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June 5, 2007 at 5:47 AM #9217June 5, 2007 at 8:12 AM #56694
LookoutBelow
ParticipantIf a person is trying to figure out why and how FAR real estate will decline, then the "Blame Game" is a NECESSARY part of it, how else can you formulate an opinion or speculate on the future if you do not know "why" it did what it did for the last 5 years to begin with ?
Same goes for the "Morality" of why it did what it did……
The religious part of it I can completely understand, so maybe just stick with leaving out the "religious" part of your "notes to post requirement"……
Sincerely,
The righteous Rev. Refi
June 5, 2007 at 8:12 AM #56717ParticipantIf a person is trying to figure out why and how FAR real estate will decline, then the "Blame Game" is a NECESSARY part of it, how else can you formulate an opinion or speculate on the future if you do not know "why" it did what it did for the last 5 years to begin with ?
Same goes for the "Morality" of why it did what it did……
The religious part of it I can completely understand, so maybe just stick with leaving out the "religious" part of your "notes to post requirement"……
Sincerely,
The righteous Rev. Refi
June 5, 2007 at 8:25 AM #56702CardiffBaseball
Participantsdrealtor started a perfectly good thread yesterday where intelligent discussion occurred regarding the data he posted which you’d have been free to agree or disagree with.
You couldn’t be bothered to get involved in that discussion yet you start two brand threads today. This is exactly why, as it pertains to being involved here, that you need to try and be a part of the community so you aren’t dismissed as a spammer.
June 5, 2007 at 8:25 AM #56725Participantsdrealtor started a perfectly good thread yesterday where intelligent discussion occurred regarding the data he posted which you’d have been free to agree or disagree with.
You couldn’t be bothered to get involved in that discussion yet you start two brand threads today. This is exactly why, as it pertains to being involved here, that you need to try and be a part of the community so you aren’t dismissed as a spammer.
June 5, 2007 at 8:47 AM #56733latesummer2008
ParticipantWhy don’t YOU stick to that thread then. I would like to debate what the May numbers will say instead of name calling.
June 5, 2007 at 8:47 AM #56710ParticipantWhy don’t YOU stick to that thread then. I would like to debate what the May numbers will say instead of name calling.
June 5, 2007 at 8:52 AM #56712(former)FormerSanDiegan
ParticipantSince I am “stupid” and a “friggin’ idiot” according to latesummer2008, I suppose my guess is worthless, but here goes.
May will be more of the same.
June 5, 2007 at 8:52 AM #56735ParticipantSince I am “stupid” and a “friggin’ idiot” according to latesummer2008, I suppose my guess is worthless, but here goes.
May will be more of the same.
June 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM #56844NotCranky
Participant“I believe when you see as many High End Areas showing large declines in Median Prices, for LA, SD and Orange Counties during the same month, the data is telling you something. Others think it is just statistical noise.”
I think you make a good point here.It is not just one zip code or even two or three but quite a few but not enough to force a consensus that high priced areas will immediately implode. I think you got your finger on the pulse of the market pretty good.The pulse is weak. You night be right that the market is having a complete coronary malfunction. Does that mean that everyone must submit to all your opinions to the exact same degree that you hold them and put you on center stage forever? Seems like you are pretty demanding.IMHO.
I agree with CardiffBaseball and you know I already made similiar suggestions. It is starting to look like you are screaming out for attention. Once again, I recommend you participate on other threads and start your own at a much slower rate. Realize that not all your posts are going to be super interesting to everyone and that some won’t even get responses, but more or less you can be in the conversation.I,for one,would not like to see you go up in flames.
Best wishesJune 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM #56866Participant“I believe when you see as many High End Areas showing large declines in Median Prices, for LA, SD and Orange Counties during the same month, the data is telling you something. Others think it is just statistical noise.”
I think you make a good point here.It is not just one zip code or even two or three but quite a few but not enough to force a consensus that high priced areas will immediately implode. I think you got your finger on the pulse of the market pretty good.The pulse is weak. You night be right that the market is having a complete coronary malfunction. Does that mean that everyone must submit to all your opinions to the exact same degree that you hold them and put you on center stage forever? Seems like you are pretty demanding.IMHO.
I agree with CardiffBaseball and you know I already made similiar suggestions. It is starting to look like you are screaming out for attention. Once again, I recommend you participate on other threads and start your own at a much slower rate. Realize that not all your posts are going to be super interesting to everyone and that some won’t even get responses, but more or less you can be in the conversation.I,for one,would not like to see you go up in flames.
Best wishesJune 5, 2007 at 3:43 PM #56875Ash Housewares
ParticipantMy opinion-
Who cares what the May numbers say?We all know the market is declining and that the Case-Shiller index is the best (but not perfect) way of measuring the price movement. Forget about the median. Don’t even bother looking at it; it is junk. Some will argue that the Case-Shiller lags the market, but I really don’t care. The bottom will last for several years, so I don’t need up to the minute information.
June 5, 2007 at 3:43 PM #56897ParticipantMy opinion-
Who cares what the May numbers say?We all know the market is declining and that the Case-Shiller index is the best (but not perfect) way of measuring the price movement. Forget about the median. Don’t even bother looking at it; it is junk. Some will argue that the Case-Shiller lags the market, but I really don’t care. The bottom will last for several years, so I don’t need up to the minute information.
June 5, 2007 at 4:45 PM #56896ParticipantMacro vs Micro. I think the basic difference here is, I have a different view, than most on this board. I am looking at the overall Southern California Real Estate Market and things that are happening at the National Level such as credit tightening,foreclusures, REOs etc, and most here are looking at just, San Diego. I work full time as science teacher and don’t have the luxury of following every single thread here. Sorry. If there is something I am thinking about, than I am going to share it. And because I happen to be extremely bearish on the health of the market, you think I am expecting your agreement. I could care less if you agree or don’t agree. I watch trends, make observations, present data and form conclusions. Plain and simple. If you are just concentrating on an isolated market, than you aren’t seeing the big picture. And the big picture seems pretty bleak, In my opinion. I am not here to argue with anyone. I encourage others opinions, but am getting tired of all the accusations. I choose to be a part of this forum, and NOBODY else here, has the right to think they are the authority. An Internet forum is a form of social discourse, and if you take offense to what I have to say, than go somewhere else. Period.
My prediction, is that we will witness serious volume declines this month in all 3 counties, across the board. The median may drop as well, but is incidental, as the numbers can be skewed.
What is your prediction? Step up to the plate and tell us what you think about the marketplace.
June 5, 2007 at 4:45 PM #56919ParticipantMacro vs Micro. I think the basic difference here is, I have a different view, than most on this board. I am looking at the overall Southern California Real Estate Market and things that are happening at the National Level such as credit tightening,foreclusures, REOs etc, and most here are looking at just, San Diego. I work full time as science teacher and don’t have the luxury of following every single thread here. Sorry. If there is something I am thinking about, than I am going to share it. And because I happen to be extremely bearish on the health of the market, you think I am expecting your agreement. I could care less if you agree or don’t agree. I watch trends, make observations, present data and form conclusions. Plain and simple. If you are just concentrating on an isolated market, than you aren’t seeing the big picture. And the big picture seems pretty bleak, In my opinion. I am not here to argue with anyone. I encourage others opinions, but am getting tired of all the accusations. I choose to be a part of this forum, and NOBODY else here, has the right to think they are the authority. An Internet forum is a form of social discourse, and if you take offense to what I have to say, than go somewhere else. Period.
My prediction, is that we will witness serious volume declines this month in all 3 counties, across the board. The median may drop as well, but is incidental, as the numbers can be skewed.
What is your prediction? Step up to the plate and tell us what you think about the marketplace.
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