Opinions of Betsy DeVos

[Coronita]

Anyone know anything about Betsy DeVos? Just curious….

Seems like a reasonable appointee. But admittedly I know nothing about her.

I guess she favors vouchers.

Can we get rid of common core? 🙂

[an]

flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.

[spdrun]

Vouchers are horrible — the goal should be to make good, local, public education available to all Americans. Not to let public schools further deteriorate while giving parents vouchers, where they need to pay EXTRA money for a decent private school.

Also, vouchers play into the hands of religious asshats who don’t want their sproglets learning about evil-lution, globull warming, and birth control methods. Everyone should have a strong grounding in math, science, literature, history, etc without it being marred by their parents’ idea of some fruitcake fairy up in the sky.

[mixxalot]

sproglet love that term! Never heard it before. Always called the ill spawn as rugrats or hoodrats but this is new.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.[/quote]AN, I thought you previously posted here that you live in an attendance area of awesome public schools!

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.[/quote]AN, I thought you previously posted here that you live in an attendance area of awesome public schools![/quote]Not as awesome as the private school my kids could be going to.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]Vouchers are horrible — the goal should be to make good, local, public education available to all Americans. Not to let public schools further deteriorate while giving parents vouchers, where they need to pay EXTRA money for a decent private school.

Also, vouchers play into the hands of religious asshats who don’t want their sproglets learning about evil-lution, globull warming, and birth control methods. Everyone should have a strong grounding in math, science, literature, history, etc without it being marred by their parents’ idea of some fruitcake fairy up in the sky.[/quote]LoL, how many kids do you have spd?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]Vouchers are horrible — the goal should be to make good, local, public education available to all Americans. Not to let public schools further deteriorate while giving parents vouchers, where they need to pay EXTRA money for a decent private school.

Also, vouchers play into the hands of religious asshats who don’t want their sproglets learning about evil-lution, globull warming, and birth control methods. Everyone should have a strong grounding in math, science, literature, history, etc without it being marred by their parents’ idea of some fruitcake fairy up in the sky.[/quote]I agree that the presence of vouchers will take away from public education funds. I have faith in public school teachers (and counselors/school-site administrators) because they have always risen to the occasion … at least in my experience. Also, parents will use vouchers to send their kids to just a few schools (which won’t have room for all of their applicants) leaving the other neighborhood schools out in the cold, funding wise.

Not everyone has the ability to drive their kid(s) to/from every day to a public or private school of their choice. Many people depend on their kid(s) walking to/from school while they work or take the school bus to/from a school in their own attendance areas.

Also, in CA, vouchers are grossly unfair to homeowners who pay (exorbitant) Mello Roos. Under a voucher system, the schools built with MR bonds (more well-appointed than older schools) will be sought after by families in older areas that don’t deserve to use them because they aren’t paying for them in any way, shape or form (thru property taxes or rent). It’s unjust enrichment to a cross-section of families who are “stealing” public school seats from families who are paying extra for their own kids to occupy those seats.

For the above reasons (as well as the presence of the uber-strong CEA with plenty of top legal eagles on staff), I do not see public school vouchers taking hold in CA.

[Coronita]

Vouchers would be kinda cool. Get more for paying less.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]

Also, vouchers play into the hands of religious asshats who don’t want their sproglets learning about evil-lution, globull warming, and birth control methods. Everyone should have a strong grounding in math, science, literature, history, etc without it being marred by their parents’ idea of some fruitcake fairy up in the sky.[/quote]

I’m ok with vouchers now. If they want to teach that to their kids, all the more power to them. The kids will pay for it later in life. Don’t bother me no more.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.[/quote]AN, I thought you previously posted here that you live in an attendance area of awesome public schools![/quote]Not as awesome as the private school my kids could be going to.[/quote]

At public dollar expenses!!!!! Voucher systems could land you in a private school that isn’t required to use common core math. lol.

Actually, I was talking about common core math with a bunch of parents recently. A lot of the parents that had older siblings were complaining about how the younger sibling, now a product of common core math, were well behind their siblings when they were at the same grade level. Some at the 5th grade level, still can’t do basic arithmetic, even some of the teachers mentioned it.

We never quite bought into to CCM and just did it the old school math and old school problem solving, and played lip service to the N-different ways of solving one problem, drawing a nice pretty diagram, etc. Looks like it ended getting better results. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But those are some pretty good 4-5 different “strategies” that kids come up with to solve the problem. Too bad, in most cases, none of those strategies helped kids reach the correct answer.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.[/quote]AN, I thought you previously posted here that you live in an attendance area of awesome public schools![/quote]Not as awesome as the private school my kids could be going to.[/quote]You DO realize that “school vouchers” will only pay a portion of private school tuition (unless they are Catholic or Protestant – Grades 1-8 only, which tend to be less expensive). I would surmise that you will only receive 1/3 to 1/4 of the tuition from a voucher to pay for any non-denominational well-known private school in SD and possibly only enough to pay 1/5 to 1/6 of the (exorbitant) tuition for private HS through your kid(s) voucher.

[Coronita]

Lol… Looks neither sides like here. Perfect! She’s for voucher and supported common core…. Lol. But maybe you can still have it both ways… Go to a charter school that ain’t teaching common core.

Edit: noticed she’s also a billionaire elite. I bet all her kids go to ivy’s.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/23/politics/betsy-devos-picked-for-education-secretary/index.html

But Trump is also already drawing fire from both sides of the political spectrum for his pick. The largest teacher’s union in the country slammed DeVos within an hour of the announcement for her advocacy of charter schools and school voucher programs, while conservatives quickly pointed out DeVos’ association with groups supporting the Common Core education standards, which Trump has vowed to nix.
DeVos chairs the American Federation for Children, a group that promotes charter school education, and also served on the board of the Foundation for Excellence in Education, a group led by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush — one of Trump’s GOP primary opponents — which promoted both school choice and the Common Core education standards.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Don’t bother me no more.[/quote]FIH/brian. from your last several posts, I gather you are suffering terribly from sore-loseritis. It’s okay … this condition has become quite common of late among the uber-liberal/progressive set.

Say, I have a deplorable friend in SD County whose sow had cute little pink piglets. Are you in SD and if so, would you like to borrow one for TK weekend? They’re tame enough to sit on your lap while you pet them over and over and get out all of your micro-agression through love and compassion. You will also get the opportunity to bottle-feed it. Let me know :=)

[Coronita]

Wait… The world isn’t flat and it evolved?

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