JEB is dropping out

[moneymaker]

A little earlier than I thought he would.

[paramount]

Just a few months ago I never would have guessed this outcome for Jeb.

[utcsox]

Please clap.

[svelte]

[quote=paramount]Just a few months ago I never would have guessed this outcome for Jeb.[/quote]

Me neither! Kind of amazing.

[FlyerInHi]

Question is now is who will benefit from the Jeb organization and the hundreds of millions he raised.

[spdrun]

I’d have never thought that a Bush would be better than the alternative, but there we have it. Three creeps as front-runners.

Hope Cruz gets banned from the election by the courts.

[livinincali]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Question is now is who will benefit from the Jeb organization and the hundreds of millions he raised.[/quote]

The establishment probably goes all in on Rubio now. Cruz is generating some question marks, but he still has a shot. It’s probably down to 3 now Trump, Rubio and Cruz.

[Anonymous]

[quote=spdrun]Three creeps as front-runners.[/quote]

That sums it up perfectly.

[quote]Hope Cruz gets banned from the election by the courts.[/quote]

I don’t like the idea of anyone being disqualified on a technicality. Trump is being a douche for playing that card.

The “natural born citizen” requirement was meant to prevent someone with conflicting loyalties taking office. I don’t like anything about Cruz as a candidate, but I also do not doubt that he is loyal to the US and no other country. He should be qualified to run, and hopefully lose.

[livinincali]

[quote=harvey]
I don’t like the idea of anyone being disqualified on a technicality. Trump is being a douche for playing that card.

The “natural born citizen” requirement was meant to prevent someone with conflicting loyalties taking office. I don’t like anything about Cruz as a candidate, but I also do not doubt that he is loyal to the US and no other country. He should be qualified to run, and hopefully lose.[/quote]

I don’t like the idea that we treat our constitution as some sort of suggestions document. Why must we make all these exceptions when the rules are already spelled out. I don’t doubt Cruz’s loyalty but I don’t understand why we need to make an exception for him.

[spdrun]

Here’s the thing — I think the founders intended him to be eligible. Born abroad of American parents as clarified by the citizenship law of 1795’ish.

But at the same time, birther rubbish coming back and kicking his butt would be poetic justice.

[scaredyclassic]

I miss Jeb. He’s sweet.

[livinincali]

And it just gets better for Cruz. Now he’s being investigated by FEC for irregularities in his campaign financing.

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/050/201602210300038050/201602210300038050.pdf?platform=hootsuite

[spdrun]

Ask him to marry you.

[livinincali]

[quote=spdrun]Here’s the thing — I think the founders intended him to be eligible. Born abroad of American parents as clarified by the citizenship law of 1795’ish.

But at the same time, birther rubbish coming back and kicking his butt would be poetic justice.[/quote]

Well only his Mom was a US citizen and it’s possible at the time of his birth in 1970 she might not have even been an American citizen. It appears that she was registered to vote in Canada which would mean she needed to have Canadian citizenship, but at the time (1970) you couldn’t have dual citizenship as a Canadian so she would have had to renounce her American citizenship. In addition if he was a US citizen born abroad he should have a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America and he should be able to produce it. Unfortunately, I don’t think he has it because he would have produced it to make the doubts go away.

[Anonymous]

[quote=livinincali]I don’t like the idea that we treat our constitution as some sort of suggestions document. Why must we make all these exceptions when the rules are already spelled out. I don’t doubt Cruz’s loyalty but I don’t understand why we need to make an exception for him.[/quote]

There’s no clear legal definition and almost no case-law history defining the “natural born citizen” requirement for the president. The rules aren’t even close to “spelled out” for Cruz’s situation.

Sure, it’s theoretically possible that Trump or someone else could prevail if they challenge Cruz’s eligibility.

Do we really want the person who wins a democratic election to be removed from office because the opposition challenges an obscure technicality?

Anyone who promotes such an outcome should never be president.

[Author]

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