ObamaCare…coming soon

[CA renter]

[quote=afx114]The tort reform faction seems to be making quite a fuss about 1%-2% of the problem:

“If you were to eliminate medical malpractice liability, even forgetting the negative consequences that would have for safety, accountability, and responsiveness, maybe we’d be talking about 1.5 percent of health care costs. So we’re not talking about real money. It’s small relative to the out-of-control cost of health care.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/55535/tort-reform-unlikely-to-cut-health-care-costs

All the evidence available shows that the liability “crisis” is a myth. Malpractice payments account for less than 1% of the nation’s health care costs each year. Since 1987 medical malpractice insurance costs have risen just 52% despite the fact that medical costs have increased 113%. The size of malpractice damage awards has remained steady since 1991. Adjusted for inflation, the average malpractice payment has actually decreased since then. The number of payments for malpractice judgments of $1 million or more has never exceeded one-half of one percent of the annual total number of malpractice payments dating back to 1991.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/08/tort-reform-wont-fix-healthcare-ctd-1.html

Check out this 4-part series titled The Truth About Health Care and Tort Reform:

However, we also find, in state after state, that the passage of tort reform laws does nothing to reduce overall health care costs. Health care costs and patient insurance premiums continue to increase at the same rate as before, if not faster. And the promised cost reductions from less “defensive medicine” never materialize.

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Thanks for the links, afx. This is what I’ve read elsewhere, too. Quite frankly, if they want to eliminate malpractice lawsuits, it would be more effective if they just tried to avoid making mistakes in the first place. Yes, mistakes happen, but in the medical field, processes should be put in place that reduce these mistakes so they become extremely rare. After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?

[patb]

[quote=ucodegen]yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.[/quote]

American Red Cross was selling tainted Blood and factor 7
for 3 years during the Aids crisis. Until they came up with a
fast test, they just accepted contaminated blod.

[patb]

[quote=ucodegen]yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.[/quote]

American Red Cross was selling tainted Blood and factor 7
for 3 years during the Aids crisis. Until they came up with a
fast test, they just accepted contaminated blod.

[patb]

[quote=ucodegen]yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.[/quote]

American Red Cross was selling tainted Blood and factor 7
for 3 years during the Aids crisis. Until they came up with a
fast test, they just accepted contaminated blod.

[patb]

[quote=ucodegen]yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.[/quote]

American Red Cross was selling tainted Blood and factor 7
for 3 years during the Aids crisis. Until they came up with a
fast test, they just accepted contaminated blod.

[patb]

[quote=ucodegen]yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.[/quote]

American Red Cross was selling tainted Blood and factor 7
for 3 years during the Aids crisis. Until they came up with a
fast test, they just accepted contaminated blod.

[surveyor]

[quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?

[surveyor]

[quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?

[surveyor]

[quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?

[surveyor]

[quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?

[surveyor]

[quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?

[CA renter]

[quote=surveyor][quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?[/quote]

True, but only to a certain extent. Airplanes are extremely complex, and any number of issues — some easy and some difficult to diagnose — can cause a plane to crash or malfunction.

From the medical malpractice situations I’m familiar with, the biggest problems/complaints usually involved total negligence on the part of a doctor or hospital. There is NO excuse for some of the things I’ve seen WRT medical malpractice (personal stories…I am not an attorney).

I’d bet the majority of high-cost malpractice cases involve “accidents” that were entirely preventable.

[CA renter]

[quote=surveyor][quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?[/quote]

True, but only to a certain extent. Airplanes are extremely complex, and any number of issues — some easy and some difficult to diagnose — can cause a plane to crash or malfunction.

From the medical malpractice situations I’m familiar with, the biggest problems/complaints usually involved total negligence on the part of a doctor or hospital. There is NO excuse for some of the things I’ve seen WRT medical malpractice (personal stories…I am not an attorney).

I’d bet the majority of high-cost malpractice cases involve “accidents” that were entirely preventable.

[CA renter]

[quote=surveyor][quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?[/quote]

True, but only to a certain extent. Airplanes are extremely complex, and any number of issues — some easy and some difficult to diagnose — can cause a plane to crash or malfunction.

From the medical malpractice situations I’m familiar with, the biggest problems/complaints usually involved total negligence on the part of a doctor or hospital. There is NO excuse for some of the things I’ve seen WRT medical malpractice (personal stories…I am not an attorney).

I’d bet the majority of high-cost malpractice cases involve “accidents” that were entirely preventable.

[CA renter]

[quote=surveyor][quote=CA renter]After all, why can they build and maintain large aircraft (among other things) that have a very miniscule failure rate, but for some reason, we can’t manage to do that with healthcare?[/quote]

Maybe because the human body is a totally different and much more complex system than an airplane? And that’s why you can’t even compare the two?[/quote]

True, but only to a certain extent. Airplanes are extremely complex, and any number of issues — some easy and some difficult to diagnose — can cause a plane to crash or malfunction.

From the medical malpractice situations I’m familiar with, the biggest problems/complaints usually involved total negligence on the part of a doctor or hospital. There is NO excuse for some of the things I’ve seen WRT medical malpractice (personal stories…I am not an attorney).

I’d bet the majority of high-cost malpractice cases involve “accidents” that were entirely preventable.

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