It’s not all gloom and doom. “Silly” Valley values booming

[SmellsFeeshy]

Also out of curiosity for people like flu and ctr70 that moved down to SD from the Bay Area, what made you want to move?

[an]

[quote=ctr70]Think about it, people live in Seattle and Boston and love it even though the weather sucks bad. They tolerate the weather because the cities are cool and have character. Would ANYONE live in SD if it had Seattle’s weather? No! It would be an ugly place w/out the sunshine.[/quote]
That’s like saying, would anyone live in Seattle/Boston/SF if they have don’t have their character? One thing though is that, city character can change over time but weather is unlikely to change for many years to come.

[quote=ctr70]A lot of SD has a lower mentality crowd and a lot of directionless uneducated people.[/quote]
What do you mean lower mentality crowd? Are you referring to their education? What do you mean directionless uneducated people? Doesn’t every city have people who are less educated to do the blue collar work?

[an]

[quote=ctr70]Think about it, people live in Seattle and Boston and love it even though the weather sucks bad. They tolerate the weather because the cities are cool and have character. Would ANYONE live in SD if it had Seattle’s weather? No! It would be an ugly place w/out the sunshine.[/quote]
That’s like saying, would anyone live in Seattle/Boston/SF if they have don’t have their character? One thing though is that, city character can change over time but weather is unlikely to change for many years to come.

[quote=ctr70]A lot of SD has a lower mentality crowd and a lot of directionless uneducated people.[/quote]
What do you mean lower mentality crowd? Are you referring to their education? What do you mean directionless uneducated people? Doesn’t every city have people who are less educated to do the blue collar work?

[an]

[quote=ctr70]Think about it, people live in Seattle and Boston and love it even though the weather sucks bad. They tolerate the weather because the cities are cool and have character. Would ANYONE live in SD if it had Seattle’s weather? No! It would be an ugly place w/out the sunshine.[/quote]
That’s like saying, would anyone live in Seattle/Boston/SF if they have don’t have their character? One thing though is that, city character can change over time but weather is unlikely to change for many years to come.

[quote=ctr70]A lot of SD has a lower mentality crowd and a lot of directionless uneducated people.[/quote]
What do you mean lower mentality crowd? Are you referring to their education? What do you mean directionless uneducated people? Doesn’t every city have people who are less educated to do the blue collar work?

[an]

[quote=ctr70]Think about it, people live in Seattle and Boston and love it even though the weather sucks bad. They tolerate the weather because the cities are cool and have character. Would ANYONE live in SD if it had Seattle’s weather? No! It would be an ugly place w/out the sunshine.[/quote]
That’s like saying, would anyone live in Seattle/Boston/SF if they have don’t have their character? One thing though is that, city character can change over time but weather is unlikely to change for many years to come.

[quote=ctr70]A lot of SD has a lower mentality crowd and a lot of directionless uneducated people.[/quote]
What do you mean lower mentality crowd? Are you referring to their education? What do you mean directionless uneducated people? Doesn’t every city have people who are less educated to do the blue collar work?

[an]

[quote=ctr70]Think about it, people live in Seattle and Boston and love it even though the weather sucks bad. They tolerate the weather because the cities are cool and have character. Would ANYONE live in SD if it had Seattle’s weather? No! It would be an ugly place w/out the sunshine.[/quote]
That’s like saying, would anyone live in Seattle/Boston/SF if they have don’t have their character? One thing though is that, city character can change over time but weather is unlikely to change for many years to come.

[quote=ctr70]A lot of SD has a lower mentality crowd and a lot of directionless uneducated people.[/quote]
What do you mean lower mentality crowd? Are you referring to their education? What do you mean directionless uneducated people? Doesn’t every city have people who are less educated to do the blue collar work?

[sdrealtor]

I think you are confusing education level and culture. I dont where I saw it but several years ago, I saw an article on education level. On the whole, SD has one of the highest (if not the highest) average educational levels in the country. Our waiters/waitresses have college degrees as do the many of the check out persons at our supermarkets because it is such a great place to live. We may be the capital of well educated but under employed individuals. The percentage of folks with advanced degrees here is very very high. With that said, if you want to talk about culture….well thats a completely different topic. We have a beach culture and not much else.

[sdrealtor]

I think you are confusing education level and culture. I dont where I saw it but several years ago, I saw an article on education level. On the whole, SD has one of the highest (if not the highest) average educational levels in the country. Our waiters/waitresses have college degrees as do the many of the check out persons at our supermarkets because it is such a great place to live. We may be the capital of well educated but under employed individuals. The percentage of folks with advanced degrees here is very very high. With that said, if you want to talk about culture….well thats a completely different topic. We have a beach culture and not much else.

[sdrealtor]

I think you are confusing education level and culture. I dont where I saw it but several years ago, I saw an article on education level. On the whole, SD has one of the highest (if not the highest) average educational levels in the country. Our waiters/waitresses have college degrees as do the many of the check out persons at our supermarkets because it is such a great place to live. We may be the capital of well educated but under employed individuals. The percentage of folks with advanced degrees here is very very high. With that said, if you want to talk about culture….well thats a completely different topic. We have a beach culture and not much else.

[sdrealtor]

I think you are confusing education level and culture. I dont where I saw it but several years ago, I saw an article on education level. On the whole, SD has one of the highest (if not the highest) average educational levels in the country. Our waiters/waitresses have college degrees as do the many of the check out persons at our supermarkets because it is such a great place to live. We may be the capital of well educated but under employed individuals. The percentage of folks with advanced degrees here is very very high. With that said, if you want to talk about culture….well thats a completely different topic. We have a beach culture and not much else.

[sdrealtor]

I think you are confusing education level and culture. I dont where I saw it but several years ago, I saw an article on education level. On the whole, SD has one of the highest (if not the highest) average educational levels in the country. Our waiters/waitresses have college degrees as do the many of the check out persons at our supermarkets because it is such a great place to live. We may be the capital of well educated but under employed individuals. The percentage of folks with advanced degrees here is very very high. With that said, if you want to talk about culture….well thats a completely different topic. We have a beach culture and not much else.

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70] It is also more “commercialized” and has a lot of unsightly suburban/cookie cutter, sterile, characterless areas (like Rancho Penasquitas where I live now and most of inland North County IMO). These areas are just totally car culture mall oriented places, you never see anyone on the sidewalks! They are so sterile feeling and devoid of any uniqueness. There are only a few places in SD which are kind of cool, interesting and have some character (parts of North Park, Univ Heights, South Park, Hillcrest)…and even those areas can lack.

SD is blessed with the best climate in the world, a very cool landscape with mountains/desert/ocean, not bad traffic for a city it’s size, and much cheaper housing than SF (and NYC and close in Boston too). And those are VERY strong points. I would give climate/landscape an A+. But I would give the *city itself* a C and the architecture maybe a C- and the quality of people probably a C-. [/quote]

I agree.

But, I think that San Diego has better quality housing near employment centers, at a better price. That’s a huge advantage because it’s a pocketbook issue.

It’s much easier to do without culture than without money and comfort (or if you make more money and all your money goes to housing and you have to take in a roommate, then that doesn’t do much to your standard of living).

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70] It is also more “commercialized” and has a lot of unsightly suburban/cookie cutter, sterile, characterless areas (like Rancho Penasquitas where I live now and most of inland North County IMO). These areas are just totally car culture mall oriented places, you never see anyone on the sidewalks! They are so sterile feeling and devoid of any uniqueness. There are only a few places in SD which are kind of cool, interesting and have some character (parts of North Park, Univ Heights, South Park, Hillcrest)…and even those areas can lack.

SD is blessed with the best climate in the world, a very cool landscape with mountains/desert/ocean, not bad traffic for a city it’s size, and much cheaper housing than SF (and NYC and close in Boston too). And those are VERY strong points. I would give climate/landscape an A+. But I would give the *city itself* a C and the architecture maybe a C- and the quality of people probably a C-. [/quote]

I agree.

But, I think that San Diego has better quality housing near employment centers, at a better price. That’s a huge advantage because it’s a pocketbook issue.

It’s much easier to do without culture than without money and comfort (or if you make more money and all your money goes to housing and you have to take in a roommate, then that doesn’t do much to your standard of living).

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70] It is also more “commercialized” and has a lot of unsightly suburban/cookie cutter, sterile, characterless areas (like Rancho Penasquitas where I live now and most of inland North County IMO). These areas are just totally car culture mall oriented places, you never see anyone on the sidewalks! They are so sterile feeling and devoid of any uniqueness. There are only a few places in SD which are kind of cool, interesting and have some character (parts of North Park, Univ Heights, South Park, Hillcrest)…and even those areas can lack.

SD is blessed with the best climate in the world, a very cool landscape with mountains/desert/ocean, not bad traffic for a city it’s size, and much cheaper housing than SF (and NYC and close in Boston too). And those are VERY strong points. I would give climate/landscape an A+. But I would give the *city itself* a C and the architecture maybe a C- and the quality of people probably a C-. [/quote]

I agree.

But, I think that San Diego has better quality housing near employment centers, at a better price. That’s a huge advantage because it’s a pocketbook issue.

It’s much easier to do without culture than without money and comfort (or if you make more money and all your money goes to housing and you have to take in a roommate, then that doesn’t do much to your standard of living).

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70] It is also more “commercialized” and has a lot of unsightly suburban/cookie cutter, sterile, characterless areas (like Rancho Penasquitas where I live now and most of inland North County IMO). These areas are just totally car culture mall oriented places, you never see anyone on the sidewalks! They are so sterile feeling and devoid of any uniqueness. There are only a few places in SD which are kind of cool, interesting and have some character (parts of North Park, Univ Heights, South Park, Hillcrest)…and even those areas can lack.

SD is blessed with the best climate in the world, a very cool landscape with mountains/desert/ocean, not bad traffic for a city it’s size, and much cheaper housing than SF (and NYC and close in Boston too). And those are VERY strong points. I would give climate/landscape an A+. But I would give the *city itself* a C and the architecture maybe a C- and the quality of people probably a C-. [/quote]

I agree.

But, I think that San Diego has better quality housing near employment centers, at a better price. That’s a huge advantage because it’s a pocketbook issue.

It’s much easier to do without culture than without money and comfort (or if you make more money and all your money goes to housing and you have to take in a roommate, then that doesn’t do much to your standard of living).

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