I find it interesting!!

[socrattt]

Anyone here realize what Piggington has turned into? The talk about overpriced communities and bad photos have all but disappeared on these forums. Everything now seems to be the focused on how the government is planning to stimulate what should have been left alone or how high our new tax rates will be. Let’s be honest these bailout plans are nothing more than a waste of our tax dollars and way to try to keep home prices stable, so that government can make their money back. I can only imagine how life would be if we just let this market fall to the bottom and the “cash as king” buyers would pick everything up for pennies on the dollar and allow this market to get back on its’ feet.

Obama mentioned a catastrophe without passing the stimulus plan. The catastrophe is not allowing those with cash to actually pull the trigger due to over inflated home values. I am laughing that places like San Elijo Hills or 4Close Ranch seem to be holding values over the last few months. Other places like Carmeled Valley are still dancing with Peter Pan in Never Never Land.

My frustration has actually turned to amusement. What else can you do when you the government has taken every step to impede the progress of the falling markets. It’s not only happening in our residential RE markets but also our stock markets. Why would the stock markets remain stable at a time where unemployment is at all time highs and consumer spending at all time lows, go figure.

I really do fear for those who are blinded by this light of a government that promises to protect the people. Bush and Obama are both bad moves for this country. Obama today decided to allow the USS Cole bomber to walk free, and old Hilary is planning to make a deal with Russia to dramatically reduce our nuclear power. Sounds great, I am sure Russia doesn’t have any secret tunnels to stash their nuclear warheads. They have always been an honest bunch and I can only imagine they would cooperate.

Not only are we going to be emotionally weak in the coming months, but we will be militarily weak due to our new liberal government who are more concerned about how other countries look at us. I am thinking that we should focus on our economy and our military and forget about every other country at this point. If the US dollar is no longer the reserve currency of the globe imagine how San Diego will start looking much more like TJ.

Let’s go back to the days of being “Producers not Consumers”, maybe at that point America can figure itself out. We have millions upon millions of unspoiled acres in this country with some of the most incredible untouched natural resources in the world. Let’s focus on the real things that will stimulate the economy. T. Boone seems to be on the right page, but our government keeps following the CEO’s around town with a free bailout!!

[gandalf]

Socratt, you’ve got a lot of good points in there.

I’ve thought through the “Let it fail” argument quite a bit. I’m sympathetic. Who are these banking fuckers spending bailout money on baseball stadiums, jet planes and obscene bonuses???

End rant.

Did you see the jobs numbers today?

The economy accelerates in good times, multipliers and leverage — but what is happening now is the exact reverse, and the risk is things get VERY bad, worse than they would be without government support.

What would you do here? Really?

These are really very serious times.

My fears are currency failure and massive Great Depression-era unemployment. Never thought either would ever happen in my lifetime.

[gandalf]

Socratt, you’ve got a lot of good points in there.

I’ve thought through the “Let it fail” argument quite a bit. I’m sympathetic. Who are these banking fuckers spending bailout money on baseball stadiums, jet planes and obscene bonuses???

End rant.

Did you see the jobs numbers today?

The economy accelerates in good times, multipliers and leverage — but what is happening now is the exact reverse, and the risk is things get VERY bad, worse than they would be without government support.

What would you do here? Really?

These are really very serious times.

My fears are currency failure and massive Great Depression-era unemployment. Never thought either would ever happen in my lifetime.

[gandalf]

Socratt, you’ve got a lot of good points in there.

I’ve thought through the “Let it fail” argument quite a bit. I’m sympathetic. Who are these banking fuckers spending bailout money on baseball stadiums, jet planes and obscene bonuses???

End rant.

Did you see the jobs numbers today?

The economy accelerates in good times, multipliers and leverage — but what is happening now is the exact reverse, and the risk is things get VERY bad, worse than they would be without government support.

What would you do here? Really?

These are really very serious times.

My fears are currency failure and massive Great Depression-era unemployment. Never thought either would ever happen in my lifetime.

[gandalf]

Socratt, you’ve got a lot of good points in there.

I’ve thought through the “Let it fail” argument quite a bit. I’m sympathetic. Who are these banking fuckers spending bailout money on baseball stadiums, jet planes and obscene bonuses???

End rant.

Did you see the jobs numbers today?

The economy accelerates in good times, multipliers and leverage — but what is happening now is the exact reverse, and the risk is things get VERY bad, worse than they would be without government support.

What would you do here? Really?

These are really very serious times.

My fears are currency failure and massive Great Depression-era unemployment. Never thought either would ever happen in my lifetime.

[gandalf]

Socratt, you’ve got a lot of good points in there.

I’ve thought through the “Let it fail” argument quite a bit. I’m sympathetic. Who are these banking fuckers spending bailout money on baseball stadiums, jet planes and obscene bonuses???

End rant.

Did you see the jobs numbers today?

The economy accelerates in good times, multipliers and leverage — but what is happening now is the exact reverse, and the risk is things get VERY bad, worse than they would be without government support.

What would you do here? Really?

These are really very serious times.

My fears are currency failure and massive Great Depression-era unemployment. Never thought either would ever happen in my lifetime.

[CostaMesa]

Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill

(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill

LEt’s see how this math works.

Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.

Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality!

[CostaMesa]

Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill

(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill

LEt’s see how this math works.

Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.

Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality!

[CostaMesa]

Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill

(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill

LEt’s see how this math works.

Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.

Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality!

[CostaMesa]

Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill

(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill

LEt’s see how this math works.

Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.

Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality!

[CostaMesa]

Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill

(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill

LEt’s see how this math works.

Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.

Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Gandalf: What up, dude? Question for you. You’re a level headed centrist and were a pretty strong advocate for Obama prior to Election Day. What’s your take on him now? And that question is asked without bias, just genuine curiosity.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Gandalf: What up, dude? Question for you. You’re a level headed centrist and were a pretty strong advocate for Obama prior to Election Day. What’s your take on him now? And that question is asked without bias, just genuine curiosity.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Gandalf: What up, dude? Question for you. You’re a level headed centrist and were a pretty strong advocate for Obama prior to Election Day. What’s your take on him now? And that question is asked without bias, just genuine curiosity.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Gandalf: What up, dude? Question for you. You’re a level headed centrist and were a pretty strong advocate for Obama prior to Election Day. What’s your take on him now? And that question is asked without bias, just genuine curiosity.

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