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[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CA renter]

As someone who also grew up in the 70s, it saddens me to see how our kids are forced to grow up these days. Back in the day, we left the house after breakfast and didn’t return home until the street lights came on. All day long, we’d be riding our bikes, climing trees, building forts (no land left for that anymore!), etc. with all the other kids in the neighborhood, with nary a parent to be found anywhere. If we watched TV, we had to get up to turn the dial on the TV! Remember that? 😉 I think our generation was one of the last “lucky” generations where we still had some freedoms (no bike helmets, we could ride in the back of a pickup truck and watch the stars above us, no electronic leashes, etc.). Great times! :)[/quote]

CA: I was limited to one hour of TV per WEEK! No lie. My dad allowed me to watch all the news and sports I wanted, but I was only allowed one hour of what he called “shows” and I had to let him know in advance what I planned on watching (“Battlestar Galactica” was usually my choice).

When I inevitably bitched about this totalitarian restriction of my viewing rights, he’d tell me one of two things: “Go outside and shoot hoops/throw the football around/play catch with one of your friends” or “go read”. Cursing under my breath, I usually did do one of those two things.

As a result, I became a voracious reader and I also spent a lot of time with my friends out-of-doors and doing the various things you mentioned, which all involved physical exercise and using our imaginations.

I remember my summers and my mom booting me out of the house right after breakfast with the admonition to come home before it got dark. I’d hop on my bike and then spend the next 8 – 9 hours with my buddies trying to find new and inventive ways to sprain various joints, draw blood or fall from things we shouldn’t have been climbing in the first place.

Amazingly, we survived. Not so amazingly, we also had a blast. When I look back on my summers, and my years in Little League and Pop Warner, it never fails to bring a smile to my face. I was tanned brown as a berry and wouldn’t be in that sort of physical condition until my days in high school playing football or my days in the Army following.

We didn’t worry about being kidnapped, our days weren’t controlled by frenetic soccer moms who had every minute of our lives scheduled and our activities were those of our own invention. I didn’t discover the mall until about the same time I discovered girls and realized that’s where they hung out.

You’re right about one thing: Those were some damn good times!

[markzuber]

I have experienced for over 20 years inexpensive socialized medical system. It works well. I can’t believe how expensive is US Medical system. I have a private insurance. My son recently injured has leg and he was prescribed a plastic boot to wear for few weeks. The boot cost over $400. We didn’t have choice but to pay for it even though I found the same boot on the internet for about $100. I am not a democrat but will likely become one after listening to republicans passing terrifying stories about socialize med system. They must by paid by doctors here to support existing US med System.

[markzuber]

I have experienced for over 20 years inexpensive socialized medical system. It works well. I can’t believe how expensive is US Medical system. I have a private insurance. My son recently injured has leg and he was prescribed a plastic boot to wear for few weeks. The boot cost over $400. We didn’t have choice but to pay for it even though I found the same boot on the internet for about $100. I am not a democrat but will likely become one after listening to republicans passing terrifying stories about socialize med system. They must by paid by doctors here to support existing US med System.

[markzuber]

I have experienced for over 20 years inexpensive socialized medical system. It works well. I can’t believe how expensive is US Medical system. I have a private insurance. My son recently injured has leg and he was prescribed a plastic boot to wear for few weeks. The boot cost over $400. We didn’t have choice but to pay for it even though I found the same boot on the internet for about $100. I am not a democrat but will likely become one after listening to republicans passing terrifying stories about socialize med system. They must by paid by doctors here to support existing US med System.

[markzuber]

I have experienced for over 20 years inexpensive socialized medical system. It works well. I can’t believe how expensive is US Medical system. I have a private insurance. My son recently injured has leg and he was prescribed a plastic boot to wear for few weeks. The boot cost over $400. We didn’t have choice but to pay for it even though I found the same boot on the internet for about $100. I am not a democrat but will likely become one after listening to republicans passing terrifying stories about socialize med system. They must by paid by doctors here to support existing US med System.

[markzuber]

I have experienced for over 20 years inexpensive socialized medical system. It works well. I can’t believe how expensive is US Medical system. I have a private insurance. My son recently injured has leg and he was prescribed a plastic boot to wear for few weeks. The boot cost over $400. We didn’t have choice but to pay for it even though I found the same boot on the internet for about $100. I am not a democrat but will likely become one after listening to republicans passing terrifying stories about socialize med system. They must by paid by doctors here to support existing US med System.

[Zeitgeist]

Got cancer? U.S. V. Europe survival rates:
New York Post- UK’s Bad Medicine: Why US Has Better Odds vs. Cancer:
Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom, where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

In the ad, now running in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: “I had prostate cancer five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44 percent under socialized medicine.” He drew those statistics from an article I wrote for the summer 2007 issue of City Journal.

Healthcare To Die For in Britain?
by Ralph R. Reiland (February 26, 2005)

In “Die in Britain, survive in U.S.,” the cover article of the February 2005 issue of The Spectator, a British magazine, James Bartholomew details the downside of Britain’s universal healthcare system.

Among women with breast cancer, for example, there’s a 46 percent chance of dying from it in Britain, versus a 25 percent chance in the United States. “Britain has one of worst survival rates in the advanced world,” writes Bartholomew, “and America has the best.”

If you’re a man diagnosed with prostate cancer, you have a 57 percent chance of it killing you in Britain. In the United States, the chance of dying drops to 19 percent. Again, reports Bartholomew, “Britain is at the bottom of the class and America is at the top.”

Explains Bartolomew: “That is why those who are rich enough often go to America, leaving behind even private British healthcare.” The reason isn’t that we sue more in America, and scare doctors into efficiency, or that our medical schools are better. It’s more simple than that. “In America, you are more likely to be treated,” writes Bartholomew, “and going back a stage further, you are more likely to get the diagnostic tests which lead to better treatment.”
http://www.capmag.com/author.asp?ID=221

[Zeitgeist]

Got cancer? U.S. V. Europe survival rates:
New York Post- UK’s Bad Medicine: Why US Has Better Odds vs. Cancer:
Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom, where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

In the ad, now running in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: “I had prostate cancer five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44 percent under socialized medicine.” He drew those statistics from an article I wrote for the summer 2007 issue of City Journal.

Healthcare To Die For in Britain?
by Ralph R. Reiland (February 26, 2005)

In “Die in Britain, survive in U.S.,” the cover article of the February 2005 issue of The Spectator, a British magazine, James Bartholomew details the downside of Britain’s universal healthcare system.

Among women with breast cancer, for example, there’s a 46 percent chance of dying from it in Britain, versus a 25 percent chance in the United States. “Britain has one of worst survival rates in the advanced world,” writes Bartholomew, “and America has the best.”

If you’re a man diagnosed with prostate cancer, you have a 57 percent chance of it killing you in Britain. In the United States, the chance of dying drops to 19 percent. Again, reports Bartholomew, “Britain is at the bottom of the class and America is at the top.”

Explains Bartolomew: “That is why those who are rich enough often go to America, leaving behind even private British healthcare.” The reason isn’t that we sue more in America, and scare doctors into efficiency, or that our medical schools are better. It’s more simple than that. “In America, you are more likely to be treated,” writes Bartholomew, “and going back a stage further, you are more likely to get the diagnostic tests which lead to better treatment.”
http://www.capmag.com/author.asp?ID=221

[Zeitgeist]

Got cancer? U.S. V. Europe survival rates:
New York Post- UK’s Bad Medicine: Why US Has Better Odds vs. Cancer:
Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom, where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

In the ad, now running in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: “I had prostate cancer five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44 percent under socialized medicine.” He drew those statistics from an article I wrote for the summer 2007 issue of City Journal.

Healthcare To Die For in Britain?
by Ralph R. Reiland (February 26, 2005)

In “Die in Britain, survive in U.S.,” the cover article of the February 2005 issue of The Spectator, a British magazine, James Bartholomew details the downside of Britain’s universal healthcare system.

Among women with breast cancer, for example, there’s a 46 percent chance of dying from it in Britain, versus a 25 percent chance in the United States. “Britain has one of worst survival rates in the advanced world,” writes Bartholomew, “and America has the best.”

If you’re a man diagnosed with prostate cancer, you have a 57 percent chance of it killing you in Britain. In the United States, the chance of dying drops to 19 percent. Again, reports Bartholomew, “Britain is at the bottom of the class and America is at the top.”

Explains Bartolomew: “That is why those who are rich enough often go to America, leaving behind even private British healthcare.” The reason isn’t that we sue more in America, and scare doctors into efficiency, or that our medical schools are better. It’s more simple than that. “In America, you are more likely to be treated,” writes Bartholomew, “and going back a stage further, you are more likely to get the diagnostic tests which lead to better treatment.”
http://www.capmag.com/author.asp?ID=221

[Zeitgeist]

Got cancer? U.S. V. Europe survival rates:
New York Post- UK’s Bad Medicine: Why US Has Better Odds vs. Cancer:
Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom, where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

In the ad, now running in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: “I had prostate cancer five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44 percent under socialized medicine.” He drew those statistics from an article I wrote for the summer 2007 issue of City Journal.

Healthcare To Die For in Britain?
by Ralph R. Reiland (February 26, 2005)

In “Die in Britain, survive in U.S.,” the cover article of the February 2005 issue of The Spectator, a British magazine, James Bartholomew details the downside of Britain’s universal healthcare system.

Among women with breast cancer, for example, there’s a 46 percent chance of dying from it in Britain, versus a 25 percent chance in the United States. “Britain has one of worst survival rates in the advanced world,” writes Bartholomew, “and America has the best.”

If you’re a man diagnosed with prostate cancer, you have a 57 percent chance of it killing you in Britain. In the United States, the chance of dying drops to 19 percent. Again, reports Bartholomew, “Britain is at the bottom of the class and America is at the top.”

Explains Bartolomew: “That is why those who are rich enough often go to America, leaving behind even private British healthcare.” The reason isn’t that we sue more in America, and scare doctors into efficiency, or that our medical schools are better. It’s more simple than that. “In America, you are more likely to be treated,” writes Bartholomew, “and going back a stage further, you are more likely to get the diagnostic tests which lead to better treatment.”
http://www.capmag.com/author.asp?ID=221

[Zeitgeist]

Got cancer? U.S. V. Europe survival rates:
New York Post- UK’s Bad Medicine: Why US Has Better Odds vs. Cancer:
Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom, where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

In the ad, now running in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: “I had prostate cancer five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44 percent under socialized medicine.” He drew those statistics from an article I wrote for the summer 2007 issue of City Journal.

Healthcare To Die For in Britain?
by Ralph R. Reiland (February 26, 2005)

In “Die in Britain, survive in U.S.,” the cover article of the February 2005 issue of The Spectator, a British magazine, James Bartholomew details the downside of Britain’s universal healthcare system.

Among women with breast cancer, for example, there’s a 46 percent chance of dying from it in Britain, versus a 25 percent chance in the United States. “Britain has one of worst survival rates in the advanced world,” writes Bartholomew, “and America has the best.”

If you’re a man diagnosed with prostate cancer, you have a 57 percent chance of it killing you in Britain. In the United States, the chance of dying drops to 19 percent. Again, reports Bartholomew, “Britain is at the bottom of the class and America is at the top.”

Explains Bartolomew: “That is why those who are rich enough often go to America, leaving behind even private British healthcare.” The reason isn’t that we sue more in America, and scare doctors into efficiency, or that our medical schools are better. It’s more simple than that. “In America, you are more likely to be treated,” writes Bartholomew, “and going back a stage further, you are more likely to get the diagnostic tests which lead to better treatment.”
http://www.capmag.com/author.asp?ID=221

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

[/quote]

Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

[/quote]

Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

[/quote]

Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.

[/quote]

Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.

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