Healthcare is not a right!?

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if you put your mind to it, you could gain 200 lbs. it’s a matter of thought; you’re just not thinking right. you just need to relax, sit back, eat the right things, watch tv, and try not to move.

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I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?[/quote]

You are referring to the Waianae Diet. An attempt to address the obesity and it’s related problems within the Hawaiian community. The problem when you refer to their digestive systems not evolving is whose has? Have you seen what these people eat??? Loco moco, mayonaise on chili, gravy, spam, potatoe salad….

They actually theorize that as for polynesian races inhabiting the furthermost islands (Hawaii), the larger individuals were the only ones capable of surviving. Think fat stores. So, the theory (which is pretty widely accepted) is the polynesians who were able to survive long canoe rides were larger to begin with. The Alii (ruling class) were actually quite rotund. It was a sign of wealth and privelege. They would actually have servants knead their stomachs to enable them to eat more so they could get bigger.

In my opinion the polynesians who eat right, surf, dive, work out, are an extremely physically beautiful people. The mixture of asian ethnicities with the polynesians has not hurt looks either.

Ahhhh, Hawaii. I went to college there and lived there for 13 years. I do miss it (but not the food).

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I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?[/quote]

You are referring to the Waianae Diet. An attempt to address the obesity and it’s related problems within the Hawaiian community. The problem when you refer to their digestive systems not evolving is whose has? Have you seen what these people eat??? Loco moco, mayonaise on chili, gravy, spam, potatoe salad….

They actually theorize that as for polynesian races inhabiting the furthermost islands (Hawaii), the larger individuals were the only ones capable of surviving. Think fat stores. So, the theory (which is pretty widely accepted) is the polynesians who were able to survive long canoe rides were larger to begin with. The Alii (ruling class) were actually quite rotund. It was a sign of wealth and privelege. They would actually have servants knead their stomachs to enable them to eat more so they could get bigger.

In my opinion the polynesians who eat right, surf, dive, work out, are an extremely physically beautiful people. The mixture of asian ethnicities with the polynesians has not hurt looks either.

Ahhhh, Hawaii. I went to college there and lived there for 13 years. I do miss it (but not the food).

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I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?[/quote]

You are referring to the Waianae Diet. An attempt to address the obesity and it’s related problems within the Hawaiian community. The problem when you refer to their digestive systems not evolving is whose has? Have you seen what these people eat??? Loco moco, mayonaise on chili, gravy, spam, potatoe salad….

They actually theorize that as for polynesian races inhabiting the furthermost islands (Hawaii), the larger individuals were the only ones capable of surviving. Think fat stores. So, the theory (which is pretty widely accepted) is the polynesians who were able to survive long canoe rides were larger to begin with. The Alii (ruling class) were actually quite rotund. It was a sign of wealth and privelege. They would actually have servants knead their stomachs to enable them to eat more so they could get bigger.

In my opinion the polynesians who eat right, surf, dive, work out, are an extremely physically beautiful people. The mixture of asian ethnicities with the polynesians has not hurt looks either.

Ahhhh, Hawaii. I went to college there and lived there for 13 years. I do miss it (but not the food).

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I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?[/quote]

You are referring to the Waianae Diet. An attempt to address the obesity and it’s related problems within the Hawaiian community. The problem when you refer to their digestive systems not evolving is whose has? Have you seen what these people eat??? Loco moco, mayonaise on chili, gravy, spam, potatoe salad….

They actually theorize that as for polynesian races inhabiting the furthermost islands (Hawaii), the larger individuals were the only ones capable of surviving. Think fat stores. So, the theory (which is pretty widely accepted) is the polynesians who were able to survive long canoe rides were larger to begin with. The Alii (ruling class) were actually quite rotund. It was a sign of wealth and privelege. They would actually have servants knead their stomachs to enable them to eat more so they could get bigger.

In my opinion the polynesians who eat right, surf, dive, work out, are an extremely physically beautiful people. The mixture of asian ethnicities with the polynesians has not hurt looks either.

Ahhhh, Hawaii. I went to college there and lived there for 13 years. I do miss it (but not the food).

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I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?[/quote]

You are referring to the Waianae Diet. An attempt to address the obesity and it’s related problems within the Hawaiian community. The problem when you refer to their digestive systems not evolving is whose has? Have you seen what these people eat??? Loco moco, mayonaise on chili, gravy, spam, potatoe salad….

They actually theorize that as for polynesian races inhabiting the furthermost islands (Hawaii), the larger individuals were the only ones capable of surviving. Think fat stores. So, the theory (which is pretty widely accepted) is the polynesians who were able to survive long canoe rides were larger to begin with. The Alii (ruling class) were actually quite rotund. It was a sign of wealth and privelege. They would actually have servants knead their stomachs to enable them to eat more so they could get bigger.

In my opinion the polynesians who eat right, surf, dive, work out, are an extremely physically beautiful people. The mixture of asian ethnicities with the polynesians has not hurt looks either.

Ahhhh, Hawaii. I went to college there and lived there for 13 years. I do miss it (but not the food).

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If one has no choice but to do manual labor all day, it’s hard to gain weight no matter what metabolism they have. That’s why the Mexican Pima don’t gain weight — they (literally) work their asses off. If one lives a typical “American” lifestyle where they are not compelled to burn thousands of calories a day, then genetics is the primary influence of weight. That’s why the American Pima have more issues than other Americans in general — all of the Pima are genetically disposed toward obesity.

You didn’t read all of the report. The diet is at least as much of a factor as the level of physical activity. In the US the Pima are eating highly processed, refined grains and sugars, lots of animal fat, etc…. In Mexico they are eating the same natural diet that they have eaten for many thousands of years. Unrefined grains, lean meats, and vegetables. And of course, their level of activity is consistent with their caloric intake.

Certainly they are genetically predisposed towards obesity when fed an unnatural diet of processed grains, refined sugars, and large amounts of fats with few fresh vegetables or fruits. So are the rest of us.

I don’t expect anything to change though because the food lobby is very powerful in the US. They make a lot of money poisoning the population. And of course the health care industry makes lots of money treating our ailments. Capitalism at work!

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If one has no choice but to do manual labor all day, it’s hard to gain weight no matter what metabolism they have. That’s why the Mexican Pima don’t gain weight — they (literally) work their asses off. If one lives a typical “American” lifestyle where they are not compelled to burn thousands of calories a day, then genetics is the primary influence of weight. That’s why the American Pima have more issues than other Americans in general — all of the Pima are genetically disposed toward obesity.

You didn’t read all of the report. The diet is at least as much of a factor as the level of physical activity. In the US the Pima are eating highly processed, refined grains and sugars, lots of animal fat, etc…. In Mexico they are eating the same natural diet that they have eaten for many thousands of years. Unrefined grains, lean meats, and vegetables. And of course, their level of activity is consistent with their caloric intake.

Certainly they are genetically predisposed towards obesity when fed an unnatural diet of processed grains, refined sugars, and large amounts of fats with few fresh vegetables or fruits. So are the rest of us.

I don’t expect anything to change though because the food lobby is very powerful in the US. They make a lot of money poisoning the population. And of course the health care industry makes lots of money treating our ailments. Capitalism at work!

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If one has no choice but to do manual labor all day, it’s hard to gain weight no matter what metabolism they have. That’s why the Mexican Pima don’t gain weight — they (literally) work their asses off. If one lives a typical “American” lifestyle where they are not compelled to burn thousands of calories a day, then genetics is the primary influence of weight. That’s why the American Pima have more issues than other Americans in general — all of the Pima are genetically disposed toward obesity.

You didn’t read all of the report. The diet is at least as much of a factor as the level of physical activity. In the US the Pima are eating highly processed, refined grains and sugars, lots of animal fat, etc…. In Mexico they are eating the same natural diet that they have eaten for many thousands of years. Unrefined grains, lean meats, and vegetables. And of course, their level of activity is consistent with their caloric intake.

Certainly they are genetically predisposed towards obesity when fed an unnatural diet of processed grains, refined sugars, and large amounts of fats with few fresh vegetables or fruits. So are the rest of us.

I don’t expect anything to change though because the food lobby is very powerful in the US. They make a lot of money poisoning the population. And of course the health care industry makes lots of money treating our ailments. Capitalism at work!

[blahblahblah]

If one has no choice but to do manual labor all day, it’s hard to gain weight no matter what metabolism they have. That’s why the Mexican Pima don’t gain weight — they (literally) work their asses off. If one lives a typical “American” lifestyle where they are not compelled to burn thousands of calories a day, then genetics is the primary influence of weight. That’s why the American Pima have more issues than other Americans in general — all of the Pima are genetically disposed toward obesity.

You didn’t read all of the report. The diet is at least as much of a factor as the level of physical activity. In the US the Pima are eating highly processed, refined grains and sugars, lots of animal fat, etc…. In Mexico they are eating the same natural diet that they have eaten for many thousands of years. Unrefined grains, lean meats, and vegetables. And of course, their level of activity is consistent with their caloric intake.

Certainly they are genetically predisposed towards obesity when fed an unnatural diet of processed grains, refined sugars, and large amounts of fats with few fresh vegetables or fruits. So are the rest of us.

I don’t expect anything to change though because the food lobby is very powerful in the US. They make a lot of money poisoning the population. And of course the health care industry makes lots of money treating our ailments. Capitalism at work!

[blahblahblah]

If one has no choice but to do manual labor all day, it’s hard to gain weight no matter what metabolism they have. That’s why the Mexican Pima don’t gain weight — they (literally) work their asses off. If one lives a typical “American” lifestyle where they are not compelled to burn thousands of calories a day, then genetics is the primary influence of weight. That’s why the American Pima have more issues than other Americans in general — all of the Pima are genetically disposed toward obesity.

You didn’t read all of the report. The diet is at least as much of a factor as the level of physical activity. In the US the Pima are eating highly processed, refined grains and sugars, lots of animal fat, etc…. In Mexico they are eating the same natural diet that they have eaten for many thousands of years. Unrefined grains, lean meats, and vegetables. And of course, their level of activity is consistent with their caloric intake.

Certainly they are genetically predisposed towards obesity when fed an unnatural diet of processed grains, refined sugars, and large amounts of fats with few fresh vegetables or fruits. So are the rest of us.

I don’t expect anything to change though because the food lobby is very powerful in the US. They make a lot of money poisoning the population. And of course the health care industry makes lots of money treating our ailments. Capitalism at work!

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Concho makes a good point. It would be interesting to know the full role that modern “refinements” such as high fructose corn syrup play in the rise of obesity and diabetes over the past 50 years. I wonder if we consumed the same quantity but different quality of junk, things would be different. It seems as if everything we eat nowadays is corn — even the meat we eat was fed with corn. We produce a lot of corn in this country, and it all has to end up somewhere — mostly on our hips and asses. All that corn can’t be good for our systems.

What’s better, a glass full of natural sugar-kool aid, or a glass full of HFCS Coke?

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Concho makes a good point. It would be interesting to know the full role that modern “refinements” such as high fructose corn syrup play in the rise of obesity and diabetes over the past 50 years. I wonder if we consumed the same quantity but different quality of junk, things would be different. It seems as if everything we eat nowadays is corn — even the meat we eat was fed with corn. We produce a lot of corn in this country, and it all has to end up somewhere — mostly on our hips and asses. All that corn can’t be good for our systems.

What’s better, a glass full of natural sugar-kool aid, or a glass full of HFCS Coke?

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Concho makes a good point. It would be interesting to know the full role that modern “refinements” such as high fructose corn syrup play in the rise of obesity and diabetes over the past 50 years. I wonder if we consumed the same quantity but different quality of junk, things would be different. It seems as if everything we eat nowadays is corn — even the meat we eat was fed with corn. We produce a lot of corn in this country, and it all has to end up somewhere — mostly on our hips and asses. All that corn can’t be good for our systems.

What’s better, a glass full of natural sugar-kool aid, or a glass full of HFCS Coke?

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Concho makes a good point. It would be interesting to know the full role that modern “refinements” such as high fructose corn syrup play in the rise of obesity and diabetes over the past 50 years. I wonder if we consumed the same quantity but different quality of junk, things would be different. It seems as if everything we eat nowadays is corn — even the meat we eat was fed with corn. We produce a lot of corn in this country, and it all has to end up somewhere — mostly on our hips and asses. All that corn can’t be good for our systems.

What’s better, a glass full of natural sugar-kool aid, or a glass full of HFCS Coke?

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