OMG – Someone please control Christine O’donnell

[gandalf]

That is excellent, SK.

[jstoesz]

Fair enough, about how our money goes into the general fund, and we don’t get to choose which services we want to pay for and ones we don’t. I totally understand and agree. This is kind of elemental to a society.

I am arguing for choice and freedom in many areas, as opposed to a one size fits all public school system. I think there is a place for creationism in some schools, but certainly not in place of evolution. And certainly not in every school (whichever school your child attends)…

You are right that thankfully we can vote for things. I just wish we had a little more freedom in where and what our children learn. I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. You can not compartmentalize learning into distinct subjects. A belief in God (or disbelief) affects and influences every part of a person. If you read Dostoevsky, you must talk about morality, but morality can not be discussed without bringing up God. Similarly, how do you talk about the creation of the universe without at least brushing on the subject of who made matter, or how the physical laws came to be? Hawking may disagree with me.

I am not advocating one religion over another, I am just stating that there is a place for Religion in the upbringing of our children. Children spend a large percentage of their lives in school, I would like the school that I choose to reflect the values that I hold. Maybe that is why I am going to be spending my after tax dollars on private schools…

[jstoesz]

Fair enough, about how our money goes into the general fund, and we don’t get to choose which services we want to pay for and ones we don’t. I totally understand and agree. This is kind of elemental to a society.

I am arguing for choice and freedom in many areas, as opposed to a one size fits all public school system. I think there is a place for creationism in some schools, but certainly not in place of evolution. And certainly not in every school (whichever school your child attends)…

You are right that thankfully we can vote for things. I just wish we had a little more freedom in where and what our children learn. I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. You can not compartmentalize learning into distinct subjects. A belief in God (or disbelief) affects and influences every part of a person. If you read Dostoevsky, you must talk about morality, but morality can not be discussed without bringing up God. Similarly, how do you talk about the creation of the universe without at least brushing on the subject of who made matter, or how the physical laws came to be? Hawking may disagree with me.

I am not advocating one religion over another, I am just stating that there is a place for Religion in the upbringing of our children. Children spend a large percentage of their lives in school, I would like the school that I choose to reflect the values that I hold. Maybe that is why I am going to be spending my after tax dollars on private schools…

[jstoesz]

Fair enough, about how our money goes into the general fund, and we don’t get to choose which services we want to pay for and ones we don’t. I totally understand and agree. This is kind of elemental to a society.

I am arguing for choice and freedom in many areas, as opposed to a one size fits all public school system. I think there is a place for creationism in some schools, but certainly not in place of evolution. And certainly not in every school (whichever school your child attends)…

You are right that thankfully we can vote for things. I just wish we had a little more freedom in where and what our children learn. I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. You can not compartmentalize learning into distinct subjects. A belief in God (or disbelief) affects and influences every part of a person. If you read Dostoevsky, you must talk about morality, but morality can not be discussed without bringing up God. Similarly, how do you talk about the creation of the universe without at least brushing on the subject of who made matter, or how the physical laws came to be? Hawking may disagree with me.

I am not advocating one religion over another, I am just stating that there is a place for Religion in the upbringing of our children. Children spend a large percentage of their lives in school, I would like the school that I choose to reflect the values that I hold. Maybe that is why I am going to be spending my after tax dollars on private schools…

[jstoesz]

Fair enough, about how our money goes into the general fund, and we don’t get to choose which services we want to pay for and ones we don’t. I totally understand and agree. This is kind of elemental to a society.

I am arguing for choice and freedom in many areas, as opposed to a one size fits all public school system. I think there is a place for creationism in some schools, but certainly not in place of evolution. And certainly not in every school (whichever school your child attends)…

You are right that thankfully we can vote for things. I just wish we had a little more freedom in where and what our children learn. I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. You can not compartmentalize learning into distinct subjects. A belief in God (or disbelief) affects and influences every part of a person. If you read Dostoevsky, you must talk about morality, but morality can not be discussed without bringing up God. Similarly, how do you talk about the creation of the universe without at least brushing on the subject of who made matter, or how the physical laws came to be? Hawking may disagree with me.

I am not advocating one religion over another, I am just stating that there is a place for Religion in the upbringing of our children. Children spend a large percentage of their lives in school, I would like the school that I choose to reflect the values that I hold. Maybe that is why I am going to be spending my after tax dollars on private schools…

[jstoesz]

Fair enough, about how our money goes into the general fund, and we don’t get to choose which services we want to pay for and ones we don’t. I totally understand and agree. This is kind of elemental to a society.

I am arguing for choice and freedom in many areas, as opposed to a one size fits all public school system. I think there is a place for creationism in some schools, but certainly not in place of evolution. And certainly not in every school (whichever school your child attends)…

You are right that thankfully we can vote for things. I just wish we had a little more freedom in where and what our children learn. I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. You can not compartmentalize learning into distinct subjects. A belief in God (or disbelief) affects and influences every part of a person. If you read Dostoevsky, you must talk about morality, but morality can not be discussed without bringing up God. Similarly, how do you talk about the creation of the universe without at least brushing on the subject of who made matter, or how the physical laws came to be? Hawking may disagree with me.

I am not advocating one religion over another, I am just stating that there is a place for Religion in the upbringing of our children. Children spend a large percentage of their lives in school, I would like the school that I choose to reflect the values that I hold. Maybe that is why I am going to be spending my after tax dollars on private schools…

[Anonymous]

[quote]That’s the point of the separation. There is no government coercion.[/quote]

Well said.

Public schools don’t teach secular humanism. That’s a completely unfounded claim by those that want to argue that, since “religion” is already being taught in schools, it’s OK to force their own religion on others in schools as well. This is a bogus notion. No one is forcing any religion on our kids in school.

I’m a Christian, attend church regularly, and pray with my family (at home.) But I don’t want *any* religion, even my own, to be taught in schools. It’s a compromise we make to live in a civilized society – one that works well.

Many people send children to public schools and still raise them with religious faith. It’s just not that hard to do. Those that claim otherwise just want the world to bend to accommodate their personal wishes.

BTW: There are charter schools in CA that allow you to home-school your kids and receive state funding for teaching supplies. There is plenty of freedom.

[Anonymous]

[quote]That’s the point of the separation. There is no government coercion.[/quote]

Well said.

Public schools don’t teach secular humanism. That’s a completely unfounded claim by those that want to argue that, since “religion” is already being taught in schools, it’s OK to force their own religion on others in schools as well. This is a bogus notion. No one is forcing any religion on our kids in school.

I’m a Christian, attend church regularly, and pray with my family (at home.) But I don’t want *any* religion, even my own, to be taught in schools. It’s a compromise we make to live in a civilized society – one that works well.

Many people send children to public schools and still raise them with religious faith. It’s just not that hard to do. Those that claim otherwise just want the world to bend to accommodate their personal wishes.

BTW: There are charter schools in CA that allow you to home-school your kids and receive state funding for teaching supplies. There is plenty of freedom.

[Anonymous]

[quote]That’s the point of the separation. There is no government coercion.[/quote]

Well said.

Public schools don’t teach secular humanism. That’s a completely unfounded claim by those that want to argue that, since “religion” is already being taught in schools, it’s OK to force their own religion on others in schools as well. This is a bogus notion. No one is forcing any religion on our kids in school.

I’m a Christian, attend church regularly, and pray with my family (at home.) But I don’t want *any* religion, even my own, to be taught in schools. It’s a compromise we make to live in a civilized society – one that works well.

Many people send children to public schools and still raise them with religious faith. It’s just not that hard to do. Those that claim otherwise just want the world to bend to accommodate their personal wishes.

BTW: There are charter schools in CA that allow you to home-school your kids and receive state funding for teaching supplies. There is plenty of freedom.

[Anonymous]

[quote]That’s the point of the separation. There is no government coercion.[/quote]

Well said.

Public schools don’t teach secular humanism. That’s a completely unfounded claim by those that want to argue that, since “religion” is already being taught in schools, it’s OK to force their own religion on others in schools as well. This is a bogus notion. No one is forcing any religion on our kids in school.

I’m a Christian, attend church regularly, and pray with my family (at home.) But I don’t want *any* religion, even my own, to be taught in schools. It’s a compromise we make to live in a civilized society – one that works well.

Many people send children to public schools and still raise them with religious faith. It’s just not that hard to do. Those that claim otherwise just want the world to bend to accommodate their personal wishes.

BTW: There are charter schools in CA that allow you to home-school your kids and receive state funding for teaching supplies. There is plenty of freedom.

[Anonymous]

[quote]That’s the point of the separation. There is no government coercion.[/quote]

Well said.

Public schools don’t teach secular humanism. That’s a completely unfounded claim by those that want to argue that, since “religion” is already being taught in schools, it’s OK to force their own religion on others in schools as well. This is a bogus notion. No one is forcing any religion on our kids in school.

I’m a Christian, attend church regularly, and pray with my family (at home.) But I don’t want *any* religion, even my own, to be taught in schools. It’s a compromise we make to live in a civilized society – one that works well.

Many people send children to public schools and still raise them with religious faith. It’s just not that hard to do. Those that claim otherwise just want the world to bend to accommodate their personal wishes.

BTW: There are charter schools in CA that allow you to home-school your kids and receive state funding for teaching supplies. There is plenty of freedom.

[ucodegen]

[quote jstoesz]I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. [/quote]
I have mixed impressions of High Tech High. Some of their teachers have really impressive resumes, but they have some unusual ‘school policies’. For example, if a person is gifted in math, High Tech High does not allow them to take an accelerated program – or test into the next class of the sequence. The result can be a bored student, who is bored while taking the favorite or best subjects.

The High School I went to allowed you to take courses like you do in college. If you want to test into the next in the sequence, no problem. If you wanted to use summer school to accelerate, no problem.

Considering High Tech High’s API Base score of 797, and rank of 8, I’m not too impressed. The public high school I went to has a current API base score of 905 and rank of 10. Even the high school I went to is not top API rated which comes in with a Base API of 988. By the way, Poway High’s API Base is 850, LaJolla 831.

I would be careful of ‘branching out’ the scholastics beyond the fundamentals. One needs to make sure the fundamentals are not lost in the process.

[ucodegen]

[quote jstoesz]I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. [/quote]
I have mixed impressions of High Tech High. Some of their teachers have really impressive resumes, but they have some unusual ‘school policies’. For example, if a person is gifted in math, High Tech High does not allow them to take an accelerated program – or test into the next class of the sequence. The result can be a bored student, who is bored while taking the favorite or best subjects.

The High School I went to allowed you to take courses like you do in college. If you want to test into the next in the sequence, no problem. If you wanted to use summer school to accelerate, no problem.

Considering High Tech High’s API Base score of 797, and rank of 8, I’m not too impressed. The public high school I went to has a current API base score of 905 and rank of 10. Even the high school I went to is not top API rated which comes in with a Base API of 988. By the way, Poway High’s API Base is 850, LaJolla 831.

I would be careful of ‘branching out’ the scholastics beyond the fundamentals. One needs to make sure the fundamentals are not lost in the process.

[ucodegen]

[quote jstoesz]I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. [/quote]
I have mixed impressions of High Tech High. Some of their teachers have really impressive resumes, but they have some unusual ‘school policies’. For example, if a person is gifted in math, High Tech High does not allow them to take an accelerated program – or test into the next class of the sequence. The result can be a bored student, who is bored while taking the favorite or best subjects.

The High School I went to allowed you to take courses like you do in college. If you want to test into the next in the sequence, no problem. If you wanted to use summer school to accelerate, no problem.

Considering High Tech High’s API Base score of 797, and rank of 8, I’m not too impressed. The public high school I went to has a current API base score of 905 and rank of 10. Even the high school I went to is not top API rated which comes in with a Base API of 988. By the way, Poway High’s API Base is 850, LaJolla 831.

I would be careful of ‘branching out’ the scholastics beyond the fundamentals. One needs to make sure the fundamentals are not lost in the process.

[ucodegen]

[quote jstoesz]I see the charter school movement as a big improvement with schools like High Tech High and middle school in Pt. Loma. I would like to see more of that sort of thing, but have it branch out into more than just science, and art, but philosophy and religion. [/quote]
I have mixed impressions of High Tech High. Some of their teachers have really impressive resumes, but they have some unusual ‘school policies’. For example, if a person is gifted in math, High Tech High does not allow them to take an accelerated program – or test into the next class of the sequence. The result can be a bored student, who is bored while taking the favorite or best subjects.

The High School I went to allowed you to take courses like you do in college. If you want to test into the next in the sequence, no problem. If you wanted to use summer school to accelerate, no problem.

Considering High Tech High’s API Base score of 797, and rank of 8, I’m not too impressed. The public high school I went to has a current API base score of 905 and rank of 10. Even the high school I went to is not top API rated which comes in with a Base API of 988. By the way, Poway High’s API Base is 850, LaJolla 831.

I would be careful of ‘branching out’ the scholastics beyond the fundamentals. One needs to make sure the fundamentals are not lost in the process.

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