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June 14, 2011 at 6:20 PM #704617June 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM #703426scaredyclassicParticipant
i really had my hopes up that he’d do more for cycling in the US.
June 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM #703521scaredyclassicParticipanti really had my hopes up that he’d do more for cycling in the US.
June 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM #704113scaredyclassicParticipanti really had my hopes up that he’d do more for cycling in the US.
June 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM #704261scaredyclassicParticipanti really had my hopes up that he’d do more for cycling in the US.
June 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM #704622scaredyclassicParticipanti really had my hopes up that he’d do more for cycling in the US.
June 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM #703439briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Your comment above about proportional liability is akin to saying, “Yes, both Dems and Repubs set the house afire. It is now fully engulfed in flames. However, the Repubs set MORE of the house alight than the Dems”.
[/quote]Well, the party with the highest responsibility for causing the problems should be held most accountable.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
now, come 2012 he’s toast. It really is that simple and all of the talk about which party is more responsible doesn’t mean shit to those families that cannot pay their bills, or cover their mortgage, or are dealing with a primary breadwinner out of work.
[/quote]If you would indulge me a minute, and agree that Republican bear greater (or even equal) proportional responsibility for our economic problems, then how would replacing Obama with a Republican solve the financial problems of struggling families?
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We are looking catastrophe in the face and anyone not willing to confront THAT reality and have an adult conversation about saving our Goddamn country is an asshole.[/quote]Absolutely. But not all assholes are equal.
How does maligning Obama at every turn and obstructing his work fix any problem?
BTW, did you said our Goddamn country? That was un-American. Our country is God blessed, never God dammed. (just kidding).
June 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM #703535briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Your comment above about proportional liability is akin to saying, “Yes, both Dems and Repubs set the house afire. It is now fully engulfed in flames. However, the Repubs set MORE of the house alight than the Dems”.
[/quote]Well, the party with the highest responsibility for causing the problems should be held most accountable.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
now, come 2012 he’s toast. It really is that simple and all of the talk about which party is more responsible doesn’t mean shit to those families that cannot pay their bills, or cover their mortgage, or are dealing with a primary breadwinner out of work.
[/quote]If you would indulge me a minute, and agree that Republican bear greater (or even equal) proportional responsibility for our economic problems, then how would replacing Obama with a Republican solve the financial problems of struggling families?
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We are looking catastrophe in the face and anyone not willing to confront THAT reality and have an adult conversation about saving our Goddamn country is an asshole.[/quote]Absolutely. But not all assholes are equal.
How does maligning Obama at every turn and obstructing his work fix any problem?
BTW, did you said our Goddamn country? That was un-American. Our country is God blessed, never God dammed. (just kidding).
June 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM #704125briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Your comment above about proportional liability is akin to saying, “Yes, both Dems and Repubs set the house afire. It is now fully engulfed in flames. However, the Repubs set MORE of the house alight than the Dems”.
[/quote]Well, the party with the highest responsibility for causing the problems should be held most accountable.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
now, come 2012 he’s toast. It really is that simple and all of the talk about which party is more responsible doesn’t mean shit to those families that cannot pay their bills, or cover their mortgage, or are dealing with a primary breadwinner out of work.
[/quote]If you would indulge me a minute, and agree that Republican bear greater (or even equal) proportional responsibility for our economic problems, then how would replacing Obama with a Republican solve the financial problems of struggling families?
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We are looking catastrophe in the face and anyone not willing to confront THAT reality and have an adult conversation about saving our Goddamn country is an asshole.[/quote]Absolutely. But not all assholes are equal.
How does maligning Obama at every turn and obstructing his work fix any problem?
BTW, did you said our Goddamn country? That was un-American. Our country is God blessed, never God dammed. (just kidding).
June 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM #704274briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Your comment above about proportional liability is akin to saying, “Yes, both Dems and Repubs set the house afire. It is now fully engulfed in flames. However, the Repubs set MORE of the house alight than the Dems”.
[/quote]Well, the party with the highest responsibility for causing the problems should be held most accountable.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
now, come 2012 he’s toast. It really is that simple and all of the talk about which party is more responsible doesn’t mean shit to those families that cannot pay their bills, or cover their mortgage, or are dealing with a primary breadwinner out of work.
[/quote]If you would indulge me a minute, and agree that Republican bear greater (or even equal) proportional responsibility for our economic problems, then how would replacing Obama with a Republican solve the financial problems of struggling families?
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We are looking catastrophe in the face and anyone not willing to confront THAT reality and have an adult conversation about saving our Goddamn country is an asshole.[/quote]Absolutely. But not all assholes are equal.
How does maligning Obama at every turn and obstructing his work fix any problem?
BTW, did you said our Goddamn country? That was un-American. Our country is God blessed, never God dammed. (just kidding).
June 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM #704633briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Your comment above about proportional liability is akin to saying, “Yes, both Dems and Repubs set the house afire. It is now fully engulfed in flames. However, the Repubs set MORE of the house alight than the Dems”.
[/quote]Well, the party with the highest responsibility for causing the problems should be held most accountable.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
now, come 2012 he’s toast. It really is that simple and all of the talk about which party is more responsible doesn’t mean shit to those families that cannot pay their bills, or cover their mortgage, or are dealing with a primary breadwinner out of work.
[/quote]If you would indulge me a minute, and agree that Republican bear greater (or even equal) proportional responsibility for our economic problems, then how would replacing Obama with a Republican solve the financial problems of struggling families?
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We are looking catastrophe in the face and anyone not willing to confront THAT reality and have an adult conversation about saving our Goddamn country is an asshole.[/quote]Absolutely. But not all assholes are equal.
How does maligning Obama at every turn and obstructing his work fix any problem?
BTW, did you said our Goddamn country? That was un-American. Our country is God blessed, never God dammed. (just kidding).
June 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM #703454Allan from FallbrookParticipantBrian: Okay, I’ll play along, if you’ll agree to do the same.
For the sake of argument, we agree that the GOP is “proportionally” more “assholey” than the Dems, and we both agree that leaving Obama in office is the better choice (my tongue is literally about ready to burst out of my cheek, so I hope you appreciate the sacrifice).
That presupposes that Obama has a plan, correct? A plan for jobs. A plan for tax reform. A plan for mapping out a clear path forward on fiscal responsibility.
So? What are his plans? Be honest, too. No engaging in hyperbole or fanciful notions, nor any repeating of those Dem nostrums that lack any substance. Honest to God plans and policies. Lay it out for me and explain why Obama deserves a second term.
June 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM #703550Allan from FallbrookParticipantBrian: Okay, I’ll play along, if you’ll agree to do the same.
For the sake of argument, we agree that the GOP is “proportionally” more “assholey” than the Dems, and we both agree that leaving Obama in office is the better choice (my tongue is literally about ready to burst out of my cheek, so I hope you appreciate the sacrifice).
That presupposes that Obama has a plan, correct? A plan for jobs. A plan for tax reform. A plan for mapping out a clear path forward on fiscal responsibility.
So? What are his plans? Be honest, too. No engaging in hyperbole or fanciful notions, nor any repeating of those Dem nostrums that lack any substance. Honest to God plans and policies. Lay it out for me and explain why Obama deserves a second term.
June 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM #704140Allan from FallbrookParticipantBrian: Okay, I’ll play along, if you’ll agree to do the same.
For the sake of argument, we agree that the GOP is “proportionally” more “assholey” than the Dems, and we both agree that leaving Obama in office is the better choice (my tongue is literally about ready to burst out of my cheek, so I hope you appreciate the sacrifice).
That presupposes that Obama has a plan, correct? A plan for jobs. A plan for tax reform. A plan for mapping out a clear path forward on fiscal responsibility.
So? What are his plans? Be honest, too. No engaging in hyperbole or fanciful notions, nor any repeating of those Dem nostrums that lack any substance. Honest to God plans and policies. Lay it out for me and explain why Obama deserves a second term.
June 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM #704289Allan from FallbrookParticipantBrian: Okay, I’ll play along, if you’ll agree to do the same.
For the sake of argument, we agree that the GOP is “proportionally” more “assholey” than the Dems, and we both agree that leaving Obama in office is the better choice (my tongue is literally about ready to burst out of my cheek, so I hope you appreciate the sacrifice).
That presupposes that Obama has a plan, correct? A plan for jobs. A plan for tax reform. A plan for mapping out a clear path forward on fiscal responsibility.
So? What are his plans? Be honest, too. No engaging in hyperbole or fanciful notions, nor any repeating of those Dem nostrums that lack any substance. Honest to God plans and policies. Lay it out for me and explain why Obama deserves a second term.
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