OT: Anyone watching the live feed of BP cutting the stack?

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]It’s interesting to see how the contingencies are failing one after the other.[/quote]
It’s predictable. They are trying (and failing at) all the same things they tried in 1979 for the Ixtoc I spill. The Ixtoc I spill was also in the Gulf of Mexico, but in Mexican territory. Pemex was the oil company for that one.

In that one they tried putting a giant funnel cap over it – calling it “The Sombrero”. This time around they called it “Top Hat”. Same results.

In that one they put out massive amounts of boom and chemical dispersant – and still had lots of oil reach delicate coastlines. Same thing this time. Except more dispersant is being used because the oil is deeper.

In that one they had divers try to shove steel balls in the hole to try to stop it. This time we had ROVs shove golf balls and debris in – calling it the “junk shot”. Didn’t work then or now.

In that one 160 miles of U.S. beaches were impacted… and laborers had to clean the barrier island beaches with rakes and shovels. Same thing is happening now.

They haven’t come up with any new methods/technologies in the past 30 years. The ixtoc well was only a few hundred feet down – and still couldn’t be plugged.

What stopped the spill in 1979 was the drilling of the relief well. 5 months to drill the relief wells, then another 4 months to successfully cap it. That’s probably going to be the final solution this time. It took 9 months to cap Ixtoc. Lets see how long it takes this time.

[Coronita]

I can’t imagine the engineering complexity of dealing with this at 5000+ below. It must be a nightmare. I was erred in that I thought they sprung a leak on the side. It turns out they were making a side cut (didn’t see the saw in the video when I looked)…

If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work

Too bad the robotics aren’t good enough yet to be able to unscrew bolts. Would would be interesting if they could get robotics to actually unscrew the bolts bolting the stack they are trying to sheer from the bottom, and replace it with a new stack with a valve with the same fitting.
Guess, that’s not possible though. Not going to try to second guess the enginerds that are working on this.

[Coronita]

I can’t imagine the engineering complexity of dealing with this at 5000+ below. It must be a nightmare. I was erred in that I thought they sprung a leak on the side. It turns out they were making a side cut (didn’t see the saw in the video when I looked)…

If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work

Too bad the robotics aren’t good enough yet to be able to unscrew bolts. Would would be interesting if they could get robotics to actually unscrew the bolts bolting the stack they are trying to sheer from the bottom, and replace it with a new stack with a valve with the same fitting.
Guess, that’s not possible though. Not going to try to second guess the enginerds that are working on this.

[Coronita]

I can’t imagine the engineering complexity of dealing with this at 5000+ below. It must be a nightmare. I was erred in that I thought they sprung a leak on the side. It turns out they were making a side cut (didn’t see the saw in the video when I looked)…

If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work

Too bad the robotics aren’t good enough yet to be able to unscrew bolts. Would would be interesting if they could get robotics to actually unscrew the bolts bolting the stack they are trying to sheer from the bottom, and replace it with a new stack with a valve with the same fitting.
Guess, that’s not possible though. Not going to try to second guess the enginerds that are working on this.

[Coronita]

I can’t imagine the engineering complexity of dealing with this at 5000+ below. It must be a nightmare. I was erred in that I thought they sprung a leak on the side. It turns out they were making a side cut (didn’t see the saw in the video when I looked)…

If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work

Too bad the robotics aren’t good enough yet to be able to unscrew bolts. Would would be interesting if they could get robotics to actually unscrew the bolts bolting the stack they are trying to sheer from the bottom, and replace it with a new stack with a valve with the same fitting.
Guess, that’s not possible though. Not going to try to second guess the enginerds that are working on this.

[Coronita]

I can’t imagine the engineering complexity of dealing with this at 5000+ below. It must be a nightmare. I was erred in that I thought they sprung a leak on the side. It turns out they were making a side cut (didn’t see the saw in the video when I looked)…

If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work

Too bad the robotics aren’t good enough yet to be able to unscrew bolts. Would would be interesting if they could get robotics to actually unscrew the bolts bolting the stack they are trying to sheer from the bottom, and replace it with a new stack with a valve with the same fitting.
Guess, that’s not possible though. Not going to try to second guess the enginerds that are working on this.

[UCGal]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Maybe someone can answer me this…

This well was going to be shutdown correct?

This seems like a productive well yes… I mean it is pouring millions of gallons into the ocean correct?

So why were they going to shut this thing down?

CE[/quote]

My understanding is the well was to be shut down as part of the required testing before it goes into production… something called a sheen test. Also once the well is drilled, cemented – they replace the rig that has the drilling equipment with one that has extraction equipment.

I could be wrong… but that’s what I’ve gleaned from what I’ve read about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Maybe someone can answer me this…

This well was going to be shutdown correct?

This seems like a productive well yes… I mean it is pouring millions of gallons into the ocean correct?

So why were they going to shut this thing down?

CE[/quote]

My understanding is the well was to be shut down as part of the required testing before it goes into production… something called a sheen test. Also once the well is drilled, cemented – they replace the rig that has the drilling equipment with one that has extraction equipment.

I could be wrong… but that’s what I’ve gleaned from what I’ve read about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Maybe someone can answer me this…

This well was going to be shutdown correct?

This seems like a productive well yes… I mean it is pouring millions of gallons into the ocean correct?

So why were they going to shut this thing down?

CE[/quote]

My understanding is the well was to be shut down as part of the required testing before it goes into production… something called a sheen test. Also once the well is drilled, cemented – they replace the rig that has the drilling equipment with one that has extraction equipment.

I could be wrong… but that’s what I’ve gleaned from what I’ve read about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Maybe someone can answer me this…

This well was going to be shutdown correct?

This seems like a productive well yes… I mean it is pouring millions of gallons into the ocean correct?

So why were they going to shut this thing down?

CE[/quote]

My understanding is the well was to be shut down as part of the required testing before it goes into production… something called a sheen test. Also once the well is drilled, cemented – they replace the rig that has the drilling equipment with one that has extraction equipment.

I could be wrong… but that’s what I’ve gleaned from what I’ve read about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Maybe someone can answer me this…

This well was going to be shutdown correct?

This seems like a productive well yes… I mean it is pouring millions of gallons into the ocean correct?

So why were they going to shut this thing down?

CE[/quote]

My understanding is the well was to be shut down as part of the required testing before it goes into production… something called a sheen test. Also once the well is drilled, cemented – they replace the rig that has the drilling equipment with one that has extraction equipment.

I could be wrong… but that’s what I’ve gleaned from what I’ve read about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]
If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work
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From what I’ve read – they’re not expecting it to do anything more than *slow* the flow. It won’t cap it completely. But slowing the flow is a start.

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]
If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work
[/quote]

From what I’ve read – they’re not expecting it to do anything more than *slow* the flow. It won’t cap it completely. But slowing the flow is a start.

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]
If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work
[/quote]

From what I’ve read – they’re not expecting it to do anything more than *slow* the flow. It won’t cap it completely. But slowing the flow is a start.

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]
If I were betting, I’d say this “cap” isn’t going to work
[/quote]

From what I’ve read – they’re not expecting it to do anything more than *slow* the flow. It won’t cap it completely. But slowing the flow is a start.

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