Lord of the Flies

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper][
But here in the states, the undesirable traits mentioned by Mr. Hastings are readily apparent in increasingly large numbers of middle class, and even well-off children. U.S. children in all socioeconomic classes are spoiled, abusive toward everyone including adults and the elderly, have an exaggerated sense that they are treated unfairly, believe themselves deserving of unearned praise, recognition, and privileges, don’t believe that rules apply to them, and aren’t studying and learning at anything close to an age-appropriate level. More and more hate crimes of a violent nature are being perpetrated by teenagers, and even preteens, both male and female..[/quote]

Looks like the non-nanny state, middle class came in an joined the party. Or maybe even incited and exacerbated a volatile situation for the excitement of a violent shopping spree. Must be that liberal dogma at work. Years of coddling with entitlements coupled with the mind numbing brainwashing of multi-culturalism and political correctness caused these outbursts. The answer is the opposite of liberal dogma, which would be the jockey’s whip of privation coupled with the jackboot of state force, that needs to be employed to domesticate the masses. haha

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/11/ukriots.accused/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Before they started appearing in court, most people assumed London’s rioters and looters were unemployed youths with no hope and no future.
So there was much surprise when details of the accused began to emerge, and they included some from wealthy backgrounds or with good jobs.
Those passing through London’s courtrooms on Tuesday and Wednesday — some courts sat overnight to cope with the numbers — have included a teaching assistant, a lifeguard, a postman, a chef, a charity worker, a millionaire’s daughter and an 11-year-old boy, newspapers reported.
The tabloid Sun newspaper wrote in its opinion page on Thursday of the “sick” society described by Prime Minister David Cameron: “The sickness starts on welfare-addicted estates where feckless parents let children run wild.”
But its front-page headline told a different story about the accused: “Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire’s daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11.”
The Daily Mail reported: “While the trouble has been largely blamed on feral teenagers, many of those paraded before the courts yesterday led apparently respectable lives.”
The upmarket Daily Telegraph devoted its page three to the case of Laura Johnson, the 19-year-old daughter of a company director who pleaded not guilty to stealing £5,000 ($8,000) of electrical goods, under the headline: “Girl who has it all is accused of theft.”
The newspaper said she lived in a converted farmhouse in the leafy London suburb of Orpington, Kent, with extensive grounds and a tennis court, had studied at one of the best-performing state schools in the country and now attends the University of Exeter.
Reporter Andrew Gilligan wrote in the Daily Telegraph: “Here in court, as David Cameron condemned the ‘sickness’ in parts of British society, we saw clearly, for the first time, the face of the riot: stripped of its hoods and masks, dressed in white prison T-shirts and handcuffed to burly security guards.
“It was rather different from the one we had been expecting.”
He added of the defendants at Highbury Magistrates Court in north London: “Most were teenagers or in their early twenties, but a surprising number were older.
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?

[Anonymous]

Not surprised at all.

They were doing it for the thrill, nothing more. They think that being part of a mob means there will be no consequences – the numbers give them immunity.

I get a laugh out of how people try to read deeper meanings into all of this. It may start with a small group who claim to be “disenfranchised” but then anyone might, and will, jump in. Many people easily get caught up in the excitement of the moment and quickly forget about values when part of a mob. There’s not much more too it.

[Anonymous]

Not surprised at all.

They were doing it for the thrill, nothing more. They think that being part of a mob means there will be no consequences – the numbers give them immunity.

I get a laugh out of how people try to read deeper meanings into all of this. It may start with a small group who claim to be “disenfranchised” but then anyone might, and will, jump in. Many people easily get caught up in the excitement of the moment and quickly forget about values when part of a mob. There’s not much more too it.

[Anonymous]

Not surprised at all.

They were doing it for the thrill, nothing more. They think that being part of a mob means there will be no consequences – the numbers give them immunity.

I get a laugh out of how people try to read deeper meanings into all of this. It may start with a small group who claim to be “disenfranchised” but then anyone might, and will, jump in. Many people easily get caught up in the excitement of the moment and quickly forget about values when part of a mob. There’s not much more too it.

[Anonymous]

Not surprised at all.

They were doing it for the thrill, nothing more. They think that being part of a mob means there will be no consequences – the numbers give them immunity.

I get a laugh out of how people try to read deeper meanings into all of this. It may start with a small group who claim to be “disenfranchised” but then anyone might, and will, jump in. Many people easily get caught up in the excitement of the moment and quickly forget about values when part of a mob. There’s not much more too it.

[Anonymous]

Not surprised at all.

They were doing it for the thrill, nothing more. They think that being part of a mob means there will be no consequences – the numbers give them immunity.

I get a laugh out of how people try to read deeper meanings into all of this. It may start with a small group who claim to be “disenfranchised” but then anyone might, and will, jump in. Many people easily get caught up in the excitement of the moment and quickly forget about values when part of a mob. There’s not much more too it.

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?[/quote]

Admittedly, So was I, at first.

What’s really disturbing about this, is that, it appears there was a shooting that sparked it with the typical lower class response(smashing windows, huffing and puffing, etc – but then, the middle class came in and used it for FREE STUFF. That’s SICK!

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?[/quote]

Admittedly, So was I, at first.

What’s really disturbing about this, is that, it appears there was a shooting that sparked it with the typical lower class response(smashing windows, huffing and puffing, etc – but then, the middle class came in and used it for FREE STUFF. That’s SICK!

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?[/quote]

Admittedly, So was I, at first.

What’s really disturbing about this, is that, it appears there was a shooting that sparked it with the typical lower class response(smashing windows, huffing and puffing, etc – but then, the middle class came in and used it for FREE STUFF. That’s SICK!

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Arraya]
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”[/quote]

Arraya: And therein lies the double danger of assumption and the echo-chamber. I’ll admit I had bought wholely into the idea that these were “welfare state” kids and I was DEAD WRONG.

Wow. That’s a wake-up call, huh?[/quote]

Admittedly, So was I, at first.

What’s really disturbing about this, is that, it appears there was a shooting that sparked it with the typical lower class response(smashing windows, huffing and puffing, etc – but then, the middle class came in and used it for FREE STUFF. That’s SICK!

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