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Sometimes the judgment here and the lack of compassion is astounding to me. That one would ever use terms like poor people and rich people makes me sad, as we are all, underneath it, people.

There is no lack of compassion, but there is understanding beyond the sympathy. I have tried to help people who get themselves in deep (not only financially). It almost wiped me out and it was extremely exhausting. It taught me that sometimes people have to go through the fire to finally learn. They don’t learn when they are continually ‘rescued’. I now only engage in helping when I see them really commit to getting out of trouble and in more than just words.

As for being abused, just about everybody has their ghosts, including me. I have aired a few of mine on this forum.. no need to go into them at this time. In my opinion, your ghosts are where you started from. If it 20 years later, you really don’t have much of an excuse. What makes a person, is the difference from where they started from to where they are now. I am not talking only financially when I say that.

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There is no lack of compassion, but there is understanding beyond the sympathy.

I wouldn’t say that.

I’m currently on the tail-end of a two year project to eliminate all of my personal debt.

And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

Edit: I’ll add that I’m even a sob story. My debt was exclusively from emergency use while unemployed, dental work (that could not be postponed) and getting ripped of by an ex-girlfriend.

I’m still accountable and a better person for sacrificing to work it all off.

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There is no lack of compassion, but there is understanding beyond the sympathy.

I wouldn’t say that.

I’m currently on the tail-end of a two year project to eliminate all of my personal debt.

And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

Edit: I’ll add that I’m even a sob story. My debt was exclusively from emergency use while unemployed, dental work (that could not be postponed) and getting ripped of by an ex-girlfriend.

I’m still accountable and a better person for sacrificing to work it all off.

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There is no lack of compassion, but there is understanding beyond the sympathy.

I wouldn’t say that.

I’m currently on the tail-end of a two year project to eliminate all of my personal debt.

And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

Edit: I’ll add that I’m even a sob story. My debt was exclusively from emergency use while unemployed, dental work (that could not be postponed) and getting ripped of by an ex-girlfriend.

I’m still accountable and a better person for sacrificing to work it all off.

[kewp]

There is no lack of compassion, but there is understanding beyond the sympathy.

I wouldn’t say that.

I’m currently on the tail-end of a two year project to eliminate all of my personal debt.

And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

Edit: I’ll add that I’m even a sob story. My debt was exclusively from emergency use while unemployed, dental work (that could not be postponed) and getting ripped of by an ex-girlfriend.

I’m still accountable and a better person for sacrificing to work it all off.

[kewp]

There is no lack of compassion, but there is understanding beyond the sympathy.

I wouldn’t say that.

I’m currently on the tail-end of a two year project to eliminate all of my personal debt.

And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

Edit: I’ll add that I’m even a sob story. My debt was exclusively from emergency use while unemployed, dental work (that could not be postponed) and getting ripped of by an ex-girlfriend.

I’m still accountable and a better person for sacrificing to work it all off.

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And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

In a way, that is exactly what I am saying.. I understand what people are going through when they try to straighten their lives. That is the sympathy and compassion. But the understanding is emphasized in your 2nd and last statements. The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

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And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

In a way, that is exactly what I am saying.. I understand what people are going through when they try to straighten their lives. That is the sympathy and compassion. But the understanding is emphasized in your 2nd and last statements. The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

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@kewp
And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

In a way, that is exactly what I am saying.. I understand what people are going through when they try to straighten their lives. That is the sympathy and compassion. But the understanding is emphasized in your 2nd and last statements. The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

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@kewp
And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

In a way, that is exactly what I am saying.. I understand what people are going through when they try to straighten their lives. That is the sympathy and compassion. But the understanding is emphasized in your 2nd and last statements. The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

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@kewp
And I’m *much* better person for it. If I won the lottery or one of my rich friends bailed me out I really think I would ultimately be worse off. The worst thing anyone can have is a sense of entitlement.

In a way, that is exactly what I am saying.. I understand what people are going through when they try to straighten their lives. That is the sympathy and compassion. But the understanding is emphasized in your 2nd and last statements. The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

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The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

Exactly.

Part of the reason I accumulated so much debt is that I wasn’t saving for a rainy day in the first place. And put myself in a position to be taken advantage of by friends, girls or otherwise. I’ve permanently rectified both issues since then :).

I consider myself lucky that I’ve learned my life lessons early. When I read these stories about folks in their 40’s and 50’s and bankrupt, I just shake my head. I can’t even imagine having to start over that late in life.

What I have *no* sympathy for is the folks that have ruined themselves through over-consumption. McMansions, SUV’s, vacations, big TV’s, etc. I say bring back debtors prisons for these people.

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The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

Exactly.

Part of the reason I accumulated so much debt is that I wasn’t saving for a rainy day in the first place. And put myself in a position to be taken advantage of by friends, girls or otherwise. I’ve permanently rectified both issues since then :).

I consider myself lucky that I’ve learned my life lessons early. When I read these stories about folks in their 40’s and 50’s and bankrupt, I just shake my head. I can’t even imagine having to start over that late in life.

What I have *no* sympathy for is the folks that have ruined themselves through over-consumption. McMansions, SUV’s, vacations, big TV’s, etc. I say bring back debtors prisons for these people.

[kewp]

The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

Exactly.

Part of the reason I accumulated so much debt is that I wasn’t saving for a rainy day in the first place. And put myself in a position to be taken advantage of by friends, girls or otherwise. I’ve permanently rectified both issues since then :).

I consider myself lucky that I’ve learned my life lessons early. When I read these stories about folks in their 40’s and 50’s and bankrupt, I just shake my head. I can’t even imagine having to start over that late in life.

What I have *no* sympathy for is the folks that have ruined themselves through over-consumption. McMansions, SUV’s, vacations, big TV’s, etc. I say bring back debtors prisons for these people.

[kewp]

The understanding is that sometimes people have to work out the problem on their own instead of being bailed out, otherwise the problem will just repeat.

Exactly.

Part of the reason I accumulated so much debt is that I wasn’t saving for a rainy day in the first place. And put myself in a position to be taken advantage of by friends, girls or otherwise. I’ve permanently rectified both issues since then :).

I consider myself lucky that I’ve learned my life lessons early. When I read these stories about folks in their 40’s and 50’s and bankrupt, I just shake my head. I can’t even imagine having to start over that late in life.

What I have *no* sympathy for is the folks that have ruined themselves through over-consumption. McMansions, SUV’s, vacations, big TV’s, etc. I say bring back debtors prisons for these people.

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