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July 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM #241673July 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM #241482partypupParticipant
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“partypup, besides my insults, I’m sorry but that’s ome of what I think of you. However, let’s have some intelligence discourse. I’ve already asked you in my last post. I’ll be more pointed:
1. What are you going to do about these issues that Obama has “flip-flopped” on that concern you? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM? I’M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I DON’T HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE OBAMA RETRACT HIS THREATS AGAINST PAKISTAN. OR MAKE HIM CHANGE HIS FISA VOTE. PLENTY OF HIS SUPPORTERS TRIED TO DO THAT ON HIS WEBSITE, TO NO AVAIL. HE SIMPLY DISAVOWED A PLEDGE AND DID WHAT HE WANTED TO. IT’S A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.
2. What do you mean to accomplish here with your abrasive post? PLEASE DETAIL HOW MY POST WAS ABRASIVE. WAS IT ABRASIVE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREED WITH IT? NO ONE ELSE COMMENTED THAT IT WAS “ABRASIVE” Is your goal to make us “aware” of the “evil” establishment? MY GOAL IS TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. I KNOW THAT IN MARION-WORLD, THIS WOULD BE A CRIME. FORTUNATELY, WE AREN’T PART OF YOUR WORLD.
3. Are you trying to warn us that the first black president will be a “disaster”? I’M WARNING THAT THIS COUNTRY — REGARDLESS OF WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT — IS FACING A DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ON A POLITICAL, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LEVEL. THE COLOR OF THE TOOL’S SKIN IS COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL AND IRRELEVANT TO ME, AS IT SHOULD BE TO YOU.
4. Do you not think he’s capable of changing his mind once in office? MOST CERTAINLY. HE WILL NO DOUBT CHANGE HIS MIND ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, SINCE HE LACKS ANYTHING RESEMBLING A CORE. BUT YOU WON’T LIKE THE CHANGES, MARION. UNLESS YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO MAINTAIN YOUR FREEDOMS.
5. You said you’re voting for a “third party”. How effective do you see that being taking into account that the next president of the United States will be either A. Democrat B. Republican C. Democrat or Republican? SEE, THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM IN YOUR THINKING. YOU SIMPLY ACCEPT THE CHOICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO YOU. IF YOU AND OTHERS WERE TO SIMPLY REJECT THE TWO CHOICES, NEITHER WOULD POSSIBLY WIN. I COVERED THIS IN ANOTHER POST IN MORE DETAIL. I RECENTLY WATCHED “JOHN ADAMS” ON HBO AND WAS REMINDED THAT 18TH CENTURY COLONISTS WERE FACING A VERY SIMILAR DILEMMA WHEN DECIDING WHETHER TO FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. THE MAJORITY, LARGELY COMPLACENT, FELT THAT THE ODDS OF DEFEATING THE WELL-ARMED AND WELL-FUNDED CROWN WERE SIMPLY TOO GREAT TO EVEN BOTHER CHALLENGING IT. BUT GRADUALLY, AND SLOWLY, THE INDIGNITIES GREW, THE ANGER GREW, AND THE BREACHES OF LIBERTIES GREW, UNTIL FINALLY THE MINORITY SWELLED INTO THE MAJORITY AND SIMPLY REJECTED THE REALITY THAT THE CROWN WAS DESTINED TO RULE THEM. YOU MUST THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, MARION. IF WE STAY ON THIS PATH, IT’S OVER. YOU THINK I WHINE? YOU THINK I’M A DOOMER? THE LIGHT AND HOPE I GIVE YOU IS THIS: WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR FUTURE, BUT WE MUST FIRST ABANDON OUR COMPLACENCY. I’VE DONE THAT. AND OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO, AS WELL. YOU CAN’T BRING YOURSELF TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED BY MEDIOCRITY AND DON’T MIND SUCCUMBING TO IT.
6. In short, what is the purpose of this thread you started? What are you trying to get accross besides the presumption that Obama is Satan? I DON’T RECALL EVER REFERRING TO OBAMA AS SATAN. MY POINT IS THAT YOU AND MANY OTHERS ARE BEING LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY IN BELIEVING THAT OBAMA IS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN MCCAIN. THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE SAME DEEP POCKETS AND ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF TWO PARTIES THAT HAVE ALL BUT MERGED. PELOSI RULES OUT IMPEACHMENT FOR THE BIGGEST WAR CRIMINAL IN OUR NATION’S HISTORY; THE DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY FUND THIS INSANE WAR, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY ELECTED TO END IT; AND THEY HAVE WILLINGLY HANDED OVER OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES TO BUSH IN THE PATRIOT ACT AND VARIOUS EXTENSIONS THEREOF.
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT IT’S A SHELL GAME? YOU ARE BEING OFFERED A CHOICE OF CHICKEN OR FISH, AND BOTH HAVE BEEN PREPARED BY THE SAME CHEF — AND BOTH ENTREES ARE POISONOUS. YOU OBVIOUSLY LABOR UNDER THE DELUSION THAT BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK AND A DEMOCRAT YOU WILL FARE BETTER UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION. AS I TOOK PAINS TO EXPLAIN IN MY ORIGINAL POST, HIS POSITIONS ARE NOW BEGINNING TO COALESCE WITH MCCAIN’S. YOU THINK THIS IS DUE TO POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE; I DISAGREE. SADLY, I WON’T BE PROVEN RIGHT UNTIL HE IS ELECTED.
July 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM #241618partypupParticipantCAPS BELOW
“partypup, besides my insults, I’m sorry but that’s ome of what I think of you. However, let’s have some intelligence discourse. I’ve already asked you in my last post. I’ll be more pointed:
1. What are you going to do about these issues that Obama has “flip-flopped” on that concern you? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM? I’M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I DON’T HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE OBAMA RETRACT HIS THREATS AGAINST PAKISTAN. OR MAKE HIM CHANGE HIS FISA VOTE. PLENTY OF HIS SUPPORTERS TRIED TO DO THAT ON HIS WEBSITE, TO NO AVAIL. HE SIMPLY DISAVOWED A PLEDGE AND DID WHAT HE WANTED TO. IT’S A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.
2. What do you mean to accomplish here with your abrasive post? PLEASE DETAIL HOW MY POST WAS ABRASIVE. WAS IT ABRASIVE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREED WITH IT? NO ONE ELSE COMMENTED THAT IT WAS “ABRASIVE” Is your goal to make us “aware” of the “evil” establishment? MY GOAL IS TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. I KNOW THAT IN MARION-WORLD, THIS WOULD BE A CRIME. FORTUNATELY, WE AREN’T PART OF YOUR WORLD.
3. Are you trying to warn us that the first black president will be a “disaster”? I’M WARNING THAT THIS COUNTRY — REGARDLESS OF WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT — IS FACING A DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ON A POLITICAL, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LEVEL. THE COLOR OF THE TOOL’S SKIN IS COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL AND IRRELEVANT TO ME, AS IT SHOULD BE TO YOU.
4. Do you not think he’s capable of changing his mind once in office? MOST CERTAINLY. HE WILL NO DOUBT CHANGE HIS MIND ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, SINCE HE LACKS ANYTHING RESEMBLING A CORE. BUT YOU WON’T LIKE THE CHANGES, MARION. UNLESS YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO MAINTAIN YOUR FREEDOMS.
5. You said you’re voting for a “third party”. How effective do you see that being taking into account that the next president of the United States will be either A. Democrat B. Republican C. Democrat or Republican? SEE, THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM IN YOUR THINKING. YOU SIMPLY ACCEPT THE CHOICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO YOU. IF YOU AND OTHERS WERE TO SIMPLY REJECT THE TWO CHOICES, NEITHER WOULD POSSIBLY WIN. I COVERED THIS IN ANOTHER POST IN MORE DETAIL. I RECENTLY WATCHED “JOHN ADAMS” ON HBO AND WAS REMINDED THAT 18TH CENTURY COLONISTS WERE FACING A VERY SIMILAR DILEMMA WHEN DECIDING WHETHER TO FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. THE MAJORITY, LARGELY COMPLACENT, FELT THAT THE ODDS OF DEFEATING THE WELL-ARMED AND WELL-FUNDED CROWN WERE SIMPLY TOO GREAT TO EVEN BOTHER CHALLENGING IT. BUT GRADUALLY, AND SLOWLY, THE INDIGNITIES GREW, THE ANGER GREW, AND THE BREACHES OF LIBERTIES GREW, UNTIL FINALLY THE MINORITY SWELLED INTO THE MAJORITY AND SIMPLY REJECTED THE REALITY THAT THE CROWN WAS DESTINED TO RULE THEM. YOU MUST THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, MARION. IF WE STAY ON THIS PATH, IT’S OVER. YOU THINK I WHINE? YOU THINK I’M A DOOMER? THE LIGHT AND HOPE I GIVE YOU IS THIS: WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR FUTURE, BUT WE MUST FIRST ABANDON OUR COMPLACENCY. I’VE DONE THAT. AND OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO, AS WELL. YOU CAN’T BRING YOURSELF TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED BY MEDIOCRITY AND DON’T MIND SUCCUMBING TO IT.
6. In short, what is the purpose of this thread you started? What are you trying to get accross besides the presumption that Obama is Satan? I DON’T RECALL EVER REFERRING TO OBAMA AS SATAN. MY POINT IS THAT YOU AND MANY OTHERS ARE BEING LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY IN BELIEVING THAT OBAMA IS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN MCCAIN. THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE SAME DEEP POCKETS AND ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF TWO PARTIES THAT HAVE ALL BUT MERGED. PELOSI RULES OUT IMPEACHMENT FOR THE BIGGEST WAR CRIMINAL IN OUR NATION’S HISTORY; THE DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY FUND THIS INSANE WAR, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY ELECTED TO END IT; AND THEY HAVE WILLINGLY HANDED OVER OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES TO BUSH IN THE PATRIOT ACT AND VARIOUS EXTENSIONS THEREOF.
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT IT’S A SHELL GAME? YOU ARE BEING OFFERED A CHOICE OF CHICKEN OR FISH, AND BOTH HAVE BEEN PREPARED BY THE SAME CHEF — AND BOTH ENTREES ARE POISONOUS. YOU OBVIOUSLY LABOR UNDER THE DELUSION THAT BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK AND A DEMOCRAT YOU WILL FARE BETTER UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION. AS I TOOK PAINS TO EXPLAIN IN MY ORIGINAL POST, HIS POSITIONS ARE NOW BEGINNING TO COALESCE WITH MCCAIN’S. YOU THINK THIS IS DUE TO POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE; I DISAGREE. SADLY, I WON’T BE PROVEN RIGHT UNTIL HE IS ELECTED.
July 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM #241627partypupParticipantCAPS BELOW
“partypup, besides my insults, I’m sorry but that’s ome of what I think of you. However, let’s have some intelligence discourse. I’ve already asked you in my last post. I’ll be more pointed:
1. What are you going to do about these issues that Obama has “flip-flopped” on that concern you? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM? I’M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I DON’T HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE OBAMA RETRACT HIS THREATS AGAINST PAKISTAN. OR MAKE HIM CHANGE HIS FISA VOTE. PLENTY OF HIS SUPPORTERS TRIED TO DO THAT ON HIS WEBSITE, TO NO AVAIL. HE SIMPLY DISAVOWED A PLEDGE AND DID WHAT HE WANTED TO. IT’S A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.
2. What do you mean to accomplish here with your abrasive post? PLEASE DETAIL HOW MY POST WAS ABRASIVE. WAS IT ABRASIVE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREED WITH IT? NO ONE ELSE COMMENTED THAT IT WAS “ABRASIVE” Is your goal to make us “aware” of the “evil” establishment? MY GOAL IS TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. I KNOW THAT IN MARION-WORLD, THIS WOULD BE A CRIME. FORTUNATELY, WE AREN’T PART OF YOUR WORLD.
3. Are you trying to warn us that the first black president will be a “disaster”? I’M WARNING THAT THIS COUNTRY — REGARDLESS OF WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT — IS FACING A DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ON A POLITICAL, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LEVEL. THE COLOR OF THE TOOL’S SKIN IS COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL AND IRRELEVANT TO ME, AS IT SHOULD BE TO YOU.
4. Do you not think he’s capable of changing his mind once in office? MOST CERTAINLY. HE WILL NO DOUBT CHANGE HIS MIND ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, SINCE HE LACKS ANYTHING RESEMBLING A CORE. BUT YOU WON’T LIKE THE CHANGES, MARION. UNLESS YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO MAINTAIN YOUR FREEDOMS.
5. You said you’re voting for a “third party”. How effective do you see that being taking into account that the next president of the United States will be either A. Democrat B. Republican C. Democrat or Republican? SEE, THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM IN YOUR THINKING. YOU SIMPLY ACCEPT THE CHOICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO YOU. IF YOU AND OTHERS WERE TO SIMPLY REJECT THE TWO CHOICES, NEITHER WOULD POSSIBLY WIN. I COVERED THIS IN ANOTHER POST IN MORE DETAIL. I RECENTLY WATCHED “JOHN ADAMS” ON HBO AND WAS REMINDED THAT 18TH CENTURY COLONISTS WERE FACING A VERY SIMILAR DILEMMA WHEN DECIDING WHETHER TO FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. THE MAJORITY, LARGELY COMPLACENT, FELT THAT THE ODDS OF DEFEATING THE WELL-ARMED AND WELL-FUNDED CROWN WERE SIMPLY TOO GREAT TO EVEN BOTHER CHALLENGING IT. BUT GRADUALLY, AND SLOWLY, THE INDIGNITIES GREW, THE ANGER GREW, AND THE BREACHES OF LIBERTIES GREW, UNTIL FINALLY THE MINORITY SWELLED INTO THE MAJORITY AND SIMPLY REJECTED THE REALITY THAT THE CROWN WAS DESTINED TO RULE THEM. YOU MUST THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, MARION. IF WE STAY ON THIS PATH, IT’S OVER. YOU THINK I WHINE? YOU THINK I’M A DOOMER? THE LIGHT AND HOPE I GIVE YOU IS THIS: WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR FUTURE, BUT WE MUST FIRST ABANDON OUR COMPLACENCY. I’VE DONE THAT. AND OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO, AS WELL. YOU CAN’T BRING YOURSELF TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED BY MEDIOCRITY AND DON’T MIND SUCCUMBING TO IT.
6. In short, what is the purpose of this thread you started? What are you trying to get accross besides the presumption that Obama is Satan? I DON’T RECALL EVER REFERRING TO OBAMA AS SATAN. MY POINT IS THAT YOU AND MANY OTHERS ARE BEING LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY IN BELIEVING THAT OBAMA IS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN MCCAIN. THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE SAME DEEP POCKETS AND ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF TWO PARTIES THAT HAVE ALL BUT MERGED. PELOSI RULES OUT IMPEACHMENT FOR THE BIGGEST WAR CRIMINAL IN OUR NATION’S HISTORY; THE DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY FUND THIS INSANE WAR, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY ELECTED TO END IT; AND THEY HAVE WILLINGLY HANDED OVER OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES TO BUSH IN THE PATRIOT ACT AND VARIOUS EXTENSIONS THEREOF.
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT IT’S A SHELL GAME? YOU ARE BEING OFFERED A CHOICE OF CHICKEN OR FISH, AND BOTH HAVE BEEN PREPARED BY THE SAME CHEF — AND BOTH ENTREES ARE POISONOUS. YOU OBVIOUSLY LABOR UNDER THE DELUSION THAT BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK AND A DEMOCRAT YOU WILL FARE BETTER UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION. AS I TOOK PAINS TO EXPLAIN IN MY ORIGINAL POST, HIS POSITIONS ARE NOW BEGINNING TO COALESCE WITH MCCAIN’S. YOU THINK THIS IS DUE TO POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE; I DISAGREE. SADLY, I WON’T BE PROVEN RIGHT UNTIL HE IS ELECTED.
July 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM #241680partypupParticipantCAPS BELOW
“partypup, besides my insults, I’m sorry but that’s ome of what I think of you. However, let’s have some intelligence discourse. I’ve already asked you in my last post. I’ll be more pointed:
1. What are you going to do about these issues that Obama has “flip-flopped” on that concern you? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM? I’M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I DON’T HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE OBAMA RETRACT HIS THREATS AGAINST PAKISTAN. OR MAKE HIM CHANGE HIS FISA VOTE. PLENTY OF HIS SUPPORTERS TRIED TO DO THAT ON HIS WEBSITE, TO NO AVAIL. HE SIMPLY DISAVOWED A PLEDGE AND DID WHAT HE WANTED TO. IT’S A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.
2. What do you mean to accomplish here with your abrasive post? PLEASE DETAIL HOW MY POST WAS ABRASIVE. WAS IT ABRASIVE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREED WITH IT? NO ONE ELSE COMMENTED THAT IT WAS “ABRASIVE” Is your goal to make us “aware” of the “evil” establishment? MY GOAL IS TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. I KNOW THAT IN MARION-WORLD, THIS WOULD BE A CRIME. FORTUNATELY, WE AREN’T PART OF YOUR WORLD.
3. Are you trying to warn us that the first black president will be a “disaster”? I’M WARNING THAT THIS COUNTRY — REGARDLESS OF WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT — IS FACING A DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ON A POLITICAL, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LEVEL. THE COLOR OF THE TOOL’S SKIN IS COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL AND IRRELEVANT TO ME, AS IT SHOULD BE TO YOU.
4. Do you not think he’s capable of changing his mind once in office? MOST CERTAINLY. HE WILL NO DOUBT CHANGE HIS MIND ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, SINCE HE LACKS ANYTHING RESEMBLING A CORE. BUT YOU WON’T LIKE THE CHANGES, MARION. UNLESS YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO MAINTAIN YOUR FREEDOMS.
5. You said you’re voting for a “third party”. How effective do you see that being taking into account that the next president of the United States will be either A. Democrat B. Republican C. Democrat or Republican? SEE, THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM IN YOUR THINKING. YOU SIMPLY ACCEPT THE CHOICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO YOU. IF YOU AND OTHERS WERE TO SIMPLY REJECT THE TWO CHOICES, NEITHER WOULD POSSIBLY WIN. I COVERED THIS IN ANOTHER POST IN MORE DETAIL. I RECENTLY WATCHED “JOHN ADAMS” ON HBO AND WAS REMINDED THAT 18TH CENTURY COLONISTS WERE FACING A VERY SIMILAR DILEMMA WHEN DECIDING WHETHER TO FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. THE MAJORITY, LARGELY COMPLACENT, FELT THAT THE ODDS OF DEFEATING THE WELL-ARMED AND WELL-FUNDED CROWN WERE SIMPLY TOO GREAT TO EVEN BOTHER CHALLENGING IT. BUT GRADUALLY, AND SLOWLY, THE INDIGNITIES GREW, THE ANGER GREW, AND THE BREACHES OF LIBERTIES GREW, UNTIL FINALLY THE MINORITY SWELLED INTO THE MAJORITY AND SIMPLY REJECTED THE REALITY THAT THE CROWN WAS DESTINED TO RULE THEM. YOU MUST THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, MARION. IF WE STAY ON THIS PATH, IT’S OVER. YOU THINK I WHINE? YOU THINK I’M A DOOMER? THE LIGHT AND HOPE I GIVE YOU IS THIS: WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR FUTURE, BUT WE MUST FIRST ABANDON OUR COMPLACENCY. I’VE DONE THAT. AND OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO, AS WELL. YOU CAN’T BRING YOURSELF TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED BY MEDIOCRITY AND DON’T MIND SUCCUMBING TO IT.
6. In short, what is the purpose of this thread you started? What are you trying to get accross besides the presumption that Obama is Satan? I DON’T RECALL EVER REFERRING TO OBAMA AS SATAN. MY POINT IS THAT YOU AND MANY OTHERS ARE BEING LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY IN BELIEVING THAT OBAMA IS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN MCCAIN. THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE SAME DEEP POCKETS AND ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF TWO PARTIES THAT HAVE ALL BUT MERGED. PELOSI RULES OUT IMPEACHMENT FOR THE BIGGEST WAR CRIMINAL IN OUR NATION’S HISTORY; THE DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY FUND THIS INSANE WAR, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY ELECTED TO END IT; AND THEY HAVE WILLINGLY HANDED OVER OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES TO BUSH IN THE PATRIOT ACT AND VARIOUS EXTENSIONS THEREOF.
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT IT’S A SHELL GAME? YOU ARE BEING OFFERED A CHOICE OF CHICKEN OR FISH, AND BOTH HAVE BEEN PREPARED BY THE SAME CHEF — AND BOTH ENTREES ARE POISONOUS. YOU OBVIOUSLY LABOR UNDER THE DELUSION THAT BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK AND A DEMOCRAT YOU WILL FARE BETTER UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION. AS I TOOK PAINS TO EXPLAIN IN MY ORIGINAL POST, HIS POSITIONS ARE NOW BEGINNING TO COALESCE WITH MCCAIN’S. YOU THINK THIS IS DUE TO POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE; I DISAGREE. SADLY, I WON’T BE PROVEN RIGHT UNTIL HE IS ELECTED.
July 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM #241683partypupParticipantCAPS BELOW
“partypup, besides my insults, I’m sorry but that’s ome of what I think of you. However, let’s have some intelligence discourse. I’ve already asked you in my last post. I’ll be more pointed:
1. What are you going to do about these issues that Obama has “flip-flopped” on that concern you? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM? I’M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I DON’T HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE OBAMA RETRACT HIS THREATS AGAINST PAKISTAN. OR MAKE HIM CHANGE HIS FISA VOTE. PLENTY OF HIS SUPPORTERS TRIED TO DO THAT ON HIS WEBSITE, TO NO AVAIL. HE SIMPLY DISAVOWED A PLEDGE AND DID WHAT HE WANTED TO. IT’S A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.
2. What do you mean to accomplish here with your abrasive post? PLEASE DETAIL HOW MY POST WAS ABRASIVE. WAS IT ABRASIVE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREED WITH IT? NO ONE ELSE COMMENTED THAT IT WAS “ABRASIVE” Is your goal to make us “aware” of the “evil” establishment? MY GOAL IS TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. I KNOW THAT IN MARION-WORLD, THIS WOULD BE A CRIME. FORTUNATELY, WE AREN’T PART OF YOUR WORLD.
3. Are you trying to warn us that the first black president will be a “disaster”? I’M WARNING THAT THIS COUNTRY — REGARDLESS OF WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT — IS FACING A DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ON A POLITICAL, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LEVEL. THE COLOR OF THE TOOL’S SKIN IS COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL AND IRRELEVANT TO ME, AS IT SHOULD BE TO YOU.
4. Do you not think he’s capable of changing his mind once in office? MOST CERTAINLY. HE WILL NO DOUBT CHANGE HIS MIND ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, SINCE HE LACKS ANYTHING RESEMBLING A CORE. BUT YOU WON’T LIKE THE CHANGES, MARION. UNLESS YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO MAINTAIN YOUR FREEDOMS.
5. You said you’re voting for a “third party”. How effective do you see that being taking into account that the next president of the United States will be either A. Democrat B. Republican C. Democrat or Republican? SEE, THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM IN YOUR THINKING. YOU SIMPLY ACCEPT THE CHOICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO YOU. IF YOU AND OTHERS WERE TO SIMPLY REJECT THE TWO CHOICES, NEITHER WOULD POSSIBLY WIN. I COVERED THIS IN ANOTHER POST IN MORE DETAIL. I RECENTLY WATCHED “JOHN ADAMS” ON HBO AND WAS REMINDED THAT 18TH CENTURY COLONISTS WERE FACING A VERY SIMILAR DILEMMA WHEN DECIDING WHETHER TO FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. THE MAJORITY, LARGELY COMPLACENT, FELT THAT THE ODDS OF DEFEATING THE WELL-ARMED AND WELL-FUNDED CROWN WERE SIMPLY TOO GREAT TO EVEN BOTHER CHALLENGING IT. BUT GRADUALLY, AND SLOWLY, THE INDIGNITIES GREW, THE ANGER GREW, AND THE BREACHES OF LIBERTIES GREW, UNTIL FINALLY THE MINORITY SWELLED INTO THE MAJORITY AND SIMPLY REJECTED THE REALITY THAT THE CROWN WAS DESTINED TO RULE THEM. YOU MUST THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, MARION. IF WE STAY ON THIS PATH, IT’S OVER. YOU THINK I WHINE? YOU THINK I’M A DOOMER? THE LIGHT AND HOPE I GIVE YOU IS THIS: WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR FUTURE, BUT WE MUST FIRST ABANDON OUR COMPLACENCY. I’VE DONE THAT. AND OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO, AS WELL. YOU CAN’T BRING YOURSELF TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED BY MEDIOCRITY AND DON’T MIND SUCCUMBING TO IT.
6. In short, what is the purpose of this thread you started? What are you trying to get accross besides the presumption that Obama is Satan? I DON’T RECALL EVER REFERRING TO OBAMA AS SATAN. MY POINT IS THAT YOU AND MANY OTHERS ARE BEING LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY IN BELIEVING THAT OBAMA IS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN MCCAIN. THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE SAME DEEP POCKETS AND ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF TWO PARTIES THAT HAVE ALL BUT MERGED. PELOSI RULES OUT IMPEACHMENT FOR THE BIGGEST WAR CRIMINAL IN OUR NATION’S HISTORY; THE DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY FUND THIS INSANE WAR, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY ELECTED TO END IT; AND THEY HAVE WILLINGLY HANDED OVER OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES TO BUSH IN THE PATRIOT ACT AND VARIOUS EXTENSIONS THEREOF.
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT IT’S A SHELL GAME? YOU ARE BEING OFFERED A CHOICE OF CHICKEN OR FISH, AND BOTH HAVE BEEN PREPARED BY THE SAME CHEF — AND BOTH ENTREES ARE POISONOUS. YOU OBVIOUSLY LABOR UNDER THE DELUSION THAT BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK AND A DEMOCRAT YOU WILL FARE BETTER UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION. AS I TOOK PAINS TO EXPLAIN IN MY ORIGINAL POST, HIS POSITIONS ARE NOW BEGINNING TO COALESCE WITH MCCAIN’S. YOU THINK THIS IS DUE TO POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE; I DISAGREE. SADLY, I WON’T BE PROVEN RIGHT UNTIL HE IS ELECTED.
July 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM #241492AnonymousGuest[quote=partypup]”If you are real, I wouldn’t want to be a man in ANY type of relationship with you.
I’ve probably said too much of what I think. Sorry.”
Well, you’re half right: you definitely said too much. Doubtful there was any real thinking behind it, though.
And who is talking about being in a relationship with you? For God’s sake, cooperthedog was right: you DO have a narcissistic personality disorder. No one on this board seems to care what you think, and we care even less about sharing a physical space with you.
“Since I think it’s time for a minority president, yes, I’m pleased. SO WHERE’S THE EMBARRASSMENT?”
You’re racist. And you’re intolerant. And if you’re too ignorant to be embarrassed by those qualities, then you’re also pathetically tragic.
“What bugs me about you is your incesstant whining.”
How very Phil Gramm of you. I find it so ironic that you fancy yourself a Democrat. You love to slap labels on people. You love to stereotype and make assumptions based on a sliver of knowledge or facts. You care little for the threat to democracy that we are now seeing from a party that is supposed to jealously guard its survival. You are an enemy of the first amendment, as you have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others.
But yet, you hate McCain because he will continue the “misery”. Marion, you ARE the misery.
Most disturbingly, you expect me and others on this board to suck it up and be satisfied with Obama SIMPLY because he is not McCain. Well, here’s a newsflash: thinking people don’t play that game. Only brain dead dolts adopt your philosophy. But I should hardly be surprised: everything about you — your intolerance, your apathy towards the glaring problems that plague our political system — make it clear that you have no respect for democracy or its survival. You’re far more interested in analyzing the level of someone’s sexual satisfaction — or perhaps getting a good leg wax.
“When you have posted what you are going to do, or can do about the problem. Who is a viable choice-McCain is NOT-and can do this all without coming across as a cat that has just been thrown against a wall and is all wound up, I will take your posts seriously.”
I don’t care if you take my posts seriously. That would be akin to me caring if a gnat shares my views on global warming. It just doesn’t register. Get it?
In your own strange little world you seem to believe that I support McCain. Let me as clear as I can: both candidates are crooks of the highest order.
Unless and until Americans refuse to accept the mediocrity that is presented to them and actively support a third party, we will soon find ourselves slaves. Short of that, a revolution is in order. This doesn’t necessarily require violence.
The first step is to simply not vote for these crooks.
Of course people like you scoff at a third party because it’s not “viable”. You will say that we don’t have the power to elect a third party. But at the very least we have the power NOT to vote for the candidates who have been forced upon us. If enough Americans were persuaded to think, “I will ONLY go to the polls to support the candidate that I am PASSIONATE about”, neither one of these losers would win. It’s not an inconceivable task. It doesn’t even take huge sums of money to get a grass roots movement going. The idea would be: “Don’t waste your time voting if you don’t TRULY believe in the candidate. Just stay home.” Make no mistake: there are HUGE numbers of Dems and Republicans who are only voting for their candidates by default. If people ditched that obligation to vote “just because”, a third party candidate would instantly become viable.
And that is what the Establishment fears most. if ho-hum voters simply went on strike on election Day, the PTB would freak out. But of course, we could never count on you to do that, Marion. Because your head is so far up the Establishment’s rear end you’ve long ago surrendered the ability to think for yourself.
So there: I’ve posted what I would do about the problem. You, on the other hand, prefer to compare me to a cat thrown against a wall and refuse all comment to the issues raised.
But I suspect you haven’t commented on the issues because in your mind, Obama can do or say anything and it would be just fine with you. He could suspend your right to exit the country, and you would find a way to justify that. And that’s what is *particularly* scary about you (in addition to your strange and disturbing tendency to inject sex into almost every discussion). You are a drone of the highest degree. You are a prime example of how and why this country was so easily highjacked by the thugs who now run it. Because you have no expectations of your leaders. Because you demand so little of them. Because you don’t value democracy. Because you simply don’t CARE.
“I don’t like whoever is on the keyboard behind the screename.”
What are you — a CHILD?? Are you six years old, Marion? Why don’t you push yourself away from the keyboard, sit on the bed and wait for your mother to change your diaper.
“What he says, feels, today does not mean he’s going to do that once in office. He’s allowed to change his mind.”
I’m curious, Marion. In your extensive knowledge of U.S. political history, can you think of even one presidential candidate who has supported violations of our Constitution while campaigning — and then turned into a vigorous defender of those rights once in office? Here’s the answer: none. Because until recently, our Consitution was INTACT. Civil liberties are not to be toyed with lightly, and FISA is no joke. And any candidate who is serious enough to threaten our rights while trying to GET our votes will not hesitate to trample them once in office when he doesn’t need our votes. You are fooling yourself if you believe McBama is simply adopting a political ploy to get elected. What is happening is much more sinister and dangerous.
One day, you’ll actually figure that out. Of course, it will be far too late, and you will be roadkill. But I’m sure even dead squirrels may have an epiphany before meeting their Maker.
P.S. — Have you noticed that NO one ever agrees with you on this board? Food for thought.[/quote]
Bravo! She finally said something worth saying and without the whining! AND Marion actually agrees with her! Ha! Fancy that? π
Well, except for the “sinister and dangerous” part, don’t know if Obama’s master plan is quite so dark.
P.S. Except as a professional, her (partypup’s) last post with the ALL CAPS has me a bit concerned…
Partypup, calm down… It’s OK…
July 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM #241628AnonymousGuest[quote=partypup]”If you are real, I wouldn’t want to be a man in ANY type of relationship with you.
I’ve probably said too much of what I think. Sorry.”
Well, you’re half right: you definitely said too much. Doubtful there was any real thinking behind it, though.
And who is talking about being in a relationship with you? For God’s sake, cooperthedog was right: you DO have a narcissistic personality disorder. No one on this board seems to care what you think, and we care even less about sharing a physical space with you.
“Since I think it’s time for a minority president, yes, I’m pleased. SO WHERE’S THE EMBARRASSMENT?”
You’re racist. And you’re intolerant. And if you’re too ignorant to be embarrassed by those qualities, then you’re also pathetically tragic.
“What bugs me about you is your incesstant whining.”
How very Phil Gramm of you. I find it so ironic that you fancy yourself a Democrat. You love to slap labels on people. You love to stereotype and make assumptions based on a sliver of knowledge or facts. You care little for the threat to democracy that we are now seeing from a party that is supposed to jealously guard its survival. You are an enemy of the first amendment, as you have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others.
But yet, you hate McCain because he will continue the “misery”. Marion, you ARE the misery.
Most disturbingly, you expect me and others on this board to suck it up and be satisfied with Obama SIMPLY because he is not McCain. Well, here’s a newsflash: thinking people don’t play that game. Only brain dead dolts adopt your philosophy. But I should hardly be surprised: everything about you — your intolerance, your apathy towards the glaring problems that plague our political system — make it clear that you have no respect for democracy or its survival. You’re far more interested in analyzing the level of someone’s sexual satisfaction — or perhaps getting a good leg wax.
“When you have posted what you are going to do, or can do about the problem. Who is a viable choice-McCain is NOT-and can do this all without coming across as a cat that has just been thrown against a wall and is all wound up, I will take your posts seriously.”
I don’t care if you take my posts seriously. That would be akin to me caring if a gnat shares my views on global warming. It just doesn’t register. Get it?
In your own strange little world you seem to believe that I support McCain. Let me as clear as I can: both candidates are crooks of the highest order.
Unless and until Americans refuse to accept the mediocrity that is presented to them and actively support a third party, we will soon find ourselves slaves. Short of that, a revolution is in order. This doesn’t necessarily require violence.
The first step is to simply not vote for these crooks.
Of course people like you scoff at a third party because it’s not “viable”. You will say that we don’t have the power to elect a third party. But at the very least we have the power NOT to vote for the candidates who have been forced upon us. If enough Americans were persuaded to think, “I will ONLY go to the polls to support the candidate that I am PASSIONATE about”, neither one of these losers would win. It’s not an inconceivable task. It doesn’t even take huge sums of money to get a grass roots movement going. The idea would be: “Don’t waste your time voting if you don’t TRULY believe in the candidate. Just stay home.” Make no mistake: there are HUGE numbers of Dems and Republicans who are only voting for their candidates by default. If people ditched that obligation to vote “just because”, a third party candidate would instantly become viable.
And that is what the Establishment fears most. if ho-hum voters simply went on strike on election Day, the PTB would freak out. But of course, we could never count on you to do that, Marion. Because your head is so far up the Establishment’s rear end you’ve long ago surrendered the ability to think for yourself.
So there: I’ve posted what I would do about the problem. You, on the other hand, prefer to compare me to a cat thrown against a wall and refuse all comment to the issues raised.
But I suspect you haven’t commented on the issues because in your mind, Obama can do or say anything and it would be just fine with you. He could suspend your right to exit the country, and you would find a way to justify that. And that’s what is *particularly* scary about you (in addition to your strange and disturbing tendency to inject sex into almost every discussion). You are a drone of the highest degree. You are a prime example of how and why this country was so easily highjacked by the thugs who now run it. Because you have no expectations of your leaders. Because you demand so little of them. Because you don’t value democracy. Because you simply don’t CARE.
“I don’t like whoever is on the keyboard behind the screename.”
What are you — a CHILD?? Are you six years old, Marion? Why don’t you push yourself away from the keyboard, sit on the bed and wait for your mother to change your diaper.
“What he says, feels, today does not mean he’s going to do that once in office. He’s allowed to change his mind.”
I’m curious, Marion. In your extensive knowledge of U.S. political history, can you think of even one presidential candidate who has supported violations of our Constitution while campaigning — and then turned into a vigorous defender of those rights once in office? Here’s the answer: none. Because until recently, our Consitution was INTACT. Civil liberties are not to be toyed with lightly, and FISA is no joke. And any candidate who is serious enough to threaten our rights while trying to GET our votes will not hesitate to trample them once in office when he doesn’t need our votes. You are fooling yourself if you believe McBama is simply adopting a political ploy to get elected. What is happening is much more sinister and dangerous.
One day, you’ll actually figure that out. Of course, it will be far too late, and you will be roadkill. But I’m sure even dead squirrels may have an epiphany before meeting their Maker.
P.S. — Have you noticed that NO one ever agrees with you on this board? Food for thought.[/quote]
Bravo! She finally said something worth saying and without the whining! AND Marion actually agrees with her! Ha! Fancy that? π
Well, except for the “sinister and dangerous” part, don’t know if Obama’s master plan is quite so dark.
P.S. Except as a professional, her (partypup’s) last post with the ALL CAPS has me a bit concerned…
Partypup, calm down… It’s OK…
July 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM #241637AnonymousGuest[quote=partypup]”If you are real, I wouldn’t want to be a man in ANY type of relationship with you.
I’ve probably said too much of what I think. Sorry.”
Well, you’re half right: you definitely said too much. Doubtful there was any real thinking behind it, though.
And who is talking about being in a relationship with you? For God’s sake, cooperthedog was right: you DO have a narcissistic personality disorder. No one on this board seems to care what you think, and we care even less about sharing a physical space with you.
“Since I think it’s time for a minority president, yes, I’m pleased. SO WHERE’S THE EMBARRASSMENT?”
You’re racist. And you’re intolerant. And if you’re too ignorant to be embarrassed by those qualities, then you’re also pathetically tragic.
“What bugs me about you is your incesstant whining.”
How very Phil Gramm of you. I find it so ironic that you fancy yourself a Democrat. You love to slap labels on people. You love to stereotype and make assumptions based on a sliver of knowledge or facts. You care little for the threat to democracy that we are now seeing from a party that is supposed to jealously guard its survival. You are an enemy of the first amendment, as you have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others.
But yet, you hate McCain because he will continue the “misery”. Marion, you ARE the misery.
Most disturbingly, you expect me and others on this board to suck it up and be satisfied with Obama SIMPLY because he is not McCain. Well, here’s a newsflash: thinking people don’t play that game. Only brain dead dolts adopt your philosophy. But I should hardly be surprised: everything about you — your intolerance, your apathy towards the glaring problems that plague our political system — make it clear that you have no respect for democracy or its survival. You’re far more interested in analyzing the level of someone’s sexual satisfaction — or perhaps getting a good leg wax.
“When you have posted what you are going to do, or can do about the problem. Who is a viable choice-McCain is NOT-and can do this all without coming across as a cat that has just been thrown against a wall and is all wound up, I will take your posts seriously.”
I don’t care if you take my posts seriously. That would be akin to me caring if a gnat shares my views on global warming. It just doesn’t register. Get it?
In your own strange little world you seem to believe that I support McCain. Let me as clear as I can: both candidates are crooks of the highest order.
Unless and until Americans refuse to accept the mediocrity that is presented to them and actively support a third party, we will soon find ourselves slaves. Short of that, a revolution is in order. This doesn’t necessarily require violence.
The first step is to simply not vote for these crooks.
Of course people like you scoff at a third party because it’s not “viable”. You will say that we don’t have the power to elect a third party. But at the very least we have the power NOT to vote for the candidates who have been forced upon us. If enough Americans were persuaded to think, “I will ONLY go to the polls to support the candidate that I am PASSIONATE about”, neither one of these losers would win. It’s not an inconceivable task. It doesn’t even take huge sums of money to get a grass roots movement going. The idea would be: “Don’t waste your time voting if you don’t TRULY believe in the candidate. Just stay home.” Make no mistake: there are HUGE numbers of Dems and Republicans who are only voting for their candidates by default. If people ditched that obligation to vote “just because”, a third party candidate would instantly become viable.
And that is what the Establishment fears most. if ho-hum voters simply went on strike on election Day, the PTB would freak out. But of course, we could never count on you to do that, Marion. Because your head is so far up the Establishment’s rear end you’ve long ago surrendered the ability to think for yourself.
So there: I’ve posted what I would do about the problem. You, on the other hand, prefer to compare me to a cat thrown against a wall and refuse all comment to the issues raised.
But I suspect you haven’t commented on the issues because in your mind, Obama can do or say anything and it would be just fine with you. He could suspend your right to exit the country, and you would find a way to justify that. And that’s what is *particularly* scary about you (in addition to your strange and disturbing tendency to inject sex into almost every discussion). You are a drone of the highest degree. You are a prime example of how and why this country was so easily highjacked by the thugs who now run it. Because you have no expectations of your leaders. Because you demand so little of them. Because you don’t value democracy. Because you simply don’t CARE.
“I don’t like whoever is on the keyboard behind the screename.”
What are you — a CHILD?? Are you six years old, Marion? Why don’t you push yourself away from the keyboard, sit on the bed and wait for your mother to change your diaper.
“What he says, feels, today does not mean he’s going to do that once in office. He’s allowed to change his mind.”
I’m curious, Marion. In your extensive knowledge of U.S. political history, can you think of even one presidential candidate who has supported violations of our Constitution while campaigning — and then turned into a vigorous defender of those rights once in office? Here’s the answer: none. Because until recently, our Consitution was INTACT. Civil liberties are not to be toyed with lightly, and FISA is no joke. And any candidate who is serious enough to threaten our rights while trying to GET our votes will not hesitate to trample them once in office when he doesn’t need our votes. You are fooling yourself if you believe McBama is simply adopting a political ploy to get elected. What is happening is much more sinister and dangerous.
One day, you’ll actually figure that out. Of course, it will be far too late, and you will be roadkill. But I’m sure even dead squirrels may have an epiphany before meeting their Maker.
P.S. — Have you noticed that NO one ever agrees with you on this board? Food for thought.[/quote]
Bravo! She finally said something worth saying and without the whining! AND Marion actually agrees with her! Ha! Fancy that? π
Well, except for the “sinister and dangerous” part, don’t know if Obama’s master plan is quite so dark.
P.S. Except as a professional, her (partypup’s) last post with the ALL CAPS has me a bit concerned…
Partypup, calm down… It’s OK…
July 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM #241690AnonymousGuest[quote=partypup]”If you are real, I wouldn’t want to be a man in ANY type of relationship with you.
I’ve probably said too much of what I think. Sorry.”
Well, you’re half right: you definitely said too much. Doubtful there was any real thinking behind it, though.
And who is talking about being in a relationship with you? For God’s sake, cooperthedog was right: you DO have a narcissistic personality disorder. No one on this board seems to care what you think, and we care even less about sharing a physical space with you.
“Since I think it’s time for a minority president, yes, I’m pleased. SO WHERE’S THE EMBARRASSMENT?”
You’re racist. And you’re intolerant. And if you’re too ignorant to be embarrassed by those qualities, then you’re also pathetically tragic.
“What bugs me about you is your incesstant whining.”
How very Phil Gramm of you. I find it so ironic that you fancy yourself a Democrat. You love to slap labels on people. You love to stereotype and make assumptions based on a sliver of knowledge or facts. You care little for the threat to democracy that we are now seeing from a party that is supposed to jealously guard its survival. You are an enemy of the first amendment, as you have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others.
But yet, you hate McCain because he will continue the “misery”. Marion, you ARE the misery.
Most disturbingly, you expect me and others on this board to suck it up and be satisfied with Obama SIMPLY because he is not McCain. Well, here’s a newsflash: thinking people don’t play that game. Only brain dead dolts adopt your philosophy. But I should hardly be surprised: everything about you — your intolerance, your apathy towards the glaring problems that plague our political system — make it clear that you have no respect for democracy or its survival. You’re far more interested in analyzing the level of someone’s sexual satisfaction — or perhaps getting a good leg wax.
“When you have posted what you are going to do, or can do about the problem. Who is a viable choice-McCain is NOT-and can do this all without coming across as a cat that has just been thrown against a wall and is all wound up, I will take your posts seriously.”
I don’t care if you take my posts seriously. That would be akin to me caring if a gnat shares my views on global warming. It just doesn’t register. Get it?
In your own strange little world you seem to believe that I support McCain. Let me as clear as I can: both candidates are crooks of the highest order.
Unless and until Americans refuse to accept the mediocrity that is presented to them and actively support a third party, we will soon find ourselves slaves. Short of that, a revolution is in order. This doesn’t necessarily require violence.
The first step is to simply not vote for these crooks.
Of course people like you scoff at a third party because it’s not “viable”. You will say that we don’t have the power to elect a third party. But at the very least we have the power NOT to vote for the candidates who have been forced upon us. If enough Americans were persuaded to think, “I will ONLY go to the polls to support the candidate that I am PASSIONATE about”, neither one of these losers would win. It’s not an inconceivable task. It doesn’t even take huge sums of money to get a grass roots movement going. The idea would be: “Don’t waste your time voting if you don’t TRULY believe in the candidate. Just stay home.” Make no mistake: there are HUGE numbers of Dems and Republicans who are only voting for their candidates by default. If people ditched that obligation to vote “just because”, a third party candidate would instantly become viable.
And that is what the Establishment fears most. if ho-hum voters simply went on strike on election Day, the PTB would freak out. But of course, we could never count on you to do that, Marion. Because your head is so far up the Establishment’s rear end you’ve long ago surrendered the ability to think for yourself.
So there: I’ve posted what I would do about the problem. You, on the other hand, prefer to compare me to a cat thrown against a wall and refuse all comment to the issues raised.
But I suspect you haven’t commented on the issues because in your mind, Obama can do or say anything and it would be just fine with you. He could suspend your right to exit the country, and you would find a way to justify that. And that’s what is *particularly* scary about you (in addition to your strange and disturbing tendency to inject sex into almost every discussion). You are a drone of the highest degree. You are a prime example of how and why this country was so easily highjacked by the thugs who now run it. Because you have no expectations of your leaders. Because you demand so little of them. Because you don’t value democracy. Because you simply don’t CARE.
“I don’t like whoever is on the keyboard behind the screename.”
What are you — a CHILD?? Are you six years old, Marion? Why don’t you push yourself away from the keyboard, sit on the bed and wait for your mother to change your diaper.
“What he says, feels, today does not mean he’s going to do that once in office. He’s allowed to change his mind.”
I’m curious, Marion. In your extensive knowledge of U.S. political history, can you think of even one presidential candidate who has supported violations of our Constitution while campaigning — and then turned into a vigorous defender of those rights once in office? Here’s the answer: none. Because until recently, our Consitution was INTACT. Civil liberties are not to be toyed with lightly, and FISA is no joke. And any candidate who is serious enough to threaten our rights while trying to GET our votes will not hesitate to trample them once in office when he doesn’t need our votes. You are fooling yourself if you believe McBama is simply adopting a political ploy to get elected. What is happening is much more sinister and dangerous.
One day, you’ll actually figure that out. Of course, it will be far too late, and you will be roadkill. But I’m sure even dead squirrels may have an epiphany before meeting their Maker.
P.S. — Have you noticed that NO one ever agrees with you on this board? Food for thought.[/quote]
Bravo! She finally said something worth saying and without the whining! AND Marion actually agrees with her! Ha! Fancy that? π
Well, except for the “sinister and dangerous” part, don’t know if Obama’s master plan is quite so dark.
P.S. Except as a professional, her (partypup’s) last post with the ALL CAPS has me a bit concerned…
Partypup, calm down… It’s OK…
July 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM #241694AnonymousGuest[quote=partypup]”If you are real, I wouldn’t want to be a man in ANY type of relationship with you.
I’ve probably said too much of what I think. Sorry.”
Well, you’re half right: you definitely said too much. Doubtful there was any real thinking behind it, though.
And who is talking about being in a relationship with you? For God’s sake, cooperthedog was right: you DO have a narcissistic personality disorder. No one on this board seems to care what you think, and we care even less about sharing a physical space with you.
“Since I think it’s time for a minority president, yes, I’m pleased. SO WHERE’S THE EMBARRASSMENT?”
You’re racist. And you’re intolerant. And if you’re too ignorant to be embarrassed by those qualities, then you’re also pathetically tragic.
“What bugs me about you is your incesstant whining.”
How very Phil Gramm of you. I find it so ironic that you fancy yourself a Democrat. You love to slap labels on people. You love to stereotype and make assumptions based on a sliver of knowledge or facts. You care little for the threat to democracy that we are now seeing from a party that is supposed to jealously guard its survival. You are an enemy of the first amendment, as you have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others.
But yet, you hate McCain because he will continue the “misery”. Marion, you ARE the misery.
Most disturbingly, you expect me and others on this board to suck it up and be satisfied with Obama SIMPLY because he is not McCain. Well, here’s a newsflash: thinking people don’t play that game. Only brain dead dolts adopt your philosophy. But I should hardly be surprised: everything about you — your intolerance, your apathy towards the glaring problems that plague our political system — make it clear that you have no respect for democracy or its survival. You’re far more interested in analyzing the level of someone’s sexual satisfaction — or perhaps getting a good leg wax.
“When you have posted what you are going to do, or can do about the problem. Who is a viable choice-McCain is NOT-and can do this all without coming across as a cat that has just been thrown against a wall and is all wound up, I will take your posts seriously.”
I don’t care if you take my posts seriously. That would be akin to me caring if a gnat shares my views on global warming. It just doesn’t register. Get it?
In your own strange little world you seem to believe that I support McCain. Let me as clear as I can: both candidates are crooks of the highest order.
Unless and until Americans refuse to accept the mediocrity that is presented to them and actively support a third party, we will soon find ourselves slaves. Short of that, a revolution is in order. This doesn’t necessarily require violence.
The first step is to simply not vote for these crooks.
Of course people like you scoff at a third party because it’s not “viable”. You will say that we don’t have the power to elect a third party. But at the very least we have the power NOT to vote for the candidates who have been forced upon us. If enough Americans were persuaded to think, “I will ONLY go to the polls to support the candidate that I am PASSIONATE about”, neither one of these losers would win. It’s not an inconceivable task. It doesn’t even take huge sums of money to get a grass roots movement going. The idea would be: “Don’t waste your time voting if you don’t TRULY believe in the candidate. Just stay home.” Make no mistake: there are HUGE numbers of Dems and Republicans who are only voting for their candidates by default. If people ditched that obligation to vote “just because”, a third party candidate would instantly become viable.
And that is what the Establishment fears most. if ho-hum voters simply went on strike on election Day, the PTB would freak out. But of course, we could never count on you to do that, Marion. Because your head is so far up the Establishment’s rear end you’ve long ago surrendered the ability to think for yourself.
So there: I’ve posted what I would do about the problem. You, on the other hand, prefer to compare me to a cat thrown against a wall and refuse all comment to the issues raised.
But I suspect you haven’t commented on the issues because in your mind, Obama can do or say anything and it would be just fine with you. He could suspend your right to exit the country, and you would find a way to justify that. And that’s what is *particularly* scary about you (in addition to your strange and disturbing tendency to inject sex into almost every discussion). You are a drone of the highest degree. You are a prime example of how and why this country was so easily highjacked by the thugs who now run it. Because you have no expectations of your leaders. Because you demand so little of them. Because you don’t value democracy. Because you simply don’t CARE.
“I don’t like whoever is on the keyboard behind the screename.”
What are you — a CHILD?? Are you six years old, Marion? Why don’t you push yourself away from the keyboard, sit on the bed and wait for your mother to change your diaper.
“What he says, feels, today does not mean he’s going to do that once in office. He’s allowed to change his mind.”
I’m curious, Marion. In your extensive knowledge of U.S. political history, can you think of even one presidential candidate who has supported violations of our Constitution while campaigning — and then turned into a vigorous defender of those rights once in office? Here’s the answer: none. Because until recently, our Consitution was INTACT. Civil liberties are not to be toyed with lightly, and FISA is no joke. And any candidate who is serious enough to threaten our rights while trying to GET our votes will not hesitate to trample them once in office when he doesn’t need our votes. You are fooling yourself if you believe McBama is simply adopting a political ploy to get elected. What is happening is much more sinister and dangerous.
One day, you’ll actually figure that out. Of course, it will be far too late, and you will be roadkill. But I’m sure even dead squirrels may have an epiphany before meeting their Maker.
P.S. — Have you noticed that NO one ever agrees with you on this board? Food for thought.[/quote]
Bravo! She finally said something worth saying and without the whining! AND Marion actually agrees with her! Ha! Fancy that? π
Well, except for the “sinister and dangerous” part, don’t know if Obama’s master plan is quite so dark.
P.S. Except as a professional, her (partypup’s) last post with the ALL CAPS has me a bit concerned…
Partypup, calm down… It’s OK…
July 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM #241497AnonymousGuestO…M….Gosh! Even though I’m now almost convinced she’s about to go over the deep end, I AGREE! Hey, yey, yey!
Hot Damn! π
July 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM #241633AnonymousGuestO…M….Gosh! Even though I’m now almost convinced she’s about to go over the deep end, I AGREE! Hey, yey, yey!
Hot Damn! π
July 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM #241642AnonymousGuestO…M….Gosh! Even though I’m now almost convinced she’s about to go over the deep end, I AGREE! Hey, yey, yey!
Hot Damn! π
July 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM #241695AnonymousGuestO…M….Gosh! Even though I’m now almost convinced she’s about to go over the deep end, I AGREE! Hey, yey, yey!
Hot Damn! π
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