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June 18, 2011 at 1:22 PM #705744June 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM #704553
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=AN] . . .At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized. So, I don’t understand this fascination about “custom” home.[/quote]
AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.
June 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM #704646Participant[quote=AN] . . .At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized. So, I don’t understand this fascination about “custom” home.[/quote]
AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.
June 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM #705241Participant[quote=AN] . . .At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized. So, I don’t understand this fascination about “custom” home.[/quote]
AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.
June 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM #705392Participant[quote=AN] . . .At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized. So, I don’t understand this fascination about “custom” home.[/quote]
AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.
June 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM #705754Participant[quote=AN] . . .At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized. So, I don’t understand this fascination about “custom” home.[/quote]
AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.
June 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM #704563briansd1
Guest[quote=AN]
At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized.[/quote]Very true. It’s about location, comfort and design of the house that fits your tastes and requirements.
Some people have rehabbed tract houses very nicely.
http://www.latimes.com/features/home/la-hm-wileyhouse-pg,0,1792723.photogallerySome of the old custom houses are functionally obsolete and uninhabitable, IMHO.
[quote=bearishgurl] “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Location and desirability can change quite a bit over time. 100 years ago, old parts of Philadelphia housed some of the richest families in America. It’s not the case anymore, and new locations are rivaling and surpasing the old.
BG, my perception is that you are fixated on “old” locations of 30 years ago. There’s no way that Clairemont is better than Carmel Valley or 4S Ranch. Employment centers of the buyers have shifted north.
You also give value to “traditional” stuff. Solid oak might be “precious” material, but when crudely made and finished, old and dirty from decades of use, it doesn’t have the value of well-finished brand new particle board.
Who care if a house is unique or not? When it’s old and past its useful life, it’s not worth much more than the land it sits on.
The land in the Bay Area is worth more proportional to the structures. So if you live up there, you’re paying proportionately more for the land, therefore you have less house to enjoy. Of course, the job and income opportunities and cultural trade-offs might make it worth your while to live up there.
June 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM #704656Guest[quote=AN]
At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized.[/quote]Very true. It’s about location, comfort and design of the house that fits your tastes and requirements.
Some people have rehabbed tract houses very nicely.
http://www.latimes.com/features/home/la-hm-wileyhouse-pg,0,1792723.photogallerySome of the old custom houses are functionally obsolete and uninhabitable, IMHO.
[quote=bearishgurl] “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Location and desirability can change quite a bit over time. 100 years ago, old parts of Philadelphia housed some of the richest families in America. It’s not the case anymore, and new locations are rivaling and surpasing the old.
BG, my perception is that you are fixated on “old” locations of 30 years ago. There’s no way that Clairemont is better than Carmel Valley or 4S Ranch. Employment centers of the buyers have shifted north.
You also give value to “traditional” stuff. Solid oak might be “precious” material, but when crudely made and finished, old and dirty from decades of use, it doesn’t have the value of well-finished brand new particle board.
Who care if a house is unique or not? When it’s old and past its useful life, it’s not worth much more than the land it sits on.
The land in the Bay Area is worth more proportional to the structures. So if you live up there, you’re paying proportionately more for the land, therefore you have less house to enjoy. Of course, the job and income opportunities and cultural trade-offs might make it worth your while to live up there.
June 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM #705251Guest[quote=AN]
At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized.[/quote]Very true. It’s about location, comfort and design of the house that fits your tastes and requirements.
Some people have rehabbed tract houses very nicely.
http://www.latimes.com/features/home/la-hm-wileyhouse-pg,0,1792723.photogallerySome of the old custom houses are functionally obsolete and uninhabitable, IMHO.
[quote=bearishgurl] “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Location and desirability can change quite a bit over time. 100 years ago, old parts of Philadelphia housed some of the richest families in America. It’s not the case anymore, and new locations are rivaling and surpasing the old.
BG, my perception is that you are fixated on “old” locations of 30 years ago. There’s no way that Clairemont is better than Carmel Valley or 4S Ranch. Employment centers of the buyers have shifted north.
You also give value to “traditional” stuff. Solid oak might be “precious” material, but when crudely made and finished, old and dirty from decades of use, it doesn’t have the value of well-finished brand new particle board.
Who care if a house is unique or not? When it’s old and past its useful life, it’s not worth much more than the land it sits on.
The land in the Bay Area is worth more proportional to the structures. So if you live up there, you’re paying proportionately more for the land, therefore you have less house to enjoy. Of course, the job and income opportunities and cultural trade-offs might make it worth your while to live up there.
June 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM #705402Guest[quote=AN]
At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized.[/quote]Very true. It’s about location, comfort and design of the house that fits your tastes and requirements.
Some people have rehabbed tract houses very nicely.
http://www.latimes.com/features/home/la-hm-wileyhouse-pg,0,1792723.photogallerySome of the old custom houses are functionally obsolete and uninhabitable, IMHO.
[quote=bearishgurl] “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Location and desirability can change quite a bit over time. 100 years ago, old parts of Philadelphia housed some of the richest families in America. It’s not the case anymore, and new locations are rivaling and surpasing the old.
BG, my perception is that you are fixated on “old” locations of 30 years ago. There’s no way that Clairemont is better than Carmel Valley or 4S Ranch. Employment centers of the buyers have shifted north.
You also give value to “traditional” stuff. Solid oak might be “precious” material, but when crudely made and finished, old and dirty from decades of use, it doesn’t have the value of well-finished brand new particle board.
Who care if a house is unique or not? When it’s old and past its useful life, it’s not worth much more than the land it sits on.
The land in the Bay Area is worth more proportional to the structures. So if you live up there, you’re paying proportionately more for the land, therefore you have less house to enjoy. Of course, the job and income opportunities and cultural trade-offs might make it worth your while to live up there.
June 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM #705764Guest[quote=AN]
At the end of the day, a house is nothing more than a bunch of lumber on a concrete platform. It’s all about location. Everything else can be changed/customized.[/quote]Very true. It’s about location, comfort and design of the house that fits your tastes and requirements.
Some people have rehabbed tract houses very nicely.
http://www.latimes.com/features/home/la-hm-wileyhouse-pg,0,1792723.photogallerySome of the old custom houses are functionally obsolete and uninhabitable, IMHO.
[quote=bearishgurl] “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Location and desirability can change quite a bit over time. 100 years ago, old parts of Philadelphia housed some of the richest families in America. It’s not the case anymore, and new locations are rivaling and surpasing the old.
BG, my perception is that you are fixated on “old” locations of 30 years ago. There’s no way that Clairemont is better than Carmel Valley or 4S Ranch. Employment centers of the buyers have shifted north.
You also give value to “traditional” stuff. Solid oak might be “precious” material, but when crudely made and finished, old and dirty from decades of use, it doesn’t have the value of well-finished brand new particle board.
Who care if a house is unique or not? When it’s old and past its useful life, it’s not worth much more than the land it sits on.
The land in the Bay Area is worth more proportional to the structures. So if you live up there, you’re paying proportionately more for the land, therefore you have less house to enjoy. Of course, the job and income opportunities and cultural trade-offs might make it worth your while to live up there.
June 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM #704573an
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Not everyone do upgrades specifically for resale purposes. Some people do upgrades to enhance their living comfort and allow them to enjoy the materials/design. Just because it’s a tract house doesn’t mean one can’t put in high end upgrades, especially if it’s their forever home. Also, certain location appeal for to one and less for other. So, just because it’s less appealing to you doesn’t mean the owner of such house wouldn’t want to upgrade to their liking.June 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM #704666Participant[quote=bearishgurl]AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Not everyone do upgrades specifically for resale purposes. Some people do upgrades to enhance their living comfort and allow them to enjoy the materials/design. Just because it’s a tract house doesn’t mean one can’t put in high end upgrades, especially if it’s their forever home. Also, certain location appeal for to one and less for other. So, just because it’s less appealing to you doesn’t mean the owner of such house wouldn’t want to upgrade to their liking.June 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM #705261Participant[quote=bearishgurl]AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Not everyone do upgrades specifically for resale purposes. Some people do upgrades to enhance their living comfort and allow them to enjoy the materials/design. Just because it’s a tract house doesn’t mean one can’t put in high end upgrades, especially if it’s their forever home. Also, certain location appeal for to one and less for other. So, just because it’s less appealing to you doesn’t mean the owner of such house wouldn’t want to upgrade to their liking.June 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM #705412Participant[quote=bearishgurl]AN, here’s something we can agree on. That “bunch of lumber” can be plywood, “engineered wood,” or Brazilian hardwood and teak but you wouldn’t want to install the latter unless the property location and lot made it worth doing so. I’ve posted your phrase (above), “Everything else can be changed/customized” in all its variations countless times on this board but it doesn’t seem to have any effect on getting some Piggs to understand that “value” is all about location and nothing more, even if just a vacant lot.[/quote]
Not everyone do upgrades specifically for resale purposes. Some people do upgrades to enhance their living comfort and allow them to enjoy the materials/design. Just because it’s a tract house doesn’t mean one can’t put in high end upgrades, especially if it’s their forever home. Also, certain location appeal for to one and less for other. So, just because it’s less appealing to you doesn’t mean the owner of such house wouldn’t want to upgrade to their liking. -
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