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June 6, 2007 at 8:44 AM #57046June 6, 2007 at 8:44 AM #57069drunkleParticipant
Oh, quit being so narrow-minded, cyphire. You libs proclaim your views on ‘Bush being an idiot,’ ‘Drive a Prius before you heat us,’ etc. We conservatives proclaim our views on the primacy of Christianity. What’s the difference?I’m willing to tolerate your silly views on politics because you have worthwhile perspectives on real estate and the economy. Extend us conservatives with defensible perspectives on real estate and economy the same courtesy, please.
narrow-minded…
btw, there’s history, evidence, fact behind the claims that bush is an idiot and that temps are rising.
not all conservatives are bushtians.
June 6, 2007 at 9:09 AM #57066(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantDid Bush drop his shoe ? Was the dropping of his shoe caused by global warming ? Was the fetus who would grow to be the woman who was going to invent the ideal clean and renewable energy source and avert global catastrophy aborted prior to birth ?
Who cares ?
This thread started in the RE portion of the site. We should start another off-topic thread if you want to debate politics, religion and moral issues.June 6, 2007 at 9:09 AM #57089(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantDid Bush drop his shoe ? Was the dropping of his shoe caused by global warming ? Was the fetus who would grow to be the woman who was going to invent the ideal clean and renewable energy source and avert global catastrophy aborted prior to birth ?
Who cares ?
This thread started in the RE portion of the site. We should start another off-topic thread if you want to debate politics, religion and moral issues.June 6, 2007 at 9:28 AM #57076lostkittyParticipant"Seriously – I'm not against religion – people can believe anything they want – I'm against people not keeping it to themselves (They are starting to scare me). As it happens I don't profess that Harry Potter is god, but if I did I would keep it to myself. "
They are scaring me too. I know many a family that will not even allow their children to read Harry Potter because of the 'dark element' within. The Devil is somehow lurking between those pages and going to turn their children into monsters. Seems like a control issue.
For those always asking that the topics stay on RE – I think you might have learned from being around here so long that the topics are inseperable. Likewise, one cannot comment on the Tulip bubble without discussing the social issues surrounding and augmenting it, and the social issues which sped up and accompanied the crash afterwards.
June 6, 2007 at 9:28 AM #57099lostkittyParticipant"Seriously – I'm not against religion – people can believe anything they want – I'm against people not keeping it to themselves (They are starting to scare me). As it happens I don't profess that Harry Potter is god, but if I did I would keep it to myself. "
They are scaring me too. I know many a family that will not even allow their children to read Harry Potter because of the 'dark element' within. The Devil is somehow lurking between those pages and going to turn their children into monsters. Seems like a control issue.
For those always asking that the topics stay on RE – I think you might have learned from being around here so long that the topics are inseperable. Likewise, one cannot comment on the Tulip bubble without discussing the social issues surrounding and augmenting it, and the social issues which sped up and accompanied the crash afterwards.
June 6, 2007 at 9:53 AM #57084(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantIt is perfectly acceptable to have non=-RE discussions. This site has several forums in different categories to accommodate this.
I am simply suggesting that we could separate discussions on the financial impact of Tulipmania from the impact of the intelligence of Pope Urban VIII on the outcome of the Thirty Years’ War.
June 6, 2007 at 9:53 AM #57107(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantIt is perfectly acceptable to have non=-RE discussions. This site has several forums in different categories to accommodate this.
I am simply suggesting that we could separate discussions on the financial impact of Tulipmania from the impact of the intelligence of Pope Urban VIII on the outcome of the Thirty Years’ War.
June 6, 2007 at 9:54 AM #57086Ash HousewaresParticipantGetting back to the “nature vs nurture” thing, I have two cousins, both adopted by my aunt/uncle at the same time, when both were very young. The two cousins are not biologically related. One is very outgoing and participates in some risky behavior. The other is extremely quite and is working her way through college.
This is as close to a “scientific” trial as I think you can get without examining data on thousands of people. You have two children both adopted early on, with drastically different outcomes.
June 6, 2007 at 9:54 AM #57109Ash HousewaresParticipantGetting back to the “nature vs nurture” thing, I have two cousins, both adopted by my aunt/uncle at the same time, when both were very young. The two cousins are not biologically related. One is very outgoing and participates in some risky behavior. The other is extremely quite and is working her way through college.
This is as close to a “scientific” trial as I think you can get without examining data on thousands of people. You have two children both adopted early on, with drastically different outcomes.
June 6, 2007 at 10:10 AM #57092(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantI think that Pope Urban VIII’s apostolic uncle had more impact on him than his brother. This early influence is what propelled Pope Urban VIII and ultimately led to him becoming Pope. His actions and policies contributed to the Tulipmania bubble.
Being a bit dim-witted (he once almost choked to death on Communion, which he often snacked on as he watched sporting events on his couch), the Pope’s misguided policy’s aimed at extended the power and reach of Italy and the Church and his call to Galileo to recant his discoveries inadvertantly led to a long and protracted struggle, which lasted thirty years, and is known coincidentally as the Thirty Years’ War.
The struggle of the Thirty Years’ War impacted continental Eurpope’s supply of tulip bulbs. Also, the policies of the Vatican, which promoted speculation in floral goods, also contributed, as did a global glut of fertilizer which chased more and more speculative floral products.
June 6, 2007 at 10:10 AM #57115(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantI think that Pope Urban VIII’s apostolic uncle had more impact on him than his brother. This early influence is what propelled Pope Urban VIII and ultimately led to him becoming Pope. His actions and policies contributed to the Tulipmania bubble.
Being a bit dim-witted (he once almost choked to death on Communion, which he often snacked on as he watched sporting events on his couch), the Pope’s misguided policy’s aimed at extended the power and reach of Italy and the Church and his call to Galileo to recant his discoveries inadvertantly led to a long and protracted struggle, which lasted thirty years, and is known coincidentally as the Thirty Years’ War.
The struggle of the Thirty Years’ War impacted continental Eurpope’s supply of tulip bulbs. Also, the policies of the Vatican, which promoted speculation in floral goods, also contributed, as did a global glut of fertilizer which chased more and more speculative floral products.
June 6, 2007 at 10:34 AM #57105NotCrankyParticipantFormer,
I think sarcasm should not be allowed by anyone but me. Go hi-jack your own thread. Enough of us already hi-jacked this one as you noted.
The derailing started innocently enough with discussion of the quality of schools,which in my opinion is very RE related. A few personal attacks and we were off to the races. It was fun for some of us. and educational for JG. So if you don’t like having fun go somewhere else!Seriously I do feel guilty about getting way off topic. What else am I supposed to feel I am a former Catholic?
For the record I did not say I am a better Christian than JG.I am not a Christian. I just think he has one of the least Christian outlooks on the blog and yet he is the most fervently supportive of religion and even then probably only his, or the ones that a small percentage of republicrats adhere to.
By the way Former I appreciate how you offered Latesummer an olive branch a couple of days ago. I suppose I should start a new Thread for that too?lol
June 6, 2007 at 10:34 AM #57126NotCrankyParticipantFormer,
I think sarcasm should not be allowed by anyone but me. Go hi-jack your own thread. Enough of us already hi-jacked this one as you noted.
The derailing started innocently enough with discussion of the quality of schools,which in my opinion is very RE related. A few personal attacks and we were off to the races. It was fun for some of us. and educational for JG. So if you don’t like having fun go somewhere else!Seriously I do feel guilty about getting way off topic. What else am I supposed to feel I am a former Catholic?
For the record I did not say I am a better Christian than JG.I am not a Christian. I just think he has one of the least Christian outlooks on the blog and yet he is the most fervently supportive of religion and even then probably only his, or the ones that a small percentage of republicrats adhere to.
By the way Former I appreciate how you offered Latesummer an olive branch a couple of days ago. I suppose I should start a new Thread for that too?lol
June 6, 2007 at 10:40 AM #57108AnonymousGuestOh, quit holding your breath and being a baby, FSD. Life, or threads, do not always move as you want them to, or insist that they do.
And, poke fun of your own religious guy — Harry Potter, probably, like cyphire — not mine.
By the way, in Catholicism, ‘Communion’ is the act; ‘Body of Christ’ is the object (wafer).
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