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January 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM #11598
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January 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM #140884
kewp
ParticipantWhy not have both?
Food and energy costs are inflating against a deflating dollar.
Real-estate is rapidly deflating, however given that this is a collapsing bubble I don’t think its an appropriate usage of the term. “Correcting” is more like it.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM #141107
kewp
ParticipantWhy not have both?
Food and energy costs are inflating against a deflating dollar.
Real-estate is rapidly deflating, however given that this is a collapsing bubble I don’t think its an appropriate usage of the term. “Correcting” is more like it.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM #141123
kewp
ParticipantWhy not have both?
Food and energy costs are inflating against a deflating dollar.
Real-estate is rapidly deflating, however given that this is a collapsing bubble I don’t think its an appropriate usage of the term. “Correcting” is more like it.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM #141149
kewp
ParticipantWhy not have both?
Food and energy costs are inflating against a deflating dollar.
Real-estate is rapidly deflating, however given that this is a collapsing bubble I don’t think its an appropriate usage of the term. “Correcting” is more like it.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM #141205
kewp
ParticipantWhy not have both?
Food and energy costs are inflating against a deflating dollar.
Real-estate is rapidly deflating, however given that this is a collapsing bubble I don’t think its an appropriate usage of the term. “Correcting” is more like it.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM #140908
treylane
ParticipantThere’s prettymuch always some of both. π
In this case, I can see prices for certain “essential” imports such as food and energy rising, while consumers hold their pocketbooks a little tighter and cause deflation prettymuch across the board.
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January 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM #140943
pencilneck
ParticipantBoth is my opinion too.
The problem with the classical deflationary argument is that it only works if the currency can hold value while the economy is doing poorly. A currency based on gold, for example, can do this.
The value of a currency based upon imagination and wishfull thinking can fall even while true deflation via debt destruction is occuring.
In Argentina, for example, they recently had a banking crisis that caused very much money to evaporate. This is deflationary in the monetary sense. However, as faith was lost in the currency(both nationally and internationally) the value of the currency dropped as well. Meaning that prices continued to rise even while deflation was occuring faster the ability to create new money.
The debt crisis in the U.S. is deflationary in the monetary sense. But we are also seeing both true inflation in other areas and a lack of confidence in the dollar.
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January 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM #141167
pencilneck
ParticipantBoth is my opinion too.
The problem with the classical deflationary argument is that it only works if the currency can hold value while the economy is doing poorly. A currency based on gold, for example, can do this.
The value of a currency based upon imagination and wishfull thinking can fall even while true deflation via debt destruction is occuring.
In Argentina, for example, they recently had a banking crisis that caused very much money to evaporate. This is deflationary in the monetary sense. However, as faith was lost in the currency(both nationally and internationally) the value of the currency dropped as well. Meaning that prices continued to rise even while deflation was occuring faster the ability to create new money.
The debt crisis in the U.S. is deflationary in the monetary sense. But we are also seeing both true inflation in other areas and a lack of confidence in the dollar.
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January 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM #141183
pencilneck
ParticipantBoth is my opinion too.
The problem with the classical deflationary argument is that it only works if the currency can hold value while the economy is doing poorly. A currency based on gold, for example, can do this.
The value of a currency based upon imagination and wishfull thinking can fall even while true deflation via debt destruction is occuring.
In Argentina, for example, they recently had a banking crisis that caused very much money to evaporate. This is deflationary in the monetary sense. However, as faith was lost in the currency(both nationally and internationally) the value of the currency dropped as well. Meaning that prices continued to rise even while deflation was occuring faster the ability to create new money.
The debt crisis in the U.S. is deflationary in the monetary sense. But we are also seeing both true inflation in other areas and a lack of confidence in the dollar.
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January 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM #141208
pencilneck
ParticipantBoth is my opinion too.
The problem with the classical deflationary argument is that it only works if the currency can hold value while the economy is doing poorly. A currency based on gold, for example, can do this.
The value of a currency based upon imagination and wishfull thinking can fall even while true deflation via debt destruction is occuring.
In Argentina, for example, they recently had a banking crisis that caused very much money to evaporate. This is deflationary in the monetary sense. However, as faith was lost in the currency(both nationally and internationally) the value of the currency dropped as well. Meaning that prices continued to rise even while deflation was occuring faster the ability to create new money.
The debt crisis in the U.S. is deflationary in the monetary sense. But we are also seeing both true inflation in other areas and a lack of confidence in the dollar.
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January 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM #141265
pencilneck
ParticipantBoth is my opinion too.
The problem with the classical deflationary argument is that it only works if the currency can hold value while the economy is doing poorly. A currency based on gold, for example, can do this.
The value of a currency based upon imagination and wishfull thinking can fall even while true deflation via debt destruction is occuring.
In Argentina, for example, they recently had a banking crisis that caused very much money to evaporate. This is deflationary in the monetary sense. However, as faith was lost in the currency(both nationally and internationally) the value of the currency dropped as well. Meaning that prices continued to rise even while deflation was occuring faster the ability to create new money.
The debt crisis in the U.S. is deflationary in the monetary sense. But we are also seeing both true inflation in other areas and a lack of confidence in the dollar.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM #141131
treylane
ParticipantThere’s prettymuch always some of both. π
In this case, I can see prices for certain “essential” imports such as food and energy rising, while consumers hold their pocketbooks a little tighter and cause deflation prettymuch across the board.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM #141147
treylane
ParticipantThere’s prettymuch always some of both. π
In this case, I can see prices for certain “essential” imports such as food and energy rising, while consumers hold their pocketbooks a little tighter and cause deflation prettymuch across the board.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM #141174
treylane
ParticipantThere’s prettymuch always some of both. π
In this case, I can see prices for certain “essential” imports such as food and energy rising, while consumers hold their pocketbooks a little tighter and cause deflation prettymuch across the board.
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January 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM #141230
treylane
ParticipantThere’s prettymuch always some of both. π
In this case, I can see prices for certain “essential” imports such as food and energy rising, while consumers hold their pocketbooks a little tighter and cause deflation prettymuch across the board.
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January 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM #140989
bubble_contagion
ParticipantInflation for imports and commodities, deflation for real state, services and US made products (the few left).
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January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM #141049
bob007
Participantinflation for necessities like food, energy
deflation for optional items like ipods, SUVs
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January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM #141273
bob007
Participantinflation for necessities like food, energy
deflation for optional items like ipods, SUVs
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January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM #141286
bob007
Participantinflation for necessities like food, energy
deflation for optional items like ipods, SUVs
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January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM #141314
bob007
Participantinflation for necessities like food, energy
deflation for optional items like ipods, SUVs
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January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM #141370
bob007
Participantinflation for necessities like food, energy
deflation for optional items like ipods, SUVs
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January 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM #141212
bubble_contagion
ParticipantInflation for imports and commodities, deflation for real state, services and US made products (the few left).
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January 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM #141229
bubble_contagion
ParticipantInflation for imports and commodities, deflation for real state, services and US made products (the few left).
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January 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM #141252
bubble_contagion
ParticipantInflation for imports and commodities, deflation for real state, services and US made products (the few left).
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January 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM #141310
bubble_contagion
ParticipantInflation for imports and commodities, deflation for real state, services and US made products (the few left).
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