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August 8, 2017 at 8:34 PM #807593August 9, 2017 at 12:55 PM #807600
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ParticipantTruman:
“they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth.”
con man don:
“They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.”
This unfathomably ignorant and barely sentient jackass probably thought, in his dangerously disorganized and pitifully weak brain, “hey, they still love Truman for this quote, if I say it, they’ll still love me in 72 years, too.” Although maybe he thought 152 years, as he probably thinks Truman said this sometime around the civil war.
August 9, 2017 at 1:00 PM #807601Participant“The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09/trump-north-korea-comments-reactions-241434
So the upshot is that you can’t take seriously what the president of the United States says?
As dangerous and terrible as that is, it’s probably less dangerous and terrible than taking what this particular president says seriously.
A couple of great options you trump voters have left us with. Didn’t see this coming, huh?
Morons.
August 9, 2017 at 1:07 PM #807602FlyerInHi
GuestZk, we elected a dumbass. The world is laughing at us despite Trump’s claim to the contrary. The world respected and admired us for electing Obama. Now they see that the White House is being ignored by the pentagon, comtradicted by state, etc… America is rudderless.
August 9, 2017 at 1:10 PM #807603Guest[quote=zk]”The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09/trump-north-korea-comments-reactions-241434
So the upshot is that you can’t take seriously what the president of the United States says?
As dangerous and terrible as that is, it’s probably less dangerous and terrible than taking what this particular president says seriously.
A couple of great options you trump voters have left us with. Didn’t see this coming, huh?
I should turn on Fox News to see how they compare it Obama’ s red line in Syria.
It took the DPRK mere hours to cross Trump’s red line.
Morons.[/quote]
August 9, 2017 at 1:12 PM #807604Guest[quote=zk]”The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09/trump-north-korea-comments-reactions-241434
So the upshot is that you can’t take seriously what the president of the United States says?
As dangerous and terrible as that is, it’s probably less dangerous and terrible than taking what this particular president says seriously.
A couple of great options you trump voters have left us with. Didn’t see this coming, huh?
Morons.
[/quote]I should turn on Fox News to see how they compare it to Obama’ s red line in Syria.
It took the DPRK mere hours to cross Trump’s red line.
August 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM #807605SK in CV
Participant[quote=zk]”The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea.”
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Distraction. They’re all repeating the “fire and fury” part. That happens all over the world on pretty regular basis. Pretty nebulous words. The real problem were the next few words. “like the world has never seen”. That’s not an attack on a mosque or a church. It’s not driving down a busy street and using a big truck as a weapon. Or an attack with multiple weapons on a night club. It’s not even using deadly gas on your own people, as Assad is accused of doing. The world HAS seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His words mean something. They mean something very specific.
August 9, 2017 at 3:32 PM #807606Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=zk]”The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea.”
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Distraction. They’re all repeating the “fire and fury” part. That happens all over the world on pretty regular basis. Pretty nebulous words. The real problem were the next few words. “like the world has never seen”. That’s not an attack on a mosque or a church. It’s not driving down a busy street and using a big truck as a weapon. Or an attack with multiple weapons on a night club. It’s not even using deadly gas on your own people, as Assad is accused of doing. The world HAS seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His words mean something. They mean something very specific.[/quote]
Yes,SK. There is no backtracking from that without losing face.
Some people are saying Trump has been practicing the phrase looking for an opportunity to use it. It slipped out of his peewee brain at the wrong time.
August 9, 2017 at 5:14 PM #807607Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Distraction. They’re all repeating the “fire and fury” part. That happens all over the world on pretty regular basis. Pretty nebulous words. The real problem were the next few words. “like the world has never seen”. That’s not an attack on a mosque or a church. It’s not driving down a busy street and using a big truck as a weapon. Or an attack with multiple weapons on a night club. It’s not even using deadly gas on your own people, as Assad is accused of doing. The world HAS seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His words mean something. They mean something very specific.[/quote]You lost me. The way I read it, he was threatening to use nuclear weapons against them the next time they threatened us. His advisers said, “don’t read anything into” his fire and fury talk/speech which, as far as I can tell, basically means that they’re saying that he didn’t mean what he obviously meant (nuclear attack).
And obviously he didn’t really mean it, because North Korea threatened us a few hours later, and they’re still there.
What do you mean by “distraction?”
August 9, 2017 at 5:40 PM #807608Participant[quote=zk]You lost me. The way I read it, he was threatening to use nuclear weapons against them the next time they threatened us. His advisers said, “don’t read anything into” his fire and fury talk/speech which, as far as I can tell, basically means that they’re saying that he didn’t mean what he obviously meant (nuclear attack).
And obviously he didn’t really mean it, because North Korea threatened us a few hours later, and they’re still there.
What do you mean by “distraction?”[/quote]
I’ve heard half a dozen surrogates today. Every one of them says the “fire and fury” part, without hesitation. Some of them use it repeatedly. And then go on to say that it’s not a big deal. As if to say “fire and fury” are no big thing. And they’re right. But those were not the important words. None of them use the words that followed.
And yes, he was either consciously threatening to use nuclear weapons, or is so f’ing stupid, he didn’t realize what the words he used meant.
That he’s not competent is proven once again.
August 9, 2017 at 7:15 PM #807609GuestYeah, “the likes of which the world has never seen before” are the words that made Trump’s statement a nuclear threat. “Fire and fury” could mean anything short of nuclear war.
Then he goes on to tweet:
My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before….A blatant lie. What fist order? There will be a different first order sometime in the future. Trump is full of shit and a compulsive liar.
Trump has a speech compulsion to add “greatest ever”, “than ever before”. He says that about people he hires, then he fires them within weeks which certainly don’t make those guys “the greatest ever”.
August 10, 2017 at 7:50 AM #807610Anonymous
GuestBe prepared, there is a small chance that our horrendous leadership could unknowingly lead us into World War III.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 31, 2013
August 10, 2017 at 8:49 AM #807611ParticipantFor every stupid new tweet, there is a stupid old tweet. Turn, turn, turn.
August 10, 2017 at 10:12 AM #807612Hobie
ParticipantAll this talk is just posturing. By both sides. What will Kim do next if he indeed bombs US interests? Invade?
He will be opening a large can of whoop azz on himself not only by the US, but China and SKorea possibly even be invaded by Russia.
August 10, 2017 at 10:19 AM #807613GuestThe complex history of the Korea situation can be distilled down to two simple questions:
Question 1: When will the North Korean regime collapse internally?
There’s universal agreement that the answer is “not anytime soon” no matter what any outside nation does.
Question 2: Will hostilities break out between the North and South?
For 60+ years, the answer has been a tenuous “no” and it is important to keep it that way because even the most optimistic wartime scenarios involve the death of tens of thousands of Koreans and hundreds of Americans.
And that’s the very best-case scenario – there are many plausible outcomes that are far worse.
Why would any person encourage these events?
Kim does it because he’s a childish dictator.
Trump does it because he’s a …
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