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July 23, 2009 at 7:28 AM #436293July 23, 2009 at 8:17 AM #435551
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ParticipantI would say it depends on whether your family member was hurt or not. When an airbag goes off, it causes a pretty traumatic impact on the person. I’ve known 2 people who had their airbags deploy and they both looked like they got mugged (bloodshot eyes, scratches, bruising, etc). One of those guys had his airbag accidently deploy while going over a speed bump and his face still looked trashed. I worked with the group that invented airbags and they had all kinds of horror stories about the damage it could do.
Over time, technology has gotten better and cars have gotten smarter about deploying airbags. So if your family member wasn’t hurt, its likely that the airbag didn’t go off by design. The car computer may have figured that the airbag would have hurt your family member more than the accident would. But if your family member’s head hit the steering wheel, then that’s a different story.
July 23, 2009 at 8:17 AM #435757ParticipantI would say it depends on whether your family member was hurt or not. When an airbag goes off, it causes a pretty traumatic impact on the person. I’ve known 2 people who had their airbags deploy and they both looked like they got mugged (bloodshot eyes, scratches, bruising, etc). One of those guys had his airbag accidently deploy while going over a speed bump and his face still looked trashed. I worked with the group that invented airbags and they had all kinds of horror stories about the damage it could do.
Over time, technology has gotten better and cars have gotten smarter about deploying airbags. So if your family member wasn’t hurt, its likely that the airbag didn’t go off by design. The car computer may have figured that the airbag would have hurt your family member more than the accident would. But if your family member’s head hit the steering wheel, then that’s a different story.
July 23, 2009 at 8:17 AM #436076ParticipantI would say it depends on whether your family member was hurt or not. When an airbag goes off, it causes a pretty traumatic impact on the person. I’ve known 2 people who had their airbags deploy and they both looked like they got mugged (bloodshot eyes, scratches, bruising, etc). One of those guys had his airbag accidently deploy while going over a speed bump and his face still looked trashed. I worked with the group that invented airbags and they had all kinds of horror stories about the damage it could do.
Over time, technology has gotten better and cars have gotten smarter about deploying airbags. So if your family member wasn’t hurt, its likely that the airbag didn’t go off by design. The car computer may have figured that the airbag would have hurt your family member more than the accident would. But if your family member’s head hit the steering wheel, then that’s a different story.
July 23, 2009 at 8:17 AM #436149ParticipantI would say it depends on whether your family member was hurt or not. When an airbag goes off, it causes a pretty traumatic impact on the person. I’ve known 2 people who had their airbags deploy and they both looked like they got mugged (bloodshot eyes, scratches, bruising, etc). One of those guys had his airbag accidently deploy while going over a speed bump and his face still looked trashed. I worked with the group that invented airbags and they had all kinds of horror stories about the damage it could do.
Over time, technology has gotten better and cars have gotten smarter about deploying airbags. So if your family member wasn’t hurt, its likely that the airbag didn’t go off by design. The car computer may have figured that the airbag would have hurt your family member more than the accident would. But if your family member’s head hit the steering wheel, then that’s a different story.
July 23, 2009 at 8:17 AM #436318ParticipantI would say it depends on whether your family member was hurt or not. When an airbag goes off, it causes a pretty traumatic impact on the person. I’ve known 2 people who had their airbags deploy and they both looked like they got mugged (bloodshot eyes, scratches, bruising, etc). One of those guys had his airbag accidently deploy while going over a speed bump and his face still looked trashed. I worked with the group that invented airbags and they had all kinds of horror stories about the damage it could do.
Over time, technology has gotten better and cars have gotten smarter about deploying airbags. So if your family member wasn’t hurt, its likely that the airbag didn’t go off by design. The car computer may have figured that the airbag would have hurt your family member more than the accident would. But if your family member’s head hit the steering wheel, then that’s a different story.
July 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM #435561sdduuuude
ParticipantThe airbag will trigger when the sensor measures a decelleration over a specified amount. When the crumple zone crumples, it has two effects. 1) It dissapates alot of energy and dramatically reduces the decelleration encountered by the passenger, thus making it less likely that the airbag was needed 2) It makes the car look like it was hit by a train.
I’d have to guess this is a case where the crumple zone makes the accident look worse than it was, especially if nobody was hurt.
July 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM #435767ParticipantThe airbag will trigger when the sensor measures a decelleration over a specified amount. When the crumple zone crumples, it has two effects. 1) It dissapates alot of energy and dramatically reduces the decelleration encountered by the passenger, thus making it less likely that the airbag was needed 2) It makes the car look like it was hit by a train.
I’d have to guess this is a case where the crumple zone makes the accident look worse than it was, especially if nobody was hurt.
July 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM #436086ParticipantThe airbag will trigger when the sensor measures a decelleration over a specified amount. When the crumple zone crumples, it has two effects. 1) It dissapates alot of energy and dramatically reduces the decelleration encountered by the passenger, thus making it less likely that the airbag was needed 2) It makes the car look like it was hit by a train.
I’d have to guess this is a case where the crumple zone makes the accident look worse than it was, especially if nobody was hurt.
July 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM #436159ParticipantThe airbag will trigger when the sensor measures a decelleration over a specified amount. When the crumple zone crumples, it has two effects. 1) It dissapates alot of energy and dramatically reduces the decelleration encountered by the passenger, thus making it less likely that the airbag was needed 2) It makes the car look like it was hit by a train.
I’d have to guess this is a case where the crumple zone makes the accident look worse than it was, especially if nobody was hurt.
July 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM #436328ParticipantThe airbag will trigger when the sensor measures a decelleration over a specified amount. When the crumple zone crumples, it has two effects. 1) It dissapates alot of energy and dramatically reduces the decelleration encountered by the passenger, thus making it less likely that the airbag was needed 2) It makes the car look like it was hit by a train.
I’d have to guess this is a case where the crumple zone makes the accident look worse than it was, especially if nobody was hurt.
July 23, 2009 at 8:36 AM #435546
CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I just looked up the SUVs…
2009 Chevrolet Suburban: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Ford Expedition: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Toyota Tundra: driver 5 star, passenger 4 star[/quote]
um, tundra aren’t suvs..
I just looked at IIHS website. Not sure where the discrepancy is, but seems like both the F-150 and Tundra are rated as Top Picks.
http://www.iihs.orgChevy Silverado is “Good”, but not a top safety pick because of the poor side impact
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=424
Also, Dodge Ram 1500 (Good front/Marginal side impact)
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=401
Anyway, regarding SUVs/Minivan/CUV(partial list). I’ll update it when I have more time
GMC Acadia: Good and Top Pick
GMC Envoy: Average (not top pick)
Caddy SRX: Good (but not top pick due to head/neck assessment)
Chevy Equinox: Good (but not top pick…Marginal side impact)
Chevy HHR: Good but not top pick (Acceptable side impact)
Chevy Trailblazer: Acceptable front with marginal side impact
Chevy Traverse: Good and Top Pick
Chevy Uplander: Good but not top pick (acceptable side impact)Chrysler PT Cruiser:(ok not really an SUV): Good front/poor side impact
Chrysler Town and Country/Dodge Caravan Good/Good (but not top pick)
Dodge Caliber (Good front/Marginal side impact)Hummer H3: Acceptable Front and Acceptable Side…Hmm, I guess the H3 isn’t as safe as people think…
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=629Ford Flex: Good and Top Pick
Ford Edge: Good and Top Pick
Ford Ranger (truck, didn’t know they still made them in 2009): Acceptable front/marginal side
Ford Taurus X Good and Top Pick
Ford Explorer Good Frontal/Acceptable side (not top pick)
Ford Explorer Sport Trac Good Frontal/no side impact test done yetJeep Patriot: Good/Good
Jeep Grand Cherokke: Good/Marginal
Jeep Liberty: Good/MarginalSaturn Vue: Good/Good Top Pick
Saturn Outlook: Good/Good Top PickAcura MDX: Good and Top Pick
Lexus RX: Good and Top Pick
Volvo XC90: Good and Top Pick
VW Toureq: Good and Top Pick
Porsche Cayenne: Good and Top Pick
Honda Pilot: Good and Top Pick
Honda Ridgeline: (yeah I know, this really isn’t a “truck”) Good and Top Pick
Honda Odessey Good and Top Pick
Honda CRV : Good and Top Pick and I guess if you total it, you can get 25cents per pound…Ha ha ha…Hyundai Tucson: Acceptable/Acceptable
Hyundai Veracruz: Good and Top Pick
Hyundai Santa Fe: Good and Top Pick…Kia Sorento: Good/Poor
What? Hyundai safe? Nah, that can’t be…My how times have changed.
Infiniti FX: Good frontal (no side impact test done)
Nissan Pathfinder: Good/good not top safety pick
Nissan Xterra: Good/good not top safety pickToyota 4Runner: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota FJ Cruiser: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota sienna: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota RAV 4: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota highlander Good/good top safety pick
toyota tacoma and tundra: good/good top safety pick (provided it doesn’t fall apart from all that rusting :))Like I said, it’s all over the map
July 23, 2009 at 8:36 AM #435752CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I just looked up the SUVs…
2009 Chevrolet Suburban: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Ford Expedition: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Toyota Tundra: driver 5 star, passenger 4 star[/quote]
um, tundra aren’t suvs..
I just looked at IIHS website. Not sure where the discrepancy is, but seems like both the F-150 and Tundra are rated as Top Picks.
http://www.iihs.orgChevy Silverado is “Good”, but not a top safety pick because of the poor side impact
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=424
Also, Dodge Ram 1500 (Good front/Marginal side impact)
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=401
Anyway, regarding SUVs/Minivan/CUV(partial list). I’ll update it when I have more time
GMC Acadia: Good and Top Pick
GMC Envoy: Average (not top pick)
Caddy SRX: Good (but not top pick due to head/neck assessment)
Chevy Equinox: Good (but not top pick…Marginal side impact)
Chevy HHR: Good but not top pick (Acceptable side impact)
Chevy Trailblazer: Acceptable front with marginal side impact
Chevy Traverse: Good and Top Pick
Chevy Uplander: Good but not top pick (acceptable side impact)Chrysler PT Cruiser:(ok not really an SUV): Good front/poor side impact
Chrysler Town and Country/Dodge Caravan Good/Good (but not top pick)
Dodge Caliber (Good front/Marginal side impact)Hummer H3: Acceptable Front and Acceptable Side…Hmm, I guess the H3 isn’t as safe as people think…
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=629Ford Flex: Good and Top Pick
Ford Edge: Good and Top Pick
Ford Ranger (truck, didn’t know they still made them in 2009): Acceptable front/marginal side
Ford Taurus X Good and Top Pick
Ford Explorer Good Frontal/Acceptable side (not top pick)
Ford Explorer Sport Trac Good Frontal/no side impact test done yetJeep Patriot: Good/Good
Jeep Grand Cherokke: Good/Marginal
Jeep Liberty: Good/MarginalSaturn Vue: Good/Good Top Pick
Saturn Outlook: Good/Good Top PickAcura MDX: Good and Top Pick
Lexus RX: Good and Top Pick
Volvo XC90: Good and Top Pick
VW Toureq: Good and Top Pick
Porsche Cayenne: Good and Top Pick
Honda Pilot: Good and Top Pick
Honda Ridgeline: (yeah I know, this really isn’t a “truck”) Good and Top Pick
Honda Odessey Good and Top Pick
Honda CRV : Good and Top Pick and I guess if you total it, you can get 25cents per pound…Ha ha ha…Hyundai Tucson: Acceptable/Acceptable
Hyundai Veracruz: Good and Top Pick
Hyundai Santa Fe: Good and Top Pick…Kia Sorento: Good/Poor
What? Hyundai safe? Nah, that can’t be…My how times have changed.
Infiniti FX: Good frontal (no side impact test done)
Nissan Pathfinder: Good/good not top safety pick
Nissan Xterra: Good/good not top safety pickToyota 4Runner: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota FJ Cruiser: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota sienna: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota RAV 4: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota highlander Good/good top safety pick
toyota tacoma and tundra: good/good top safety pick (provided it doesn’t fall apart from all that rusting :))Like I said, it’s all over the map
July 23, 2009 at 8:36 AM #436071CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I just looked up the SUVs…
2009 Chevrolet Suburban: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Ford Expedition: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Toyota Tundra: driver 5 star, passenger 4 star[/quote]
um, tundra aren’t suvs..
I just looked at IIHS website. Not sure where the discrepancy is, but seems like both the F-150 and Tundra are rated as Top Picks.
http://www.iihs.orgChevy Silverado is “Good”, but not a top safety pick because of the poor side impact
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=424
Also, Dodge Ram 1500 (Good front/Marginal side impact)
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=401
Anyway, regarding SUVs/Minivan/CUV(partial list). I’ll update it when I have more time
GMC Acadia: Good and Top Pick
GMC Envoy: Average (not top pick)
Caddy SRX: Good (but not top pick due to head/neck assessment)
Chevy Equinox: Good (but not top pick…Marginal side impact)
Chevy HHR: Good but not top pick (Acceptable side impact)
Chevy Trailblazer: Acceptable front with marginal side impact
Chevy Traverse: Good and Top Pick
Chevy Uplander: Good but not top pick (acceptable side impact)Chrysler PT Cruiser:(ok not really an SUV): Good front/poor side impact
Chrysler Town and Country/Dodge Caravan Good/Good (but not top pick)
Dodge Caliber (Good front/Marginal side impact)Hummer H3: Acceptable Front and Acceptable Side…Hmm, I guess the H3 isn’t as safe as people think…
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=629Ford Flex: Good and Top Pick
Ford Edge: Good and Top Pick
Ford Ranger (truck, didn’t know they still made them in 2009): Acceptable front/marginal side
Ford Taurus X Good and Top Pick
Ford Explorer Good Frontal/Acceptable side (not top pick)
Ford Explorer Sport Trac Good Frontal/no side impact test done yetJeep Patriot: Good/Good
Jeep Grand Cherokke: Good/Marginal
Jeep Liberty: Good/MarginalSaturn Vue: Good/Good Top Pick
Saturn Outlook: Good/Good Top PickAcura MDX: Good and Top Pick
Lexus RX: Good and Top Pick
Volvo XC90: Good and Top Pick
VW Toureq: Good and Top Pick
Porsche Cayenne: Good and Top Pick
Honda Pilot: Good and Top Pick
Honda Ridgeline: (yeah I know, this really isn’t a “truck”) Good and Top Pick
Honda Odessey Good and Top Pick
Honda CRV : Good and Top Pick and I guess if you total it, you can get 25cents per pound…Ha ha ha…Hyundai Tucson: Acceptable/Acceptable
Hyundai Veracruz: Good and Top Pick
Hyundai Santa Fe: Good and Top Pick…Kia Sorento: Good/Poor
What? Hyundai safe? Nah, that can’t be…My how times have changed.
Infiniti FX: Good frontal (no side impact test done)
Nissan Pathfinder: Good/good not top safety pick
Nissan Xterra: Good/good not top safety pickToyota 4Runner: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota FJ Cruiser: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota sienna: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota RAV 4: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota highlander Good/good top safety pick
toyota tacoma and tundra: good/good top safety pick (provided it doesn’t fall apart from all that rusting :))Like I said, it’s all over the map
July 23, 2009 at 8:36 AM #436144CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I just looked up the SUVs…
2009 Chevrolet Suburban: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Ford Expedition: driver 5 star, passenger 5 star
2009 Toyota Tundra: driver 5 star, passenger 4 star[/quote]
um, tundra aren’t suvs..
I just looked at IIHS website. Not sure where the discrepancy is, but seems like both the F-150 and Tundra are rated as Top Picks.
http://www.iihs.orgChevy Silverado is “Good”, but not a top safety pick because of the poor side impact
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=424
Also, Dodge Ram 1500 (Good front/Marginal side impact)
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=401
Anyway, regarding SUVs/Minivan/CUV(partial list). I’ll update it when I have more time
GMC Acadia: Good and Top Pick
GMC Envoy: Average (not top pick)
Caddy SRX: Good (but not top pick due to head/neck assessment)
Chevy Equinox: Good (but not top pick…Marginal side impact)
Chevy HHR: Good but not top pick (Acceptable side impact)
Chevy Trailblazer: Acceptable front with marginal side impact
Chevy Traverse: Good and Top Pick
Chevy Uplander: Good but not top pick (acceptable side impact)Chrysler PT Cruiser:(ok not really an SUV): Good front/poor side impact
Chrysler Town and Country/Dodge Caravan Good/Good (but not top pick)
Dodge Caliber (Good front/Marginal side impact)Hummer H3: Acceptable Front and Acceptable Side…Hmm, I guess the H3 isn’t as safe as people think…
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=629Ford Flex: Good and Top Pick
Ford Edge: Good and Top Pick
Ford Ranger (truck, didn’t know they still made them in 2009): Acceptable front/marginal side
Ford Taurus X Good and Top Pick
Ford Explorer Good Frontal/Acceptable side (not top pick)
Ford Explorer Sport Trac Good Frontal/no side impact test done yetJeep Patriot: Good/Good
Jeep Grand Cherokke: Good/Marginal
Jeep Liberty: Good/MarginalSaturn Vue: Good/Good Top Pick
Saturn Outlook: Good/Good Top PickAcura MDX: Good and Top Pick
Lexus RX: Good and Top Pick
Volvo XC90: Good and Top Pick
VW Toureq: Good and Top Pick
Porsche Cayenne: Good and Top Pick
Honda Pilot: Good and Top Pick
Honda Ridgeline: (yeah I know, this really isn’t a “truck”) Good and Top Pick
Honda Odessey Good and Top Pick
Honda CRV : Good and Top Pick and I guess if you total it, you can get 25cents per pound…Ha ha ha…Hyundai Tucson: Acceptable/Acceptable
Hyundai Veracruz: Good and Top Pick
Hyundai Santa Fe: Good and Top Pick…Kia Sorento: Good/Poor
What? Hyundai safe? Nah, that can’t be…My how times have changed.
Infiniti FX: Good frontal (no side impact test done)
Nissan Pathfinder: Good/good not top safety pick
Nissan Xterra: Good/good not top safety pickToyota 4Runner: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota FJ Cruiser: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota sienna: Good/good not top safety pick
Toyota RAV 4: Good/good top safety pick
Toyota highlander Good/good top safety pick
toyota tacoma and tundra: good/good top safety pick (provided it doesn’t fall apart from all that rusting :))Like I said, it’s all over the map
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