a result of having the right connections.
May 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM #690974Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=CA renter][quote=jimmyle]My wife works for the government. Theoretically positions are opened for everyone. However, 99% of positions are filled with relatives and friends. They post the positions online but usually just for show.
[quote=CA renter]
you do not need to “know someone” to get in.[/quote][/quote]Hogwash. I’ve worked in the public sector, as have many of my friends and family members. Not a single one got in because of connections. As a matter of fact, I know of a handful of people whose fathers were pretty high up in the public sector, and ALL of them were turned down for jobs specifically because of their family connections. The public employers didn’t want any hint of impropriety.
I’ve also worked in the private sector, and nepotism was much more prevalent there than in the public sector…MUCH more prevalent.
Conversely, I know a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry, and almost all of them are there because they had the right connections.[/quote]
Horse shit.
The fact that you were not able to get a job based on some kind of nyptisim (couldn’t even get the spell checker to figure that word out) does not conclude that it does not exist within government positions. I am sure there is varying degrees of this depending on the sector/level of worker needed but there are plenty of places where this is the only door in.My mother is a hiring clerk at a very large county government. She complains to me every day that she sent five or six qualified candidates to a job interview only to have the hiring manager of that department come back to her with re-written job qualifications that lowers the bar to get a “buddy” in that was not qualified under current requirements nor one of the candidates that she sent.
The irony being, that for the most part, this is a unionized shop.
CE[/quote]
Nepotism:
Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends regardless of merit.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
———————I’m not saying that it NEVER exists in the public sector, but it is far, far less common that what exists in the private sector.
Again, I know many public employees at all levels, and NONE of them got their jobs as a result of having the right connections.
May 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM #691579Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=CA renter][quote=jimmyle]My wife works for the government. Theoretically positions are opened for everyone. However, 99% of positions are filled with relatives and friends. They post the positions online but usually just for show.
[quote=CA renter]
you do not need to “know someone” to get in.[/quote][/quote]Hogwash. I’ve worked in the public sector, as have many of my friends and family members. Not a single one got in because of connections. As a matter of fact, I know of a handful of people whose fathers were pretty high up in the public sector, and ALL of them were turned down for jobs specifically because of their family connections. The public employers didn’t want any hint of impropriety.
I’ve also worked in the private sector, and nepotism was much more prevalent there than in the public sector…MUCH more prevalent.
Conversely, I know a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry, and almost all of them are there because they had the right connections.[/quote]
Horse shit.
The fact that you were not able to get a job based on some kind of nyptisim (couldn’t even get the spell checker to figure that word out) does not conclude that it does not exist within government positions. I am sure there is varying degrees of this depending on the sector/level of worker needed but there are plenty of places where this is the only door in.My mother is a hiring clerk at a very large county government. She complains to me every day that she sent five or six qualified candidates to a job interview only to have the hiring manager of that department come back to her with re-written job qualifications that lowers the bar to get a “buddy” in that was not qualified under current requirements nor one of the candidates that she sent.
The irony being, that for the most part, this is a unionized shop.
CE[/quote]
Nepotism:
Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends regardless of merit.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
———————I’m not saying that it NEVER exists in the public sector, but it is far, far less common that what exists in the private sector.
Again, I know many public employees at all levels, and NONE of them got their jobs as a result of having the right connections.
May 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM #691726Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=CA renter][quote=jimmyle]My wife works for the government. Theoretically positions are opened for everyone. However, 99% of positions are filled with relatives and friends. They post the positions online but usually just for show.
[quote=CA renter]
you do not need to “know someone” to get in.[/quote][/quote]Hogwash. I’ve worked in the public sector, as have many of my friends and family members. Not a single one got in because of connections. As a matter of fact, I know of a handful of people whose fathers were pretty high up in the public sector, and ALL of them were turned down for jobs specifically because of their family connections. The public employers didn’t want any hint of impropriety.
I’ve also worked in the private sector, and nepotism was much more prevalent there than in the public sector…MUCH more prevalent.
Conversely, I know a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry, and almost all of them are there because they had the right connections.[/quote]
Horse shit.
The fact that you were not able to get a job based on some kind of nyptisim (couldn’t even get the spell checker to figure that word out) does not conclude that it does not exist within government positions. I am sure there is varying degrees of this depending on the sector/level of worker needed but there are plenty of places where this is the only door in.My mother is a hiring clerk at a very large county government. She complains to me every day that she sent five or six qualified candidates to a job interview only to have the hiring manager of that department come back to her with re-written job qualifications that lowers the bar to get a “buddy” in that was not qualified under current requirements nor one of the candidates that she sent.
The irony being, that for the most part, this is a unionized shop.
CE[/quote]
Nepotism:
Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends regardless of merit.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
———————I’m not saying that it NEVER exists in the public sector, but it is far, far less common that what exists in the private sector.
Again, I know many public employees at all levels, and NONE of them got their jobs as a result of having the right connections.
May 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM #692073Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=CA renter][quote=jimmyle]My wife works for the government. Theoretically positions are opened for everyone. However, 99% of positions are filled with relatives and friends. They post the positions online but usually just for show.
[quote=CA renter]
you do not need to “know someone” to get in.[/quote][/quote]Hogwash. I’ve worked in the public sector, as have many of my friends and family members. Not a single one got in because of connections. As a matter of fact, I know of a handful of people whose fathers were pretty high up in the public sector, and ALL of them were turned down for jobs specifically because of their family connections. The public employers didn’t want any hint of impropriety.
I’ve also worked in the private sector, and nepotism was much more prevalent there than in the public sector…MUCH more prevalent.
Conversely, I know a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry, and almost all of them are there because they had the right connections.[/quote]
Horse shit.
The fact that you were not able to get a job based on some kind of nyptisim (couldn’t even get the spell checker to figure that word out) does not conclude that it does not exist within government positions. I am sure there is varying degrees of this depending on the sector/level of worker needed but there are plenty of places where this is the only door in.My mother is a hiring clerk at a very large county government. She complains to me every day that she sent five or six qualified candidates to a job interview only to have the hiring manager of that department come back to her with re-written job qualifications that lowers the bar to get a “buddy” in that was not qualified under current requirements nor one of the candidates that she sent.
The irony being, that for the most part, this is a unionized shop.
CE[/quote]
Nepotism:
Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends regardless of merit.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
———————I’m not saying that it NEVER exists in the public sector, but it is far, far less common that what exists in the private sector.
Again, I know many public employees at all levels, and NONE of them got their jobs as a result of having the right connections.
May 1, 2011 at 3:33 PM #690908paramount
ParticipantAll I know is that California desperately needs a Wisconsin type revolt against public employee unions.
Eventually it will happen, but sadly not with the current administration. Actually, because the Brown administration is making the situation even worse the backlash may be sooner rather than later.
May 1, 2011 at 3:33 PM #690979ParticipantAll I know is that California desperately needs a Wisconsin type revolt against public employee unions.
Eventually it will happen, but sadly not with the current administration. Actually, because the Brown administration is making the situation even worse the backlash may be sooner rather than later.
May 1, 2011 at 3:33 PM #691584ParticipantAll I know is that California desperately needs a Wisconsin type revolt against public employee unions.
Eventually it will happen, but sadly not with the current administration. Actually, because the Brown administration is making the situation even worse the backlash may be sooner rather than later.
May 1, 2011 at 3:33 PM #691731ParticipantAll I know is that California desperately needs a Wisconsin type revolt against public employee unions.
Eventually it will happen, but sadly not with the current administration. Actually, because the Brown administration is making the situation even worse the backlash may be sooner rather than later.
May 1, 2011 at 3:33 PM #692078ParticipantAll I know is that California desperately needs a Wisconsin type revolt against public employee unions.
Eventually it will happen, but sadly not with the current administration. Actually, because the Brown administration is making the situation even worse the backlash may be sooner rather than later.
May 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM #690923TemekuT
ParticipantTrue story – 12 years ago a CPA friend related to me that his college educated brother quit his private industry job to go to work as a prison guard.
1. He got in for the interview because his brother-in-law worked for the prison system, and he was given preference in the initial interview process.
2. He wanted the job because the overtime and perks were so great that he made substantially more than what he made in private industry.
May 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM #690994ParticipantTrue story – 12 years ago a CPA friend related to me that his college educated brother quit his private industry job to go to work as a prison guard.
1. He got in for the interview because his brother-in-law worked for the prison system, and he was given preference in the initial interview process.
2. He wanted the job because the overtime and perks were so great that he made substantially more than what he made in private industry.
May 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM #691599ParticipantTrue story – 12 years ago a CPA friend related to me that his college educated brother quit his private industry job to go to work as a prison guard.
1. He got in for the interview because his brother-in-law worked for the prison system, and he was given preference in the initial interview process.
2. He wanted the job because the overtime and perks were so great that he made substantially more than what he made in private industry.
May 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM #691746ParticipantTrue story – 12 years ago a CPA friend related to me that his college educated brother quit his private industry job to go to work as a prison guard.
1. He got in for the interview because his brother-in-law worked for the prison system, and he was given preference in the initial interview process.
2. He wanted the job because the overtime and perks were so great that he made substantially more than what he made in private industry.
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