OMG – Someone please control Christine O’donnell

[jstoesz]

All of this follows to the elemental problem with public schools…They are a one size fits all legislative control arm from Washington. In one of the most intimate aspects of our lives. There are no choices (I guess they are limited with charter schools and the financially prohibitive private schools). If people can go where they choose, this debate we are having is moot. The solution to this problem is freedom not more regulation. I am sure you want your child to go to a secular humanist school. I have no problem with that. But should you have a problem if I want to send my kid to a Muslim school? Why is your Religon more protected than mine? The absence of a religion is still a religion.

[afx114]

In that case, I bestow upon you the final summary of this thread in film form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434

BTW Dan, you need to get with it. “Jump the shark” has jumped the shark, the new term of choice is “nuked the fridge.”

[afx114]

In that case, I bestow upon you the final summary of this thread in film form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434

BTW Dan, you need to get with it. “Jump the shark” has jumped the shark, the new term of choice is “nuked the fridge.”

[afx114]

In that case, I bestow upon you the final summary of this thread in film form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434

BTW Dan, you need to get with it. “Jump the shark” has jumped the shark, the new term of choice is “nuked the fridge.”

[afx114]

In that case, I bestow upon you the final summary of this thread in film form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434

BTW Dan, you need to get with it. “Jump the shark” has jumped the shark, the new term of choice is “nuked the fridge.”

[afx114]

In that case, I bestow upon you the final summary of this thread in film form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434

BTW Dan, you need to get with it. “Jump the shark” has jumped the shark, the new term of choice is “nuked the fridge.”

[jstoesz]

[quote]government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?[/quote]

Are non religious institutions not afforded the same tax exempt status? How is this being preferential? would you propose that all religious based charities be excluded from this provision? How is that not discrimination against religion?

Furthermore, why is our tax code so freaking convoluted that this is an issue? If the federal government wasn’t in the business of legislating every aspect of our lives through tax penalties and subsidies we would not need this exemption. Lets get rid of this carve out and every other.

All of these problems stem from the this…

[jstoesz]

[quote]government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?[/quote]

Are non religious institutions not afforded the same tax exempt status? How is this being preferential? would you propose that all religious based charities be excluded from this provision? How is that not discrimination against religion?

Furthermore, why is our tax code so freaking convoluted that this is an issue? If the federal government wasn’t in the business of legislating every aspect of our lives through tax penalties and subsidies we would not need this exemption. Lets get rid of this carve out and every other.

All of these problems stem from the this…

[jstoesz]

[quote]government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?[/quote]

Are non religious institutions not afforded the same tax exempt status? How is this being preferential? would you propose that all religious based charities be excluded from this provision? How is that not discrimination against religion?

Furthermore, why is our tax code so freaking convoluted that this is an issue? If the federal government wasn’t in the business of legislating every aspect of our lives through tax penalties and subsidies we would not need this exemption. Lets get rid of this carve out and every other.

All of these problems stem from the this…

[jstoesz]

[quote]government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?[/quote]

Are non religious institutions not afforded the same tax exempt status? How is this being preferential? would you propose that all religious based charities be excluded from this provision? How is that not discrimination against religion?

Furthermore, why is our tax code so freaking convoluted that this is an issue? If the federal government wasn’t in the business of legislating every aspect of our lives through tax penalties and subsidies we would not need this exemption. Lets get rid of this carve out and every other.

All of these problems stem from the this…

[jstoesz]

[quote]government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?[/quote]

Are non religious institutions not afforded the same tax exempt status? How is this being preferential? would you propose that all religious based charities be excluded from this provision? How is that not discrimination against religion?

Furthermore, why is our tax code so freaking convoluted that this is an issue? If the federal government wasn’t in the business of legislating every aspect of our lives through tax penalties and subsidies we would not need this exemption. Lets get rid of this carve out and every other.

All of these problems stem from the this…

[zk]

[quote=jstoesz] Why is your Religon more protected than mine?.[/quote]

I think the point that is missing from this discussion (I don’t know for sure, I haven’t read the whole thing) is:

The problem isn’t that creationism is taught or mentioned in school. The problem is that some want creationism taught as science. Creationism is not science, it is religion. If it’s taught as religion (as in, some people believe in creationism, some people belive in apotamkin, some people believe in the tooth fairy. These are all faith-based beliefs), then I think there’d be a lot less opposition. Especially if it were part of a program to educate children on all the religions of the world.

To teach creationism as science is to misinform our children, and I can’t see how that would be a good idea.

[zk]

[quote=jstoesz] Why is your Religon more protected than mine?.[/quote]

I think the point that is missing from this discussion (I don’t know for sure, I haven’t read the whole thing) is:

The problem isn’t that creationism is taught or mentioned in school. The problem is that some want creationism taught as science. Creationism is not science, it is religion. If it’s taught as religion (as in, some people believe in creationism, some people belive in apotamkin, some people believe in the tooth fairy. These are all faith-based beliefs), then I think there’d be a lot less opposition. Especially if it were part of a program to educate children on all the religions of the world.

To teach creationism as science is to misinform our children, and I can’t see how that would be a good idea.

[zk]

[quote=jstoesz] Why is your Religon more protected than mine?.[/quote]

I think the point that is missing from this discussion (I don’t know for sure, I haven’t read the whole thing) is:

The problem isn’t that creationism is taught or mentioned in school. The problem is that some want creationism taught as science. Creationism is not science, it is religion. If it’s taught as religion (as in, some people believe in creationism, some people belive in apotamkin, some people believe in the tooth fairy. These are all faith-based beliefs), then I think there’d be a lot less opposition. Especially if it were part of a program to educate children on all the religions of the world.

To teach creationism as science is to misinform our children, and I can’t see how that would be a good idea.

[zk]

[quote=jstoesz] Why is your Religon more protected than mine?.[/quote]

I think the point that is missing from this discussion (I don’t know for sure, I haven’t read the whole thing) is:

The problem isn’t that creationism is taught or mentioned in school. The problem is that some want creationism taught as science. Creationism is not science, it is religion. If it’s taught as religion (as in, some people believe in creationism, some people belive in apotamkin, some people believe in the tooth fairy. These are all faith-based beliefs), then I think there’d be a lot less opposition. Especially if it were part of a program to educate children on all the religions of the world.

To teach creationism as science is to misinform our children, and I can’t see how that would be a good idea.

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