NPR: “Offshore Tax Havens”

[gandalf]

American taxpayers just got screwed out of about $20 TRILLION — more than US GDP. The wealth has been transferred to Wall Street banks, transnational corporations and wealthy individuals.

Meanwhile, the tea party is upset about school teachers.

The most pathetic generation of Americans EVER.

[paramount]

[quote=permabear][quote=paramount]There are two (2) types of workers in California:
1. Gov’t Workers = Tax Takers
2. Private Sector Workers = Tax Payers
Source: John and Ken[/quote]

What about the fact that public workers pay taxes?[/quote]

I’ll try and make this really easy:

Government workers don’t really pay taxes, all they do is return a portion of the taxpayer dollars originally generated in the private sector.

Private Sector = Makers

Public Sector = Takers

“Remember, people who work for the Government don’t pay taxes, the people in the private sector pay their taxes for them, because every dollar in the Government Worker’s paycheck, came from a Private Sector Taxpayer. The next time you hear a Government Worker say “I pay my Taxes too”, tell them, “No you don’t, I do, because every dollar you have came from me.”

[paramount]

[quote=permabear][quote=paramount]There are two (2) types of workers in California:
1. Gov’t Workers = Tax Takers
2. Private Sector Workers = Tax Payers
Source: John and Ken[/quote]

What about the fact that public workers pay taxes?[/quote]

I’ll try and make this really easy:

Government workers don’t really pay taxes, all they do is return a portion of the taxpayer dollars originally generated in the private sector.

Private Sector = Makers

Public Sector = Takers

“Remember, people who work for the Government don’t pay taxes, the people in the private sector pay their taxes for them, because every dollar in the Government Worker’s paycheck, came from a Private Sector Taxpayer. The next time you hear a Government Worker say “I pay my Taxes too”, tell them, “No you don’t, I do, because every dollar you have came from me.”

[paramount]

[quote=permabear][quote=paramount]There are two (2) types of workers in California:
1. Gov’t Workers = Tax Takers
2. Private Sector Workers = Tax Payers
Source: John and Ken[/quote]

What about the fact that public workers pay taxes?[/quote]

I’ll try and make this really easy:

Government workers don’t really pay taxes, all they do is return a portion of the taxpayer dollars originally generated in the private sector.

Private Sector = Makers

Public Sector = Takers

“Remember, people who work for the Government don’t pay taxes, the people in the private sector pay their taxes for them, because every dollar in the Government Worker’s paycheck, came from a Private Sector Taxpayer. The next time you hear a Government Worker say “I pay my Taxes too”, tell them, “No you don’t, I do, because every dollar you have came from me.”

[paramount]

[quote=permabear][quote=paramount]There are two (2) types of workers in California:
1. Gov’t Workers = Tax Takers
2. Private Sector Workers = Tax Payers
Source: John and Ken[/quote]

What about the fact that public workers pay taxes?[/quote]

I’ll try and make this really easy:

Government workers don’t really pay taxes, all they do is return a portion of the taxpayer dollars originally generated in the private sector.

Private Sector = Makers

Public Sector = Takers

“Remember, people who work for the Government don’t pay taxes, the people in the private sector pay their taxes for them, because every dollar in the Government Worker’s paycheck, came from a Private Sector Taxpayer. The next time you hear a Government Worker say “I pay my Taxes too”, tell them, “No you don’t, I do, because every dollar you have came from me.”

[paramount]

[quote=permabear][quote=paramount]There are two (2) types of workers in California:
1. Gov’t Workers = Tax Takers
2. Private Sector Workers = Tax Payers
Source: John and Ken[/quote]

What about the fact that public workers pay taxes?[/quote]

I’ll try and make this really easy:

Government workers don’t really pay taxes, all they do is return a portion of the taxpayer dollars originally generated in the private sector.

Private Sector = Makers

Public Sector = Takers

“Remember, people who work for the Government don’t pay taxes, the people in the private sector pay their taxes for them, because every dollar in the Government Worker’s paycheck, came from a Private Sector Taxpayer. The next time you hear a Government Worker say “I pay my Taxes too”, tell them, “No you don’t, I do, because every dollar you have came from me.”

[briansd1]

On the topic of pensions and public employee unions, 2 things to consider:

1/ Do we want to operate by the free market?

If so, then government employees should be at-will employees. Public employees are certainly not anymore “deserving” because they work harder than private citizens who pay taxes.

We can’t have a class of government cadres who have job security, pensions and power over the people.

Under the market system, the Tea Partiers (those who show up at rallies) will have their day of reckoning. It will be too late for them.

2/ Do we want a government of the people for the people?

In that case, I would support government policies that uplift people in the public and private sectors.

The government should protect workers everywhere by making sure that they are paid decent living wages and given pensions.

The government should protect and provide opportunities to the most vulnerable amoung us first.

Right now, under our current system, how does the middle-class expect to be protected when the under-class is growing? I’m not seeing much solidarity between the middle and lower class. The two should be natural allies.

[briansd1]

On the topic of pensions and public employee unions, 2 things to consider:

1/ Do we want to operate by the free market?

If so, then government employees should be at-will employees. Public employees are certainly not anymore “deserving” because they work harder than private citizens who pay taxes.

We can’t have a class of government cadres who have job security, pensions and power over the people.

Under the market system, the Tea Partiers (those who show up at rallies) will have their day of reckoning. It will be too late for them.

2/ Do we want a government of the people for the people?

In that case, I would support government policies that uplift people in the public and private sectors.

The government should protect workers everywhere by making sure that they are paid decent living wages and given pensions.

The government should protect and provide opportunities to the most vulnerable amoung us first.

Right now, under our current system, how does the middle-class expect to be protected when the under-class is growing? I’m not seeing much solidarity between the middle and lower class. The two should be natural allies.

[briansd1]

On the topic of pensions and public employee unions, 2 things to consider:

1/ Do we want to operate by the free market?

If so, then government employees should be at-will employees. Public employees are certainly not anymore “deserving” because they work harder than private citizens who pay taxes.

We can’t have a class of government cadres who have job security, pensions and power over the people.

Under the market system, the Tea Partiers (those who show up at rallies) will have their day of reckoning. It will be too late for them.

2/ Do we want a government of the people for the people?

In that case, I would support government policies that uplift people in the public and private sectors.

The government should protect workers everywhere by making sure that they are paid decent living wages and given pensions.

The government should protect and provide opportunities to the most vulnerable amoung us first.

Right now, under our current system, how does the middle-class expect to be protected when the under-class is growing? I’m not seeing much solidarity between the middle and lower class. The two should be natural allies.

[briansd1]

On the topic of pensions and public employee unions, 2 things to consider:

1/ Do we want to operate by the free market?

If so, then government employees should be at-will employees. Public employees are certainly not anymore “deserving” because they work harder than private citizens who pay taxes.

We can’t have a class of government cadres who have job security, pensions and power over the people.

Under the market system, the Tea Partiers (those who show up at rallies) will have their day of reckoning. It will be too late for them.

2/ Do we want a government of the people for the people?

In that case, I would support government policies that uplift people in the public and private sectors.

The government should protect workers everywhere by making sure that they are paid decent living wages and given pensions.

The government should protect and provide opportunities to the most vulnerable amoung us first.

Right now, under our current system, how does the middle-class expect to be protected when the under-class is growing? I’m not seeing much solidarity between the middle and lower class. The two should be natural allies.

[briansd1]

On the topic of pensions and public employee unions, 2 things to consider:

1/ Do we want to operate by the free market?

If so, then government employees should be at-will employees. Public employees are certainly not anymore “deserving” because they work harder than private citizens who pay taxes.

We can’t have a class of government cadres who have job security, pensions and power over the people.

Under the market system, the Tea Partiers (those who show up at rallies) will have their day of reckoning. It will be too late for them.

2/ Do we want a government of the people for the people?

In that case, I would support government policies that uplift people in the public and private sectors.

The government should protect workers everywhere by making sure that they are paid decent living wages and given pensions.

The government should protect and provide opportunities to the most vulnerable amoung us first.

Right now, under our current system, how does the middle-class expect to be protected when the under-class is growing? I’m not seeing much solidarity between the middle and lower class. The two should be natural allies.

[gandalf]

No, you’re wrong, paramount.

Condescending nonsense. Did you get ‘Blog Points’ with your local GOP for posting that?

Our government contributes to the economy in all kinds of ways. It builds roads, dams, utilities, provides fire and police services, public education, safe food, clean water. It fights wars, funds research that saves lives and invents computer networking technology that make this message board possible.

And I have some news for you. People who WORK for our government still WORK FOR A LIVING. Soldiers in our military, teachers in our public schools, firefighters and police in our towns and cities dealing with crime and disasters. These people WORK FOR A LIVING. Fucking idiot.

All of these goods, services and employees are paid with taxes we contribute to pay for things that WE THE PEOPLE want our government to do. Things that are INCREDIBLY USEFUL and IMPORTANT. And guess what? People who WORK for our government PAY TAXES TOO.

[gandalf]

No, you’re wrong, paramount.

Condescending nonsense. Did you get ‘Blog Points’ with your local GOP for posting that?

Our government contributes to the economy in all kinds of ways. It builds roads, dams, utilities, provides fire and police services, public education, safe food, clean water. It fights wars, funds research that saves lives and invents computer networking technology that make this message board possible.

And I have some news for you. People who WORK for our government still WORK FOR A LIVING. Soldiers in our military, teachers in our public schools, firefighters and police in our towns and cities dealing with crime and disasters. These people WORK FOR A LIVING. Fucking idiot.

All of these goods, services and employees are paid with taxes we contribute to pay for things that WE THE PEOPLE want our government to do. Things that are INCREDIBLY USEFUL and IMPORTANT. And guess what? People who WORK for our government PAY TAXES TOO.

[gandalf]

No, you’re wrong, paramount.

Condescending nonsense. Did you get ‘Blog Points’ with your local GOP for posting that?

Our government contributes to the economy in all kinds of ways. It builds roads, dams, utilities, provides fire and police services, public education, safe food, clean water. It fights wars, funds research that saves lives and invents computer networking technology that make this message board possible.

And I have some news for you. People who WORK for our government still WORK FOR A LIVING. Soldiers in our military, teachers in our public schools, firefighters and police in our towns and cities dealing with crime and disasters. These people WORK FOR A LIVING. Fucking idiot.

All of these goods, services and employees are paid with taxes we contribute to pay for things that WE THE PEOPLE want our government to do. Things that are INCREDIBLY USEFUL and IMPORTANT. And guess what? People who WORK for our government PAY TAXES TOO.

[gandalf]

No, you’re wrong, paramount.

Condescending nonsense. Did you get ‘Blog Points’ with your local GOP for posting that?

Our government contributes to the economy in all kinds of ways. It builds roads, dams, utilities, provides fire and police services, public education, safe food, clean water. It fights wars, funds research that saves lives and invents computer networking technology that make this message board possible.

And I have some news for you. People who WORK for our government still WORK FOR A LIVING. Soldiers in our military, teachers in our public schools, firefighters and police in our towns and cities dealing with crime and disasters. These people WORK FOR A LIVING. Fucking idiot.

All of these goods, services and employees are paid with taxes we contribute to pay for things that WE THE PEOPLE want our government to do. Things that are INCREDIBLY USEFUL and IMPORTANT. And guess what? People who WORK for our government PAY TAXES TOO.

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