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December 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM #645410December 23, 2010 at 3:53 PM #644348
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ParticipantFunny you mention that student loan program.
I have two very good sources who are looking for college loans presently and the are actually very frustrated with that process compared to what it used to be when their older siblings obtained loans.
Are you currently looking for a student loan?
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My concern is that those who are yearning for increased govt policy with regards to private institutions are very much convinced that it will be run better, with no problems, and no corruption.
I am not.
Obama himself believes there are billions and billions in medicare waste and fraud. Yet that is a govt program correct? So the answer is to slash and burn it and replace it with another govt run health program and this program will be the largest ever.
I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?
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Yes I understand banks were charging higher rates then what the govt charged the banks. That is what they do. That is what mortgage lenders do. That is what servicing orgs do. This is how they make their money. They underwrite and do the legwork for the loan as well. Should they not make any money for doing that?
Even if the example works, where do you stop it? You see what I am saying? If you want to, if you really want to, you can take it pretty damn far and eliminate alot of private enterprise. You can say well it depends on the size of the organization and such… In the end though it is somewhat arbitrary and I am not sure it was the original intent for our govt.
Especially when I am told it is all for my own good.
December 23, 2010 at 3:53 PM #644419SD Realtor
ParticipantFunny you mention that student loan program.
I have two very good sources who are looking for college loans presently and the are actually very frustrated with that process compared to what it used to be when their older siblings obtained loans.
Are you currently looking for a student loan?
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My concern is that those who are yearning for increased govt policy with regards to private institutions are very much convinced that it will be run better, with no problems, and no corruption.
I am not.
Obama himself believes there are billions and billions in medicare waste and fraud. Yet that is a govt program correct? So the answer is to slash and burn it and replace it with another govt run health program and this program will be the largest ever.
I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?
*********************
Yes I understand banks were charging higher rates then what the govt charged the banks. That is what they do. That is what mortgage lenders do. That is what servicing orgs do. This is how they make their money. They underwrite and do the legwork for the loan as well. Should they not make any money for doing that?
Even if the example works, where do you stop it? You see what I am saying? If you want to, if you really want to, you can take it pretty damn far and eliminate alot of private enterprise. You can say well it depends on the size of the organization and such… In the end though it is somewhat arbitrary and I am not sure it was the original intent for our govt.
Especially when I am told it is all for my own good.
December 23, 2010 at 3:53 PM #644998SD Realtor
ParticipantFunny you mention that student loan program.
I have two very good sources who are looking for college loans presently and the are actually very frustrated with that process compared to what it used to be when their older siblings obtained loans.
Are you currently looking for a student loan?
***********************************
My concern is that those who are yearning for increased govt policy with regards to private institutions are very much convinced that it will be run better, with no problems, and no corruption.
I am not.
Obama himself believes there are billions and billions in medicare waste and fraud. Yet that is a govt program correct? So the answer is to slash and burn it and replace it with another govt run health program and this program will be the largest ever.
I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?
*********************
Yes I understand banks were charging higher rates then what the govt charged the banks. That is what they do. That is what mortgage lenders do. That is what servicing orgs do. This is how they make their money. They underwrite and do the legwork for the loan as well. Should they not make any money for doing that?
Even if the example works, where do you stop it? You see what I am saying? If you want to, if you really want to, you can take it pretty damn far and eliminate alot of private enterprise. You can say well it depends on the size of the organization and such… In the end though it is somewhat arbitrary and I am not sure it was the original intent for our govt.
Especially when I am told it is all for my own good.
December 23, 2010 at 3:53 PM #645135SD Realtor
ParticipantFunny you mention that student loan program.
I have two very good sources who are looking for college loans presently and the are actually very frustrated with that process compared to what it used to be when their older siblings obtained loans.
Are you currently looking for a student loan?
***********************************
My concern is that those who are yearning for increased govt policy with regards to private institutions are very much convinced that it will be run better, with no problems, and no corruption.
I am not.
Obama himself believes there are billions and billions in medicare waste and fraud. Yet that is a govt program correct? So the answer is to slash and burn it and replace it with another govt run health program and this program will be the largest ever.
I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?
*********************
Yes I understand banks were charging higher rates then what the govt charged the banks. That is what they do. That is what mortgage lenders do. That is what servicing orgs do. This is how they make their money. They underwrite and do the legwork for the loan as well. Should they not make any money for doing that?
Even if the example works, where do you stop it? You see what I am saying? If you want to, if you really want to, you can take it pretty damn far and eliminate alot of private enterprise. You can say well it depends on the size of the organization and such… In the end though it is somewhat arbitrary and I am not sure it was the original intent for our govt.
Especially when I am told it is all for my own good.
December 23, 2010 at 3:53 PM #645457SD Realtor
ParticipantFunny you mention that student loan program.
I have two very good sources who are looking for college loans presently and the are actually very frustrated with that process compared to what it used to be when their older siblings obtained loans.
Are you currently looking for a student loan?
***********************************
My concern is that those who are yearning for increased govt policy with regards to private institutions are very much convinced that it will be run better, with no problems, and no corruption.
I am not.
Obama himself believes there are billions and billions in medicare waste and fraud. Yet that is a govt program correct? So the answer is to slash and burn it and replace it with another govt run health program and this program will be the largest ever.
I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?
*********************
Yes I understand banks were charging higher rates then what the govt charged the banks. That is what they do. That is what mortgage lenders do. That is what servicing orgs do. This is how they make their money. They underwrite and do the legwork for the loan as well. Should they not make any money for doing that?
Even if the example works, where do you stop it? You see what I am saying? If you want to, if you really want to, you can take it pretty damn far and eliminate alot of private enterprise. You can say well it depends on the size of the organization and such… In the end though it is somewhat arbitrary and I am not sure it was the original intent for our govt.
Especially when I am told it is all for my own good.
December 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM #644353SD Realtor
ParticipantCAR how the heck are we the decision makers in any of this?
Does the govt give you a say? Did you get a vote for GM? Did you even know about other countries the govt helps? Do you even have a clue what orgs the fed or treasury has helped?
Did you have a say in the vote where the GOVT decided to bailout all these rich aholes because the GOVT told us the alternative would be a catastrophic collapse?
Yes I agree with your sarcasm about how well private industry ran things. So the govt didnt have clue what was happening? Or what the outcome would be?
Please tell me how I will be a decision maker as the govt continues to provide more regulation and increases their reach.
December 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM #644424SD Realtor
ParticipantCAR how the heck are we the decision makers in any of this?
Does the govt give you a say? Did you get a vote for GM? Did you even know about other countries the govt helps? Do you even have a clue what orgs the fed or treasury has helped?
Did you have a say in the vote where the GOVT decided to bailout all these rich aholes because the GOVT told us the alternative would be a catastrophic collapse?
Yes I agree with your sarcasm about how well private industry ran things. So the govt didnt have clue what was happening? Or what the outcome would be?
Please tell me how I will be a decision maker as the govt continues to provide more regulation and increases their reach.
December 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM #645003SD Realtor
ParticipantCAR how the heck are we the decision makers in any of this?
Does the govt give you a say? Did you get a vote for GM? Did you even know about other countries the govt helps? Do you even have a clue what orgs the fed or treasury has helped?
Did you have a say in the vote where the GOVT decided to bailout all these rich aholes because the GOVT told us the alternative would be a catastrophic collapse?
Yes I agree with your sarcasm about how well private industry ran things. So the govt didnt have clue what was happening? Or what the outcome would be?
Please tell me how I will be a decision maker as the govt continues to provide more regulation and increases their reach.
December 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM #645140SD Realtor
ParticipantCAR how the heck are we the decision makers in any of this?
Does the govt give you a say? Did you get a vote for GM? Did you even know about other countries the govt helps? Do you even have a clue what orgs the fed or treasury has helped?
Did you have a say in the vote where the GOVT decided to bailout all these rich aholes because the GOVT told us the alternative would be a catastrophic collapse?
Yes I agree with your sarcasm about how well private industry ran things. So the govt didnt have clue what was happening? Or what the outcome would be?
Please tell me how I will be a decision maker as the govt continues to provide more regulation and increases their reach.
December 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM #645462SD Realtor
ParticipantCAR how the heck are we the decision makers in any of this?
Does the govt give you a say? Did you get a vote for GM? Did you even know about other countries the govt helps? Do you even have a clue what orgs the fed or treasury has helped?
Did you have a say in the vote where the GOVT decided to bailout all these rich aholes because the GOVT told us the alternative would be a catastrophic collapse?
Yes I agree with your sarcasm about how well private industry ran things. So the govt didnt have clue what was happening? Or what the outcome would be?
Please tell me how I will be a decision maker as the govt continues to provide more regulation and increases their reach.
December 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM #644412permabear
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?[/quote]
I stopped worry about the reach of government once I learned that our attack… er, defense… budget is bigger than the rest of the world’s combined.
We send troops overseas against the will of our Constitution by naming our invasions “missions” rather than wars, enabling us to sidestep our checks and balances. Then we use our wonderful Executive branch dictatorship to strongarm other countries into undermining key peace treaties and environmental regulations, so our corporations can profit at the world’s expense.
But you’re right, those pesky social programs that help people are the big problem. As long as we focus on killing them, it’s ok.
December 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM #644484permabear
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?[/quote]
I stopped worry about the reach of government once I learned that our attack… er, defense… budget is bigger than the rest of the world’s combined.
We send troops overseas against the will of our Constitution by naming our invasions “missions” rather than wars, enabling us to sidestep our checks and balances. Then we use our wonderful Executive branch dictatorship to strongarm other countries into undermining key peace treaties and environmental regulations, so our corporations can profit at the world’s expense.
But you’re right, those pesky social programs that help people are the big problem. As long as we focus on killing them, it’s ok.
December 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM #645063permabear
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?[/quote]
I stopped worry about the reach of government once I learned that our attack… er, defense… budget is bigger than the rest of the world’s combined.
We send troops overseas against the will of our Constitution by naming our invasions “missions” rather than wars, enabling us to sidestep our checks and balances. Then we use our wonderful Executive branch dictatorship to strongarm other countries into undermining key peace treaties and environmental regulations, so our corporations can profit at the world’s expense.
But you’re right, those pesky social programs that help people are the big problem. As long as we focus on killing them, it’s ok.
December 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM #645200permabear
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I don’t want to bang on health care. I guess I am just kind of awed by the reach of the govt. When does it stop and where does it end?[/quote]
I stopped worry about the reach of government once I learned that our attack… er, defense… budget is bigger than the rest of the world’s combined.
We send troops overseas against the will of our Constitution by naming our invasions “missions” rather than wars, enabling us to sidestep our checks and balances. Then we use our wonderful Executive branch dictatorship to strongarm other countries into undermining key peace treaties and environmental regulations, so our corporations can profit at the world’s expense.
But you’re right, those pesky social programs that help people are the big problem. As long as we focus on killing them, it’s ok.
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