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  • January 21, 2010 at 4:39 PM #505221
    NotCranky
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    Amnesty is an interesting term. For all practical purposes these,mostly workers, are invited here. For political reasons it is not admitted that the border is deliberately semi- porous where Mexicans are concerned. If Jose is good enough to come up here and do unhealthy shit work and participate in Federal nation building agendas(including reproducing) with which the state of California is in cahoots, his kid is as deserving as any. I understand people feeling they are hurt by it but I don’t understand for a minute any desire to direct the backlash at Jose himself.

    Bringing Juanita from Paraguay into it is too much. Not because it test the limits of someone’s generosity. If there was anyone who could threaten to make that kind of equality nearly universal he would be killed. At least Jose vs. Joe is somewhat real.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM #504335
    Anonymous
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    If you don’t like paying for Jose’s kid, then why are you OK with paying for Joe’s kid?

    Lots of people without kids of their own like to make the “why should I pay taxes so your kid can go to school?” argument. (I personally never agreed with this, even before I had kids).

    The common argument for public education is that these kids will eventually become adults in the community. And an educated population benefits everyone.

    Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.

    Regrettably, I agree that we can’t afford to help Juanita (outside of personal charity).

    January 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM #504478
    Anonymous
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    If you don’t like paying for Jose’s kid, then why are you OK with paying for Joe’s kid?

    Lots of people without kids of their own like to make the “why should I pay taxes so your kid can go to school?” argument. (I personally never agreed with this, even before I had kids).

    The common argument for public education is that these kids will eventually become adults in the community. And an educated population benefits everyone.

    Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.

    Regrettably, I agree that we can’t afford to help Juanita (outside of personal charity).

    January 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM #504879
    Anonymous
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    If you don’t like paying for Jose’s kid, then why are you OK with paying for Joe’s kid?

    Lots of people without kids of their own like to make the “why should I pay taxes so your kid can go to school?” argument. (I personally never agreed with this, even before I had kids).

    The common argument for public education is that these kids will eventually become adults in the community. And an educated population benefits everyone.

    Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.

    Regrettably, I agree that we can’t afford to help Juanita (outside of personal charity).

    January 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM #504972
    Anonymous
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    If you don’t like paying for Jose’s kid, then why are you OK with paying for Joe’s kid?

    Lots of people without kids of their own like to make the “why should I pay taxes so your kid can go to school?” argument. (I personally never agreed with this, even before I had kids).

    The common argument for public education is that these kids will eventually become adults in the community. And an educated population benefits everyone.

    Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.

    Regrettably, I agree that we can’t afford to help Juanita (outside of personal charity).

    January 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM #505225
    Anonymous
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    If you don’t like paying for Jose’s kid, then why are you OK with paying for Joe’s kid?

    Lots of people without kids of their own like to make the “why should I pay taxes so your kid can go to school?” argument. (I personally never agreed with this, even before I had kids).

    The common argument for public education is that these kids will eventually become adults in the community. And an educated population benefits everyone.

    Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.

    Regrettably, I agree that we can’t afford to help Juanita (outside of personal charity).

    January 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM #504345
    KSMountain
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    [quote=Russell]If there was anyone who could threaten to make that kind of equality nearly universal he would be killed.[/quote]

    Interesting observation.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM #504487
    KSMountain
    Participant

    [quote=Russell]If there was anyone who could threaten to make that kind of equality nearly universal he would be killed.[/quote]

    Interesting observation.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM #504889
    KSMountain
    Participant

    [quote=Russell]If there was anyone who could threaten to make that kind of equality nearly universal he would be killed.[/quote]

    Interesting observation.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM #504982
    KSMountain
    Participant

    [quote=Russell]If there was anyone who could threaten to make that kind of equality nearly universal he would be killed.[/quote]

    Interesting observation.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM #505235
    KSMountain
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    [quote=Russell]If there was anyone who could threaten to make that kind of equality nearly universal he would be killed.[/quote]

    Interesting observation.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM #504350
    KSMountain
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    [quote=pri_dk]Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.[/quote]
    Now *that* is a persuasive argument, to me.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM #504492
    KSMountain
    Participant

    [quote=pri_dk]Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.[/quote]
    Now *that* is a persuasive argument, to me.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM #504894
    KSMountain
    Participant

    [quote=pri_dk]Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.[/quote]
    Now *that* is a persuasive argument, to me.

    January 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM #504987
    KSMountain
    Participant

    [quote=pri_dk]Both Joe’s kids and Jose’s kids are going to end up in US communities as adults (like it or not). So perhaps we should educate them both.[/quote]
    Now *that* is a persuasive argument, to me.

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