ObamaCare…coming soon

[kev374]

People don’t take personal responsibility for their health. It’s the same entitlement attitude that is prevelant now… they want to do anything that they please and want government to take care of them if there are negative consequences to their actions.

How many Americans are working out at least 30 mins a day? How many are avoiding a pattern of eating unhealthy foods or moderating their intake of alcohol? These days I even seen children 10 or 11 years old obese due to irresponsible and careless parents.

Unfortunately the system just cannot handle so many people getting sick, it is just not possible. How is it that in the 50s and 60s we did not have a health crisis yet we do have one now despite medical technology improving by leaps and bounds? Something does not add up here.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN]Really? 56%? You must be making some serious dough. $10k in health insurance? My effective tax rate is well below 35% and I’m paying ~2500-3500/year in health insurance for a family of 3 w/ $10 co-pay & excellent coverage.[/quote]

You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN]Really? 56%? You must be making some serious dough. $10k in health insurance? My effective tax rate is well below 35% and I’m paying ~2500-3500/year in health insurance for a family of 3 w/ $10 co-pay & excellent coverage.[/quote]

You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN]Really? 56%? You must be making some serious dough. $10k in health insurance? My effective tax rate is well below 35% and I’m paying ~2500-3500/year in health insurance for a family of 3 w/ $10 co-pay & excellent coverage.[/quote]

You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN]Really? 56%? You must be making some serious dough. $10k in health insurance? My effective tax rate is well below 35% and I’m paying ~2500-3500/year in health insurance for a family of 3 w/ $10 co-pay & excellent coverage.[/quote]

You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN]Really? 56%? You must be making some serious dough. $10k in health insurance? My effective tax rate is well below 35% and I’m paying ~2500-3500/year in health insurance for a family of 3 w/ $10 co-pay & excellent coverage.[/quote]

You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.

[an]

[quote=SK in CV]
You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.[/quote]
Of course my employer pays a good portion of the total insurance cost. How many people actually pay for all of their insurance cost? You’re right, I don’t count that into the cost of insurance, since I never have to pay for it (as long as I’m an employee and not an employer). I just hope the government doesn’t start taxing me because my employer gave me good benefits.

[an]

[quote=SK in CV]
You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.[/quote]
Of course my employer pays a good portion of the total insurance cost. How many people actually pay for all of their insurance cost? You’re right, I don’t count that into the cost of insurance, since I never have to pay for it (as long as I’m an employee and not an employer). I just hope the government doesn’t start taxing me because my employer gave me good benefits.

[an]

[quote=SK in CV]
You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.[/quote]
Of course my employer pays a good portion of the total insurance cost. How many people actually pay for all of their insurance cost? You’re right, I don’t count that into the cost of insurance, since I never have to pay for it (as long as I’m an employee and not an employer). I just hope the government doesn’t start taxing me because my employer gave me good benefits.

[an]

[quote=SK in CV]
You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.[/quote]
Of course my employer pays a good portion of the total insurance cost. How many people actually pay for all of their insurance cost? You’re right, I don’t count that into the cost of insurance, since I never have to pay for it (as long as I’m an employee and not an employer). I just hope the government doesn’t start taxing me because my employer gave me good benefits.

[an]

[quote=SK in CV]
You got a great deal on your insurance. Is your employer picking up a piece of that cost you’re not including? Aetna’s small group rate (10-50 employees) for San Diego family coverage for their $10 copay plan ranges from $1,290 a month for 30-34 year old to $1,559 per month for 50-54 year old. That’s almost $15,500 to $18,700 per year.

For their $10 copay plan with a step down in providers (as an example, Scripps Clinic doesn’t qualify), with similar benefits, the cost is $12,804 to $15,500 per year for comparable numbers.

I shopped 1/2 a dozen other insurance companies, they were the very close to the lowest I could find for similar coverage.[/quote]
Of course my employer pays a good portion of the total insurance cost. How many people actually pay for all of their insurance cost? You’re right, I don’t count that into the cost of insurance, since I never have to pay for it (as long as I’m an employee and not an employer). I just hope the government doesn’t start taxing me because my employer gave me good benefits.

[Veritas]

I think that is part of the proposal being looked at in Congress. It doesn’t mean it will not be removed, but it sure is a deal breaker for many of us. I hope a lot of things do not happen, but I usually send a lot of e-mail to Congress when it is so damaging to many taxpayers and ultimately the economy.

“Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) and others involved in talks on a health bill said Tuesday that the idea of taxing health benefits is unpopular with voters, though they stressed that it hasn’t been completely swept off the bargaining table.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124701192458308917.html

[Veritas]

I think that is part of the proposal being looked at in Congress. It doesn’t mean it will not be removed, but it sure is a deal breaker for many of us. I hope a lot of things do not happen, but I usually send a lot of e-mail to Congress when it is so damaging to many taxpayers and ultimately the economy.

“Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) and others involved in talks on a health bill said Tuesday that the idea of taxing health benefits is unpopular with voters, though they stressed that it hasn’t been completely swept off the bargaining table.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124701192458308917.html

[Veritas]

I think that is part of the proposal being looked at in Congress. It doesn’t mean it will not be removed, but it sure is a deal breaker for many of us. I hope a lot of things do not happen, but I usually send a lot of e-mail to Congress when it is so damaging to many taxpayers and ultimately the economy.

“Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) and others involved in talks on a health bill said Tuesday that the idea of taxing health benefits is unpopular with voters, though they stressed that it hasn’t been completely swept off the bargaining table.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124701192458308917.html

[Veritas]

I think that is part of the proposal being looked at in Congress. It doesn’t mean it will not be removed, but it sure is a deal breaker for many of us. I hope a lot of things do not happen, but I usually send a lot of e-mail to Congress when it is so damaging to many taxpayers and ultimately the economy.

“Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) and others involved in talks on a health bill said Tuesday that the idea of taxing health benefits is unpopular with voters, though they stressed that it hasn’t been completely swept off the bargaining table.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124701192458308917.html

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