HS teacher-$70K for 9 months of work

[SDEngineer]

[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]

Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]

Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.

In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=kev374][quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]

I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.

How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?

Comparing the two is just ridiculous![/quote]

IIRC, SD Realtor IS in fact an engineer (as are many on this board). I think he does realize. I think you don’t realize how difficult dealing with 150+ teenagers (assuming 5 classes of 30 teens each) can be on a daily basis. I may retire into teaching some day, but it will be because I enjoy imparting knowledge and think I can make a difference – it won’t be because I think the job is “easy” – because it isn’t.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=kev374][quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]

I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.

How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?

Comparing the two is just ridiculous![/quote]

IIRC, SD Realtor IS in fact an engineer (as are many on this board). I think he does realize. I think you don’t realize how difficult dealing with 150+ teenagers (assuming 5 classes of 30 teens each) can be on a daily basis. I may retire into teaching some day, but it will be because I enjoy imparting knowledge and think I can make a difference – it won’t be because I think the job is “easy” – because it isn’t.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=kev374][quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]

I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.

How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?

Comparing the two is just ridiculous![/quote]

IIRC, SD Realtor IS in fact an engineer (as are many on this board). I think he does realize. I think you don’t realize how difficult dealing with 150+ teenagers (assuming 5 classes of 30 teens each) can be on a daily basis. I may retire into teaching some day, but it will be because I enjoy imparting knowledge and think I can make a difference – it won’t be because I think the job is “easy” – because it isn’t.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=kev374][quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]

I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.

How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?

Comparing the two is just ridiculous![/quote]

IIRC, SD Realtor IS in fact an engineer (as are many on this board). I think he does realize. I think you don’t realize how difficult dealing with 150+ teenagers (assuming 5 classes of 30 teens each) can be on a daily basis. I may retire into teaching some day, but it will be because I enjoy imparting knowledge and think I can make a difference – it won’t be because I think the job is “easy” – because it isn’t.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=kev374][quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]

I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.

How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?

Comparing the two is just ridiculous![/quote]

IIRC, SD Realtor IS in fact an engineer (as are many on this board). I think he does realize. I think you don’t realize how difficult dealing with 150+ teenagers (assuming 5 classes of 30 teens each) can be on a daily basis. I may retire into teaching some day, but it will be because I enjoy imparting knowledge and think I can make a difference – it won’t be because I think the job is “easy” – because it isn’t.

[teatsonabull]

@kev374:

“How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?”

Did you teach yourself the math and science required to be able to “fix mission critical” systems? If not, aren’t you glad your math and science teachers were paid more than 30K a year….c’mon those are fast-food manager wages, dude!!

Also, teachers are working with valuable “systems” as well, if you consider that each human will be around for an extra 50-70 years beyond high school.

When you begin to think of yourself as doing God’s work, err..working on mission critical systems, lest ye never forget that Enron and pets.com both had mission critical systems, too (how’d that work out for everybody??)….most of us believe that fat, donut-eating geeks, who live for Comic-con (not teachers) are the ones who are overpaid;)

[teatsonabull]

@kev374:

“How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?”

Did you teach yourself the math and science required to be able to “fix mission critical” systems? If not, aren’t you glad your math and science teachers were paid more than 30K a year….c’mon those are fast-food manager wages, dude!!

Also, teachers are working with valuable “systems” as well, if you consider that each human will be around for an extra 50-70 years beyond high school.

When you begin to think of yourself as doing God’s work, err..working on mission critical systems, lest ye never forget that Enron and pets.com both had mission critical systems, too (how’d that work out for everybody??)….most of us believe that fat, donut-eating geeks, who live for Comic-con (not teachers) are the ones who are overpaid;)

[teatsonabull]

@kev374:

“How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?”

Did you teach yourself the math and science required to be able to “fix mission critical” systems? If not, aren’t you glad your math and science teachers were paid more than 30K a year….c’mon those are fast-food manager wages, dude!!

Also, teachers are working with valuable “systems” as well, if you consider that each human will be around for an extra 50-70 years beyond high school.

When you begin to think of yourself as doing God’s work, err..working on mission critical systems, lest ye never forget that Enron and pets.com both had mission critical systems, too (how’d that work out for everybody??)….most of us believe that fat, donut-eating geeks, who live for Comic-con (not teachers) are the ones who are overpaid;)

[teatsonabull]

@kev374:

“How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?”

Did you teach yourself the math and science required to be able to “fix mission critical” systems? If not, aren’t you glad your math and science teachers were paid more than 30K a year….c’mon those are fast-food manager wages, dude!!

Also, teachers are working with valuable “systems” as well, if you consider that each human will be around for an extra 50-70 years beyond high school.

When you begin to think of yourself as doing God’s work, err..working on mission critical systems, lest ye never forget that Enron and pets.com both had mission critical systems, too (how’d that work out for everybody??)….most of us believe that fat, donut-eating geeks, who live for Comic-con (not teachers) are the ones who are overpaid;)

[teatsonabull]

@kev374:

“How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?”

Did you teach yourself the math and science required to be able to “fix mission critical” systems? If not, aren’t you glad your math and science teachers were paid more than 30K a year….c’mon those are fast-food manager wages, dude!!

Also, teachers are working with valuable “systems” as well, if you consider that each human will be around for an extra 50-70 years beyond high school.

When you begin to think of yourself as doing God’s work, err..working on mission critical systems, lest ye never forget that Enron and pets.com both had mission critical systems, too (how’d that work out for everybody??)….most of us believe that fat, donut-eating geeks, who live for Comic-con (not teachers) are the ones who are overpaid;)

[meadandale]

My niece is in the IE (Corona/Riverside area) and she’s pulling in over $90k for 9 months teaching 1st freaking grade.

Yeah, I’d say that some of our teachers are just a tad overpaid.

[meadandale]

My niece is in the IE (Corona/Riverside area) and she’s pulling in over $90k for 9 months teaching 1st freaking grade.

Yeah, I’d say that some of our teachers are just a tad overpaid.

[meadandale]

My niece is in the IE (Corona/Riverside area) and she’s pulling in over $90k for 9 months teaching 1st freaking grade.

Yeah, I’d say that some of our teachers are just a tad overpaid.

[meadandale]

My niece is in the IE (Corona/Riverside area) and she’s pulling in over $90k for 9 months teaching 1st freaking grade.

Yeah, I’d say that some of our teachers are just a tad overpaid.

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