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[scaredyclassic]

If Jews loved the USA they would vote rp. If rp loses it’s because Jews hate the USA. Rp alone can save America from doom. If rp loses and America is doomed, it’s the Jews fault.

There you have it. Logic!

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=walterwhite]If Jews loved the USA they would vote rp. If rp loses it’s because Jews hate the USA. Rp alone can save America from doom. If rp loses and America is doomed, it’s the Jews fault.

There you have it. Logic![/quote]

LOL.
Rad.

I still want that sack of gold.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=pri_dk]Along with racism, another warning sign for Nazi type political groups is fanatical reverence for a single leader.
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Yeah. And by that definition, most Mac users are storm troopers.

Seriously, to be any kind of actual Nazi, you have to endorse mass killing of non-combatant enemies.

I mean even Apple had a night of the long knives.
Or several.

Calling dumb people Nazis just devalues the memory of the Nazis and devalues the memories of those they hurt.

Oskar Schindler was a Nazi. And a very honorable person. But lets not forget that he enriched himself with slave labor. He did redeem himself (in sort of a Grinch-stole-christmas way) but he was part of an evil machine.

Real actual Nazis (and people who through deed or allegiance aspire to their legacy) are the only ones who deserve that name.

[Anonymous]

[quote=urbanrealtor]Yeah. And by that definition, most Mac users are storm troopers.[/quote]

That makes no sense…what does Star Wars have to do with Nazis?

But a lot of apple products do have that shiny white stormtrooper armor look.

You may be on to something…

[Anonymous]

[quote=urbanrealtor]Calling dumb people Nazis just devalues the memory of the Nazis and devalues the memories of those they hurt.[/quote]

In seriousness, I do agree with you, but I think it’s way too late to change the trend. The term has taken on a new meaning in our culture.

Also, I believe Schindler was broke at the end of the war, and spent his last cent bribing officials in order to do good.

[Arraya]

Why can’t people talk about jewish power without being racial profiled as a racist, genocidal maniac. Racial profiling is racist.

cognitive dissonance on Jewish power
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/cognitive-dissonance-on-jewish-power.html

Is the board able to have a serious discussion about it without all the conditioned responses? It’s very very noticeable because it is 100% to do with protecting Israel. Yeah, the US media has very very obvious bias towards pushing certain narratives with ZERO about the Palestinian perspective. Now, serious people that talk about this obvious bias differ on the reason. However, it’s not in debate.

Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land: Israel & Palestine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States
The Israel lobby (at times called the Zionist lobby or sometimes the Jewish lobby) is a term used to describe the diverse coalition of those who, as individuals and as groups, seek and have sought to influence the foreign policy of the United States in support of Zionism, Israel or the specific policies of its government.[1] The lobby consists of both Christian-American and Jewish-American secular and religious groups.

The Israel lobby

Israel is a 19th century, ethno-supremacist colonial project creating an apartheid. It’s an anachronism and it’s very own actions are going to make itself self-destruct.

Reality on the ground in occupied territories is a million miles from common US perception. The internet, now, pierces that bubble and the sands are shifting under Israel’s feet.

Silence of a nation

Does this obvious systemic manifestation represent “The Jews”? Of course not – but it is real and if you want to have serious, clear headed discussions about powerful social forces influencing the direction of the country it needs to be discussed.

Now it could be argued that the military-security-fossil fuel complex is the main beneficiary of the stress Israel causes as Chomsky does because it advances US imperial interests. Which is an argument that has merit.

As far as Ron Paul goes. Yes, Israeli apologists hate him.

Look at Ben Stein call RP an antisemite for questioning terrorist motivation. Now, why would he do that?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Arraya]Why can’t people talk about jewish power without being racial profiled as a racist, genocidal maniac. Racial profiling is racist.

cognitive dissonance on Jewish power
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/cognitive-dissonance-on-jewish-power.html

Is the board able to have a serious discussion about it without all the conditioned responses? It’s very very noticeable because it is 100% to do with protecting Israel. [/quote]

I gotta tell you Arraya, my response to asshat had absolutely nothing to do with protecting Israel. Not a thing. I don’t agree with Ron Paul on many things. And those few things we are in agreement, we arrive at the same place for two completely different reasons. Aid to Israel is one of those things. I think it should be stopped. So the argument that it’s always about Israeli apologists doesn’t always fit. (Always rarely does.)

(And Weiss is as useless as Mearsheimer and Walt and Greenwald when it comes to Israel.)

[bubba99]

Arraya writes “Israel is a 19th century, ethno-supremacist colonial project creating an apartheid. It’s an anachronism and it’s very own actions are going to make itself self-destruct.

Reality on the ground in occupied territories is a million miles from common US perception. The internet, now, pierces that bubble and the sands are shifting under Israel’s feet.”

All true, and it should scare the whole world. Israel is not just a back water government that will rise and fall like so many others in the mid-east. Israel has a significant nuclear capability. Last count was in the neighborhood of 200 nuclear devices. Recently Israel has added a second strike capability with German made attack submarines.

What happens when a dogmatic theocracy on a mission from god comes under attack from all sides and has the ability to strike with the un-think-able.

[urbanrealtor]

I don’t buy the inherent wrongness of Israel itself.
I don’t think the way it was conceived, set up, or executed was intelligent but that does not somehow mean it has no right to exist.
The US was built on aggression and oppression toward opponents and with a fair amount of zeal toward any fucked up goals sold to the public (eg: manifest destiny/remember-the-Alamo/remember-the-Goliad/ Anglo-Californian-betrayal-of-the-Californios).

However, you need to get past how everybody got here and actually address what to do now that we are here.

I really think it is to the detriment of all sides to focus on how Israel got there whether they have a right to exist.

Its not really relevant.

They are there and they kicked the bejesus out of a lot of regional players.

They are power to be reckoned with and the other players should actually try to reckon with them in a constructive way.

I genuinely believe that the zealous influence of American cousins have kept the narrative paranoid and paralyzed in much the same way the narrative was kept back in Ulster.

There was no reason for the IRA to maintain its uber-Fenian position other than to appease the stupid American benefactors.

The fact that they have nukes is not a reason to condescend to them. Its a reason to treat them more like the rational adults they are and stop perverting their positions with our agenda.

Dershowitz’ Ziono-Jihadi cheerleading squad notwithstanding.

[SD Realtor]

Very well spoken Rus.

Compared to:

“Again it’s a shame 15% of the population controls that much of the media and controls the other 85%. That’s not what America was built on. Jewish Americans should be called anti-American when they attack us and control our media.”

Oh yeah and I wonder who the “us” is and the “our media” is that the bigot was referring to. I guess in his world there are jewish americans and the rest of the citizens are americans right?

Maybe not a nazi Dan, but ya gotta start somewhere right?

[SK in CV]

[quote=SD Realtor]Very well spoken Rus.

Compared to:

“Again it’s a shame 15% of the population controls that much of the media and controls the other 85%. That’s not what America was built on. Jewish Americans should be called anti-American when they attack us and control our media.”

Oh yeah and I wonder who the “us” is and the “our media” is that the bigot was referring to. I guess in his world there are jewish americans and the rest of the citizens are americans right?

Maybe not a nazi Dan, but ya gotta start somewhere right?[/quote]

Not that it’s really important. Other than maybe to annoy asshat even more. But it isn’t anywhere near 15%. More like 2%.

2%. Controlling the media. At least they don’t control the liquor stores.

[scaredyclassic]

moving on to godwin, it’s interetsing to note that Hitler never characterized the germans actively being enemies of the jews. it was always the germans on the defensive, the jews who made the enemies, the jews who were betraying germany, and taking control of germany.

I have no position ont he rightness or wrongness of israel. i remember growing upa nd seeing lots of picures of muscularisraeli jews and thinking, damn, those are some muscular jews on the kibbutz. I didn’t think of jews as that muscular.

every israeli ive ever met is kind of an abrasive dude. i guess you ahve to be. probably i wouldnt be such a wuss if i gre wup there.

I guess they believed in squatting.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=SD Realtor]Very well spoken Rus.

Compared to:

“Again it’s a shame 15% of the population controls that much of the media and controls the other 85%. That’s not what America was built on. Jewish Americans should be called anti-American when they attack us and control our media.”

Oh yeah and I wonder who the “us” is and the “our media” is that the bigot was referring to. I guess in his world there are jewish americans and the rest of the citizens are americans right?[/quote]

You are supposed to note it when you change your post.

Anyhow, I find asshat/markmax far more of a circus than most I read here. He actually made coffee come out of my nose the other day. In that sense he is more of a bread in that he nourishes my need to meanly laugh at something.

The irony that an anti-gay agent (or assistant or whatever rustico/russell/jacarandoso is) taking a high ground in a conversation about bigotry is so silly I fear that the furrow in my brow may be stuck there.

[NotCranky]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=SD Realtor]Very well spoken Rus.

Compared to:

“Again it’s a shame 15% of the population controls that much of the media and controls the other 85%. That’s not what America was built on. Jewish Americans should be called anti-American when they attack us and control our media.”

Oh yeah and I wonder who the “us” is and the “our media” is that the bigot was referring to. I guess in his world there are jewish americans and the rest of the citizens are americans right?[/quote]

You are supposed to note it when you change your post.

Anyhow, I find asshat/markmax far more of a circus than most I read here. He actually made coffee come out of my nose the other day. In that sense he is more of a bread in that he nourishes my need to meanly laugh at something.

The irony that an anti-gay agent (or assistant or whatever rustico/russell/jacarandoso is) taking a high ground in a conversation about bigotry is so silly I fear that the furrow in my brow may be stuck there.[/quote]

I am not anti-gay and I did not specifically take any high ground on this thread… nor has anyone else.Perhaps Arraya was near high ground, as usual.

[briansd1]

[quote=urbanrealtor]

However, you need to get past how everybody got here and actually address what to do now that we are here.

I really think it is to the detriment of all sides to focus on how Israel got there whether they have a right to exist.

Its not really relevant.
[/quote]

I agree.

That’s why the best strategy to winning is the create faits accomplis. The Israeli know that full well.

The bank bailout mess is kinda similar. You have faits accomplis. You have to deal with them moving forward because the past cannot be changed.

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