I find it interesting!!

[barnaby33]

socrattt, your post was a rant of the type that pops up quite often here. It starts out with a rational observation/premise then decends into a diatribe.

Nobody can long focus on the housing bubble and not come to realize its a credit bubble with a housing symptom. Furthermore you can’t understand the credit bubble unless you get off your fixation on high RE prices and explore other bubbles.

As to Obama, remember it was a binary choice. I voted for him not because I had much hope, but because the other guy was worse. Your simple minded view of politics says a lot, but none of it has much to do with your initial premise which was that this site has morphed from just being about RE, to being about the wider bubbled out world we live in.

I for one am glad for that expansion.

Josh

[moneymaker]

Socratt,
I can tell you are one smart person, I agree with much of what you say. I do take exception with “ignoring” other countries. We are trully in a global marketplace and because of that it would be a huge mistake for Obama to raise tariffs or trade barriers(that single thing is what set off the great depression of ’29-’33). I think Obama needs to pull a Bill Clinton and stand up and give a good speech about supporting Americans and their products but just don’t legislate it. A near bankrupt Federal government cannot “save us”. I believe in “buying american”, but only when it is a quality product. One last thing, why does everyone believe the bailout it is a handout, remember it is a loan, could it be no one believes it will be repaid?

[moneymaker]

Socratt,
I can tell you are one smart person, I agree with much of what you say. I do take exception with “ignoring” other countries. We are trully in a global marketplace and because of that it would be a huge mistake for Obama to raise tariffs or trade barriers(that single thing is what set off the great depression of ’29-’33). I think Obama needs to pull a Bill Clinton and stand up and give a good speech about supporting Americans and their products but just don’t legislate it. A near bankrupt Federal government cannot “save us”. I believe in “buying american”, but only when it is a quality product. One last thing, why does everyone believe the bailout it is a handout, remember it is a loan, could it be no one believes it will be repaid?

[moneymaker]

Socratt,
I can tell you are one smart person, I agree with much of what you say. I do take exception with “ignoring” other countries. We are trully in a global marketplace and because of that it would be a huge mistake for Obama to raise tariffs or trade barriers(that single thing is what set off the great depression of ’29-’33). I think Obama needs to pull a Bill Clinton and stand up and give a good speech about supporting Americans and their products but just don’t legislate it. A near bankrupt Federal government cannot “save us”. I believe in “buying american”, but only when it is a quality product. One last thing, why does everyone believe the bailout it is a handout, remember it is a loan, could it be no one believes it will be repaid?

[moneymaker]

Socratt,
I can tell you are one smart person, I agree with much of what you say. I do take exception with “ignoring” other countries. We are trully in a global marketplace and because of that it would be a huge mistake for Obama to raise tariffs or trade barriers(that single thing is what set off the great depression of ’29-’33). I think Obama needs to pull a Bill Clinton and stand up and give a good speech about supporting Americans and their products but just don’t legislate it. A near bankrupt Federal government cannot “save us”. I believe in “buying american”, but only when it is a quality product. One last thing, why does everyone believe the bailout it is a handout, remember it is a loan, could it be no one believes it will be repaid?

[moneymaker]

Socratt,
I can tell you are one smart person, I agree with much of what you say. I do take exception with “ignoring” other countries. We are trully in a global marketplace and because of that it would be a huge mistake for Obama to raise tariffs or trade barriers(that single thing is what set off the great depression of ’29-’33). I think Obama needs to pull a Bill Clinton and stand up and give a good speech about supporting Americans and their products but just don’t legislate it. A near bankrupt Federal government cannot “save us”. I believe in “buying american”, but only when it is a quality product. One last thing, why does everyone believe the bailout it is a handout, remember it is a loan, could it be no one believes it will be repaid?

[gandalf]

Those are good comments, threadkiller.

Yeah, I’m not very pleased about the bailout either but it’s not the bogeyman people are making it out to be.

We’ve got very serious economic imbalances and structural finance problems. I think they’re essentially trying to monetize the debt hanging over us, and to the extent that the world is willing to accomodate that, they might be successful. Net effects are going to be very painful for lots of average Americans regardless.

There should be *many* people in jail at this point. And no more obscene bonuses, private jets and ‘CEO-perks’ using taxpayer dollars.

[gandalf]

Those are good comments, threadkiller.

Yeah, I’m not very pleased about the bailout either but it’s not the bogeyman people are making it out to be.

We’ve got very serious economic imbalances and structural finance problems. I think they’re essentially trying to monetize the debt hanging over us, and to the extent that the world is willing to accomodate that, they might be successful. Net effects are going to be very painful for lots of average Americans regardless.

There should be *many* people in jail at this point. And no more obscene bonuses, private jets and ‘CEO-perks’ using taxpayer dollars.

[gandalf]

Those are good comments, threadkiller.

Yeah, I’m not very pleased about the bailout either but it’s not the bogeyman people are making it out to be.

We’ve got very serious economic imbalances and structural finance problems. I think they’re essentially trying to monetize the debt hanging over us, and to the extent that the world is willing to accomodate that, they might be successful. Net effects are going to be very painful for lots of average Americans regardless.

There should be *many* people in jail at this point. And no more obscene bonuses, private jets and ‘CEO-perks’ using taxpayer dollars.

[gandalf]

Those are good comments, threadkiller.

Yeah, I’m not very pleased about the bailout either but it’s not the bogeyman people are making it out to be.

We’ve got very serious economic imbalances and structural finance problems. I think they’re essentially trying to monetize the debt hanging over us, and to the extent that the world is willing to accomodate that, they might be successful. Net effects are going to be very painful for lots of average Americans regardless.

There should be *many* people in jail at this point. And no more obscene bonuses, private jets and ‘CEO-perks’ using taxpayer dollars.

[gandalf]

Those are good comments, threadkiller.

Yeah, I’m not very pleased about the bailout either but it’s not the bogeyman people are making it out to be.

We’ve got very serious economic imbalances and structural finance problems. I think they’re essentially trying to monetize the debt hanging over us, and to the extent that the world is willing to accomodate that, they might be successful. Net effects are going to be very painful for lots of average Americans regardless.

There should be *many* people in jail at this point. And no more obscene bonuses, private jets and ‘CEO-perks’ using taxpayer dollars.

[gandalf]

Hey AFF, hope you’re doing well. Here’s my answer: I don’t know that I have any very meaningful impressions of the Obama admin so far. Certainly one of the most incredibly challenging transitions in our nation’s history.

They bungled a couple of the nominations, Geithner and Daschle in particular. Geithner, while he may be the ‘man’ in Treasury, he’s also a tax cheat and shouldn’t be in charge of the division that oversees the freaking IRS. That’s just crap. And Daschle? Well, I never liked him that much anyway. Couldn’t even tell you why.

Overall, I’m more *struck* by my impressions of the GOP opposition. What a bunch of crying, whining, bitching, pansy-ass losers. From Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes the Obama admin fails (that fat-fuck, drug-addict piece of shit), to John ‘crybaby’ Boehner and Eric ‘sensitive’ Cantor, to DICK Cheney suggesting another terrorist attack is the fault of the Obama administration because they don’t want to keep America safe…

(I’m all for free speech but there are consequences to what you say, especially in politics. If I were Obama and Cheney said this two weeks into my term, I would immediately pursue an investigation into war crimes against key Bush officials. The gloves come off. At this point, we all know the facts. They are guilty of EXTREMELY SERIOUS CRIMES. The only thing standing between them and a firing line is Obama’s determination to set a more bi-partisan course.)

We’ve got major problems and a bi-partisan course is required. So far, it seems as though the Obama administration and democratic majority has been pretty fair with the republican side, concessions on various bills and so forth. I’d also say, give these GOP bums 3 more months and if they don’t change their approach, nail them to the fucking wall. A LARGE MAJORITY of voters made a decision last fall but these ass-clowns on the right don’t seem to have gotten the memo.

That’s my unvarnished take.

[gandalf]

Hey AFF, hope you’re doing well. Here’s my answer: I don’t know that I have any very meaningful impressions of the Obama admin so far. Certainly one of the most incredibly challenging transitions in our nation’s history.

They bungled a couple of the nominations, Geithner and Daschle in particular. Geithner, while he may be the ‘man’ in Treasury, he’s also a tax cheat and shouldn’t be in charge of the division that oversees the freaking IRS. That’s just crap. And Daschle? Well, I never liked him that much anyway. Couldn’t even tell you why.

Overall, I’m more *struck* by my impressions of the GOP opposition. What a bunch of crying, whining, bitching, pansy-ass losers. From Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes the Obama admin fails (that fat-fuck, drug-addict piece of shit), to John ‘crybaby’ Boehner and Eric ‘sensitive’ Cantor, to DICK Cheney suggesting another terrorist attack is the fault of the Obama administration because they don’t want to keep America safe…

(I’m all for free speech but there are consequences to what you say, especially in politics. If I were Obama and Cheney said this two weeks into my term, I would immediately pursue an investigation into war crimes against key Bush officials. The gloves come off. At this point, we all know the facts. They are guilty of EXTREMELY SERIOUS CRIMES. The only thing standing between them and a firing line is Obama’s determination to set a more bi-partisan course.)

We’ve got major problems and a bi-partisan course is required. So far, it seems as though the Obama administration and democratic majority has been pretty fair with the republican side, concessions on various bills and so forth. I’d also say, give these GOP bums 3 more months and if they don’t change their approach, nail them to the fucking wall. A LARGE MAJORITY of voters made a decision last fall but these ass-clowns on the right don’t seem to have gotten the memo.

That’s my unvarnished take.

[gandalf]

Hey AFF, hope you’re doing well. Here’s my answer: I don’t know that I have any very meaningful impressions of the Obama admin so far. Certainly one of the most incredibly challenging transitions in our nation’s history.

They bungled a couple of the nominations, Geithner and Daschle in particular. Geithner, while he may be the ‘man’ in Treasury, he’s also a tax cheat and shouldn’t be in charge of the division that oversees the freaking IRS. That’s just crap. And Daschle? Well, I never liked him that much anyway. Couldn’t even tell you why.

Overall, I’m more *struck* by my impressions of the GOP opposition. What a bunch of crying, whining, bitching, pansy-ass losers. From Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes the Obama admin fails (that fat-fuck, drug-addict piece of shit), to John ‘crybaby’ Boehner and Eric ‘sensitive’ Cantor, to DICK Cheney suggesting another terrorist attack is the fault of the Obama administration because they don’t want to keep America safe…

(I’m all for free speech but there are consequences to what you say, especially in politics. If I were Obama and Cheney said this two weeks into my term, I would immediately pursue an investigation into war crimes against key Bush officials. The gloves come off. At this point, we all know the facts. They are guilty of EXTREMELY SERIOUS CRIMES. The only thing standing between them and a firing line is Obama’s determination to set a more bi-partisan course.)

We’ve got major problems and a bi-partisan course is required. So far, it seems as though the Obama administration and democratic majority has been pretty fair with the republican side, concessions on various bills and so forth. I’d also say, give these GOP bums 3 more months and if they don’t change their approach, nail them to the fucking wall. A LARGE MAJORITY of voters made a decision last fall but these ass-clowns on the right don’t seem to have gotten the memo.

That’s my unvarnished take.

[gandalf]

Hey AFF, hope you’re doing well. Here’s my answer: I don’t know that I have any very meaningful impressions of the Obama admin so far. Certainly one of the most incredibly challenging transitions in our nation’s history.

They bungled a couple of the nominations, Geithner and Daschle in particular. Geithner, while he may be the ‘man’ in Treasury, he’s also a tax cheat and shouldn’t be in charge of the division that oversees the freaking IRS. That’s just crap. And Daschle? Well, I never liked him that much anyway. Couldn’t even tell you why.

Overall, I’m more *struck* by my impressions of the GOP opposition. What a bunch of crying, whining, bitching, pansy-ass losers. From Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes the Obama admin fails (that fat-fuck, drug-addict piece of shit), to John ‘crybaby’ Boehner and Eric ‘sensitive’ Cantor, to DICK Cheney suggesting another terrorist attack is the fault of the Obama administration because they don’t want to keep America safe…

(I’m all for free speech but there are consequences to what you say, especially in politics. If I were Obama and Cheney said this two weeks into my term, I would immediately pursue an investigation into war crimes against key Bush officials. The gloves come off. At this point, we all know the facts. They are guilty of EXTREMELY SERIOUS CRIMES. The only thing standing between them and a firing line is Obama’s determination to set a more bi-partisan course.)

We’ve got major problems and a bi-partisan course is required. So far, it seems as though the Obama administration and democratic majority has been pretty fair with the republican side, concessions on various bills and so forth. I’d also say, give these GOP bums 3 more months and if they don’t change their approach, nail them to the fucking wall. A LARGE MAJORITY of voters made a decision last fall but these ass-clowns on the right don’t seem to have gotten the memo.

That’s my unvarnished take.

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