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June 17, 2011 at 1:00 PM #705504June 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM #704315
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=briansd1]BG, I don’t understand your fixation with tract houses or non-tract houses.
A house is a house. A custom house may not be any better than a tract house. Homeowners do all kinds of weird stuff so someone building a one-off house is not any better.[/quote]
This is true, brian, but a person going thru the time, trouble and expense of building a custom home in coastal CA counties (where lots are expensive) has to jump through a lot of hoops to get city/county approval. They can’t just put a skirt around a trailer and build a room addition on it, like you can in TX.
In addition, people aren’t going to go through all the trouble and expense to build in CA coastal counties if their land isn’t worth building on (too small or badly-located lot).
June 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM #704409Participant[quote=briansd1]BG, I don’t understand your fixation with tract houses or non-tract houses.
A house is a house. A custom house may not be any better than a tract house. Homeowners do all kinds of weird stuff so someone building a one-off house is not any better.[/quote]
This is true, brian, but a person going thru the time, trouble and expense of building a custom home in coastal CA counties (where lots are expensive) has to jump through a lot of hoops to get city/county approval. They can’t just put a skirt around a trailer and build a room addition on it, like you can in TX.
In addition, people aren’t going to go through all the trouble and expense to build in CA coastal counties if their land isn’t worth building on (too small or badly-located lot).
June 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM #705002Participant[quote=briansd1]BG, I don’t understand your fixation with tract houses or non-tract houses.
A house is a house. A custom house may not be any better than a tract house. Homeowners do all kinds of weird stuff so someone building a one-off house is not any better.[/quote]
This is true, brian, but a person going thru the time, trouble and expense of building a custom home in coastal CA counties (where lots are expensive) has to jump through a lot of hoops to get city/county approval. They can’t just put a skirt around a trailer and build a room addition on it, like you can in TX.
In addition, people aren’t going to go through all the trouble and expense to build in CA coastal counties if their land isn’t worth building on (too small or badly-located lot).
June 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM #705154Participant[quote=briansd1]BG, I don’t understand your fixation with tract houses or non-tract houses.
A house is a house. A custom house may not be any better than a tract house. Homeowners do all kinds of weird stuff so someone building a one-off house is not any better.[/quote]
This is true, brian, but a person going thru the time, trouble and expense of building a custom home in coastal CA counties (where lots are expensive) has to jump through a lot of hoops to get city/county approval. They can’t just put a skirt around a trailer and build a room addition on it, like you can in TX.
In addition, people aren’t going to go through all the trouble and expense to build in CA coastal counties if their land isn’t worth building on (too small or badly-located lot).
June 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM #705514Participant[quote=briansd1]BG, I don’t understand your fixation with tract houses or non-tract houses.
A house is a house. A custom house may not be any better than a tract house. Homeowners do all kinds of weird stuff so someone building a one-off house is not any better.[/quote]
This is true, brian, but a person going thru the time, trouble and expense of building a custom home in coastal CA counties (where lots are expensive) has to jump through a lot of hoops to get city/county approval. They can’t just put a skirt around a trailer and build a room addition on it, like you can in TX.
In addition, people aren’t going to go through all the trouble and expense to build in CA coastal counties if their land isn’t worth building on (too small or badly-located lot).
June 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM #704320The-Shoveler
ParticipantThere is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.
But having everyone living in high rise Condo’s in the city seems like the current administrations plan so …June 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM #704414ParticipantThere is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.
But having everyone living in high rise Condo’s in the city seems like the current administrations plan so …June 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM #705008ParticipantThere is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.
But having everyone living in high rise Condo’s in the city seems like the current administrations plan so …June 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM #705159ParticipantThere is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.
But having everyone living in high rise Condo’s in the city seems like the current administrations plan so …June 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM #705519ParticipantThere is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.
But having everyone living in high rise Condo’s in the city seems like the current administrations plan so …June 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM #704325briansd1
Guest[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]There is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.[/quote]
Put some perspective to it. You have to compare equal lots, location, etc… I’m just comparing the tract house itself to the non-tract house.
For example tracts in Torrey Hills or Carmel Valley are pretty ocean close. Can you find equal houses in the Bay Area for the same price?
BTW, there are tracts in La Jolla as well. The houses are clearly superior to the old “custom” houses in the Bay Area.
Those tract houses are not really my style, but value for the money wise, they are clearly superior houses.
Having said all that, I’ve seen enough custom houses to say that custom houses are better only if their owners have the money to build properly. Many customs houses are crap that are work-in-progress that owners add on to slowly as they can afford to build — half finished remodeling projects, a mish-mash of flooring styles and decor, etc…
June 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM #704419Guest[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]There is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.[/quote]
Put some perspective to it. You have to compare equal lots, location, etc… I’m just comparing the tract house itself to the non-tract house.
For example tracts in Torrey Hills or Carmel Valley are pretty ocean close. Can you find equal houses in the Bay Area for the same price?
BTW, there are tracts in La Jolla as well. The houses are clearly superior to the old “custom” houses in the Bay Area.
Those tract houses are not really my style, but value for the money wise, they are clearly superior houses.
Having said all that, I’ve seen enough custom houses to say that custom houses are better only if their owners have the money to build properly. Many customs houses are crap that are work-in-progress that owners add on to slowly as they can afford to build — half finished remodeling projects, a mish-mash of flooring styles and decor, etc…
June 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM #705013Guest[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]There is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.[/quote]
Put some perspective to it. You have to compare equal lots, location, etc… I’m just comparing the tract house itself to the non-tract house.
For example tracts in Torrey Hills or Carmel Valley are pretty ocean close. Can you find equal houses in the Bay Area for the same price?
BTW, there are tracts in La Jolla as well. The houses are clearly superior to the old “custom” houses in the Bay Area.
Those tract houses are not really my style, but value for the money wise, they are clearly superior houses.
Having said all that, I’ve seen enough custom houses to say that custom houses are better only if their owners have the money to build properly. Many customs houses are crap that are work-in-progress that owners add on to slowly as they can afford to build — half finished remodeling projects, a mish-mash of flooring styles and decor, etc…
June 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM #705164Guest[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]There is no comparison to a custom house built on a custom lot (say sitting on top of a mountain or backing to a forest) to a tract home, the custom home will easily cost 2-5 times as much to build as a tract home. And having 2-5 acres to call your own is sometimes a pain and sometimes a life saver.[/quote]
Put some perspective to it. You have to compare equal lots, location, etc… I’m just comparing the tract house itself to the non-tract house.
For example tracts in Torrey Hills or Carmel Valley are pretty ocean close. Can you find equal houses in the Bay Area for the same price?
BTW, there are tracts in La Jolla as well. The houses are clearly superior to the old “custom” houses in the Bay Area.
Those tract houses are not really my style, but value for the money wise, they are clearly superior houses.
Having said all that, I’ve seen enough custom houses to say that custom houses are better only if their owners have the money to build properly. Many customs houses are crap that are work-in-progress that owners add on to slowly as they can afford to build — half finished remodeling projects, a mish-mash of flooring styles and decor, etc…
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