OMG – Someone please control Christine O’donnell

[Shadowfax]

And unfortunately, there goes the whole point of intelligent discourse. When people can’t converse and exchange ideas–ideas that may be different from those that you initially believe in–how will we ever learn anything new? So the “believers” go around with their own small minds, hedged in by fear, looking for confirmation of what they already know. There’s no hope of ever talking any sense into them.

By contrast, I find a small kernel of the “tea party agenda” interesting but have issues with it’s implementation (well, I have lots of issues with their beliefs, but trying to throw them a bone here). I personally am open to any intelligent argument and have often changed how I think about things if I hear the ring of truth, reasonableness, logic and sanity. I’m a free thinker like that.

So, anyone going to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC?

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Arraya]…..Religion, ethnicity, race, nationalism, are not only used as points of affinity but developed as walls and division and are grounds of exploitation. Those within a household to the political offices of a nation learn well and communicate these “differences” to their own advantage.

Maybe we should be glad this is not in california’s curriculum.

From U.S., the ABC’s of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01
In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum.

[/quote]

Spot-on, Arraya. And while I am certainly glad that our children’s schoolbooks are devoid of the material mentioned in the article, it’s touching to see that our government is concerned enough to spend millions to ensure that Afghan schoolchildren have the material necessary for a comprehensive learning experience.

I hope that Christine O’Donnell doesn’t see this article. It might give her ideas for her own innovations in education (with a few minor changes) for when she’s elected. Because she WILL be elected. Perhaps not this time around, but eventually.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Arraya]…..Religion, ethnicity, race, nationalism, are not only used as points of affinity but developed as walls and division and are grounds of exploitation. Those within a household to the political offices of a nation learn well and communicate these “differences” to their own advantage.

Maybe we should be glad this is not in california’s curriculum.

From U.S., the ABC’s of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01
In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum.

[/quote]

Spot-on, Arraya. And while I am certainly glad that our children’s schoolbooks are devoid of the material mentioned in the article, it’s touching to see that our government is concerned enough to spend millions to ensure that Afghan schoolchildren have the material necessary for a comprehensive learning experience.

I hope that Christine O’Donnell doesn’t see this article. It might give her ideas for her own innovations in education (with a few minor changes) for when she’s elected. Because she WILL be elected. Perhaps not this time around, but eventually.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Arraya]…..Religion, ethnicity, race, nationalism, are not only used as points of affinity but developed as walls and division and are grounds of exploitation. Those within a household to the political offices of a nation learn well and communicate these “differences” to their own advantage.

Maybe we should be glad this is not in california’s curriculum.

From U.S., the ABC’s of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01
In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum.

[/quote]

Spot-on, Arraya. And while I am certainly glad that our children’s schoolbooks are devoid of the material mentioned in the article, it’s touching to see that our government is concerned enough to spend millions to ensure that Afghan schoolchildren have the material necessary for a comprehensive learning experience.

I hope that Christine O’Donnell doesn’t see this article. It might give her ideas for her own innovations in education (with a few minor changes) for when she’s elected. Because she WILL be elected. Perhaps not this time around, but eventually.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Arraya]…..Religion, ethnicity, race, nationalism, are not only used as points of affinity but developed as walls and division and are grounds of exploitation. Those within a household to the political offices of a nation learn well and communicate these “differences” to their own advantage.

Maybe we should be glad this is not in california’s curriculum.

From U.S., the ABC’s of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01
In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum.

[/quote]

Spot-on, Arraya. And while I am certainly glad that our children’s schoolbooks are devoid of the material mentioned in the article, it’s touching to see that our government is concerned enough to spend millions to ensure that Afghan schoolchildren have the material necessary for a comprehensive learning experience.

I hope that Christine O’Donnell doesn’t see this article. It might give her ideas for her own innovations in education (with a few minor changes) for when she’s elected. Because she WILL be elected. Perhaps not this time around, but eventually.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Arraya]…..Religion, ethnicity, race, nationalism, are not only used as points of affinity but developed as walls and division and are grounds of exploitation. Those within a household to the political offices of a nation learn well and communicate these “differences” to their own advantage.

Maybe we should be glad this is not in california’s curriculum.

From U.S., the ABC’s of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01
In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum.

[/quote]

Spot-on, Arraya. And while I am certainly glad that our children’s schoolbooks are devoid of the material mentioned in the article, it’s touching to see that our government is concerned enough to spend millions to ensure that Afghan schoolchildren have the material necessary for a comprehensive learning experience.

I hope that Christine O’Donnell doesn’t see this article. It might give her ideas for her own innovations in education (with a few minor changes) for when she’s elected. Because she WILL be elected. Perhaps not this time around, but eventually.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Shadowfax] ….When people can’t converse and exchange ideas–ideas that may be different from those that you initially believe in–how will we ever learn anything new? ….[/quote]

Exactly. Hit the nail squarely on the head, Shadow. Sad, isn’t it?

[quote=Shadowfax]…. I personally am open to any intelligent argument and have often changed how I think about things if I hear the ring of truth, reasonableness, logic and sanity. I’m a free thinker like that.[/quote]

Enjoy it while it lasts. That’s why I’m thankful for Piggs. Enables me to fulfill my fantasy of ever-evolving and often exciting idea exchange, with a side order of piquant and, at times, ribald humor.

[quote=Shadowfax]….So, anyone going to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC?[/quote]

I’ll be there, but I live there, so, admittedly, it will be much more accessible for me. But I really think that it would be excellent if a Piggs contingent showed up.

BTW, if you aren’t aware of it, I believe the show producers have arranged a deal with a bus line to provide relatively inexpensive transportation. Of course, 40 hours on a bus from Cali to DC might just be enough for people to totally revise their political views, or even give up their citizenship. So, beware.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Shadowfax] ….When people can’t converse and exchange ideas–ideas that may be different from those that you initially believe in–how will we ever learn anything new? ….[/quote]

Exactly. Hit the nail squarely on the head, Shadow. Sad, isn’t it?

[quote=Shadowfax]…. I personally am open to any intelligent argument and have often changed how I think about things if I hear the ring of truth, reasonableness, logic and sanity. I’m a free thinker like that.[/quote]

Enjoy it while it lasts. That’s why I’m thankful for Piggs. Enables me to fulfill my fantasy of ever-evolving and often exciting idea exchange, with a side order of piquant and, at times, ribald humor.

[quote=Shadowfax]….So, anyone going to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC?[/quote]

I’ll be there, but I live there, so, admittedly, it will be much more accessible for me. But I really think that it would be excellent if a Piggs contingent showed up.

BTW, if you aren’t aware of it, I believe the show producers have arranged a deal with a bus line to provide relatively inexpensive transportation. Of course, 40 hours on a bus from Cali to DC might just be enough for people to totally revise their political views, or even give up their citizenship. So, beware.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Shadowfax] ….When people can’t converse and exchange ideas–ideas that may be different from those that you initially believe in–how will we ever learn anything new? ….[/quote]

Exactly. Hit the nail squarely on the head, Shadow. Sad, isn’t it?

[quote=Shadowfax]…. I personally am open to any intelligent argument and have often changed how I think about things if I hear the ring of truth, reasonableness, logic and sanity. I’m a free thinker like that.[/quote]

Enjoy it while it lasts. That’s why I’m thankful for Piggs. Enables me to fulfill my fantasy of ever-evolving and often exciting idea exchange, with a side order of piquant and, at times, ribald humor.

[quote=Shadowfax]….So, anyone going to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC?[/quote]

I’ll be there, but I live there, so, admittedly, it will be much more accessible for me. But I really think that it would be excellent if a Piggs contingent showed up.

BTW, if you aren’t aware of it, I believe the show producers have arranged a deal with a bus line to provide relatively inexpensive transportation. Of course, 40 hours on a bus from Cali to DC might just be enough for people to totally revise their political views, or even give up their citizenship. So, beware.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Shadowfax] ….When people can’t converse and exchange ideas–ideas that may be different from those that you initially believe in–how will we ever learn anything new? ….[/quote]

Exactly. Hit the nail squarely on the head, Shadow. Sad, isn’t it?

[quote=Shadowfax]…. I personally am open to any intelligent argument and have often changed how I think about things if I hear the ring of truth, reasonableness, logic and sanity. I’m a free thinker like that.[/quote]

Enjoy it while it lasts. That’s why I’m thankful for Piggs. Enables me to fulfill my fantasy of ever-evolving and often exciting idea exchange, with a side order of piquant and, at times, ribald humor.

[quote=Shadowfax]….So, anyone going to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC?[/quote]

I’ll be there, but I live there, so, admittedly, it will be much more accessible for me. But I really think that it would be excellent if a Piggs contingent showed up.

BTW, if you aren’t aware of it, I believe the show producers have arranged a deal with a bus line to provide relatively inexpensive transportation. Of course, 40 hours on a bus from Cali to DC might just be enough for people to totally revise their political views, or even give up their citizenship. So, beware.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Shadowfax] ….When people can’t converse and exchange ideas–ideas that may be different from those that you initially believe in–how will we ever learn anything new? ….[/quote]

Exactly. Hit the nail squarely on the head, Shadow. Sad, isn’t it?

[quote=Shadowfax]…. I personally am open to any intelligent argument and have often changed how I think about things if I hear the ring of truth, reasonableness, logic and sanity. I’m a free thinker like that.[/quote]

Enjoy it while it lasts. That’s why I’m thankful for Piggs. Enables me to fulfill my fantasy of ever-evolving and often exciting idea exchange, with a side order of piquant and, at times, ribald humor.

[quote=Shadowfax]….So, anyone going to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC?[/quote]

I’ll be there, but I live there, so, admittedly, it will be much more accessible for me. But I really think that it would be excellent if a Piggs contingent showed up.

BTW, if you aren’t aware of it, I believe the show producers have arranged a deal with a bus line to provide relatively inexpensive transportation. Of course, 40 hours on a bus from Cali to DC might just be enough for people to totally revise their political views, or even give up their citizenship. So, beware.

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