- This topic has 90 replies, 13 voices, and was last updated 15 years, 3 months ago by
Bunny Meadows.
-
AuthorPosts
-
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:34 AM #11390
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM #128333
Arty
ParticipantDrove by on my way to work. I will believe it when Ron Paul is one of the top three in Iowa tomorrow.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM #128498
Arty
ParticipantDrove by on my way to work. I will believe it when Ron Paul is one of the top three in Iowa tomorrow.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM #128508
Arty
ParticipantDrove by on my way to work. I will believe it when Ron Paul is one of the top three in Iowa tomorrow.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM #128575
Arty
ParticipantDrove by on my way to work. I will believe it when Ron Paul is one of the top three in Iowa tomorrow.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM #128604
Arty
ParticipantDrove by on my way to work. I will believe it when Ron Paul is one of the top three in Iowa tomorrow.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:48 AM #128341
temeculaguy
ParticipantSandi, were you in that video? I stay off the political threads because I don’t believe it matters who the president is. Your state, county and city officials have far more impact on your actual life but everyone gets all hot and bothered about the national election. I do like your enthusiasm, I’ll go to his website and if I like his stuff, you win, I’ll vote for him since nobody else has me very excited at this point. As a rule I generally try and trade my vote for sex or money but what the hell I’ll give it away for free, I voted for Perot once, how bad can this be. All a politician has to really do to get my vote is to run on a traffic free platform. I wan’t a politician to tell me he will pave everything he sees, if there is even five minutes of traffic, people will be fired, habitats destroyed, homes demolished and freeways built. Nobody gets free money, nobody gets medical care, nobody gets an education until the workers footing the bill for this gravy train can get anywhere and everywhere, traffic free. Have all the abortions and guns you want, leave me out of it and let me get where I’m going, I’m that easy.
-
January 3, 2008 at 4:27 AM #128352
Ex-SD
Participanttemeculaguy: I’m with you.
I used to naively believe that who the person in the oval office was would make more of a difference than it really does but in reality, it ain’t so. In the end, the overwhelming majority of politicians are crooks and will take a bribe to enrich themselves and say anything to keep getting elected so they can keep taking more bribes. For each one that they catch, a thousand more get away with it. And when they get caught, (since most are lawyers) they find loopholes to slip out of a conviction.One of the most recent, glaring cases was William J. Jefferson of Louisiana who was caught with $90k in cash that he took as a bribe and that he was hiding in his freezer. (earlier, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100k in $100 bills in a leather briefcase) Despite this evidence (and much more), legal maneuvering has kept him out of prison and he ran for re-election and won. Presently, he has finally been indicted by a grand jury and but is still serving in Congress. In the end, he will probably get off with a slap on the hand………..and we’ll never know how many times and how much money he took as bribes over his political career.
And on a local level………….who could ever forget, “Greedy” Duke Cunningham?
And so, the political beauty pageant goes on and the general public gets poorer by the actions of these fools on Capitol Hill.
-
January 3, 2008 at 6:50 AM #128357
TheBreeze
ParticipantHmmmm … I have to disagree. I think who the President is can have a major influence on society.
I voted for Bush in 2000 just because he was a Republican even though I had a strong suspicion that he was a dumbass. Turns out, not only was he a dumbass, he is also probably the most corrupt Presidents since Nixon. If Gore had won in 2000, I seriously doubt we would be in Iraq now. Plus, I believe that Bush’s “Ownership Society” policies played a major role in this housing bubble. If I could go back in time, I’d definitely vote for Gore in 2000 (as would a large majority of Americans I suspect).
Looking back, some of the best times for the United States in recent years have been the Clinton years. I believe that was not only due to Clinton being a smart guy, but also because Republicans controlled Congress and were able to shut down some of Clinton’s more radical ideas, such as universal health care. I’d like to see us get back to a split government, with Obama in the White House and Republicans in charge of Congress. Unfortunately, I think Bush has screwed things up so badly that Democrats will win both the White House and Congress.
-
January 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM #128451
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantI’m a long-life Democrat and am beginning to agree with Temecula Guy. I know that writing local officials and politicans has much more of an impact.
Call me jaded, but I think the president staffs the government with friends and cronies (sheeeshhh…we all remember “Brownie” after Katrina, right?) Plum diplomatic posts are awarded to $upporter$, etc. Then, backrooms deals are cut that support the President’s $upporter$ and agenda.
I’m not wild about ANY of the dem candidates. As a woman, I really want to like Hillary. I loved Bill (much to my husband’s dismay). But, I dont think she can really win.
If you look at their websites, with their issue positions, it’s almost laughable. John Edwards wants to “end poverty in a generation” along with other grandiose (and unrealistic) goals. Yeah, right. They all blow a lot of smoke at us…and nothing ever really changes.
The one candiate that scares the CRAP out of me is Huckabee…I’m tired of mixing religion and politics, and dont really want to see a Baptist minister in the Oval Office. Especially one with a son that tortures animals for fun (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)
Sorry for the rant. I’d better go eat something. I’m hypoglycemic and cranky…
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM #128776
Jumby
ParticipantI think it’s ridiculous to say that it doesn’t matter who the president is because it doesn’t impact in their life.
“It’s all related!”
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM #128817
Anonymous
GuestI think it matters moreso the party than the person. I’d like to see Obama get in actually. Obama as president and Hillary as vice-president would be pretty awesome. I think it would also work well in reverse.
-
January 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM #128867
temeculaguy
ParticipantJumby, you win with the “it’s all related” line, I will now go stand in my place that you put me in.
You know that every president we have ever elected has been a white male christian with the exception of a single catholic and it took almost 200 years to get that one. I fear along with Bunny that Huckabee vs. Edwards will be your choice come November. It was shaping up nicely, quite the mix, a woman, an african american with a muslim name, a mormon, an actor, lots of variety and it looked like something different this way comes. But what we east and west coast folks tend to forget is the middle of the country. Personally I opt to avoid anything between Arizona and New York and I’m a lifelong registered Republican. But even California Republicans don’t really feel a part of their party, most of us are just too lazy to change parties because the other side has nothing better to offer. In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs. Don’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM #128957
paramount
ParticipantDid anyone catch an article in the Press-Enterprise that suggested there might be some corruption within the Temecula City Council?
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_H_temecula02.324c067.html
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM #129122
paramount
ParticipantDid anyone catch an article in the Press-Enterprise that suggested there might be some corruption within the Temecula City Council?
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_H_temecula02.324c067.html
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM #129133
paramount
ParticipantDid anyone catch an article in the Press-Enterprise that suggested there might be some corruption within the Temecula City Council?
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_H_temecula02.324c067.html
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM #129200
paramount
ParticipantDid anyone catch an article in the Press-Enterprise that suggested there might be some corruption within the Temecula City Council?
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_H_temecula02.324c067.html
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM #129229
paramount
ParticipantDid anyone catch an article in the Press-Enterprise that suggested there might be some corruption within the Temecula City Council?
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_H_temecula02.324c067.html
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM #128962
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG, Hey I know plenty of locals that buy UFC fights. Hell Ken Shamrock was based here in SD.
Me being from the middle I have an excuse, but these locals must be a little unstable (relative to you wine drinkers). However I have never been a big Nascar guy despite being dragged up to Michigan International Speedway twice a year (for about 3 years just prior to puberty). He stopped taking me due to an “incident”. I got bored during the race, and searched the parking lot for a family friends Van. After the race I said Dad let’s go see him!! I knocked, and our friend slid open the door, butt-naked with some “other woman” who was also nekkid. I think I was 12 or 13. My old man was humiliated that we saw this “in action” and begged me not to tell their kids or anyone else.
You just can’t makeup crap like this…. As an aside it sure seemed like those Nascar fans had some money.
Cheers eh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM #128986
Arraya
ParticipantI’ve been a dem my whole life then finally realized Ralph Nader was right, there is no difference between the two parties.
All that is missing is sponsered by patches on their suits. They don’t care about you, don’t full yourself.
Just like this housing clusterfuck. Every level of authority was pushing people into houses until it was so obvious that the bubble popped and they could not hide it anymore. Like leading pigs to the slaughter. I do not believe the gov’t, media and financial institutions are that stupid.
Just like peak oil. Keep telling everybody there is nothing to worry about when you and the gov’t should be preparing. I’m sure the MSM will report on it after it is obvious. They are good at getting things after the fact. Like all the bullshit reasons to go to war.
Or like global warming. Like new lightbulbs or hybrid cars will make a whit of difference. GHG are still rising,nothing has been done.
The US invariably will pick the worst president again…
Welcome to a world of fuel, water and food shortages with extreme wheather. Yes we in the 1st world don’t feel it yet but its creeping our way. You just are not paying attention.
With all the civil unrest in the near future it is quite a coincedence that they passed all these handy civil rights erroding laws in which the president can declare martial law and detain you without a lawyer in case of an “emergency”, which can be defined by the president. All of which Hillary voted for along with the war. In the mean time Halliburten was contracted to build a half billion dollar detention center to deal with all the unruley citizens.
The upper .01 is building fortresses to prepare for the impending storm, you should all take notice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/guns-beat-green-the-mark_b_74869.html
“The market, however, appears to have other ideas about how to meet the challenges of an increasingly disaster-prone world. According to Lloyd, despite all the government incentives, the really big money is turning away from clean energy technologies and banking instead on gadgets promising to seal wealthy countries and individuals into high-tech fortresses. Key growth areas in venture capitalism are private security firms selling surveillance gear and privatized emergency response. Put simply, in the world of venture capitalism, there has been a race going on between greens on the one hand and guns and garrisons on the other–and the guns are winning”
Keep dreaming eveybody because soon you are going to have to wake up to reality.
He gets it…
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM #129152
Arraya
ParticipantI’ve been a dem my whole life then finally realized Ralph Nader was right, there is no difference between the two parties.
All that is missing is sponsered by patches on their suits. They don’t care about you, don’t full yourself.
Just like this housing clusterfuck. Every level of authority was pushing people into houses until it was so obvious that the bubble popped and they could not hide it anymore. Like leading pigs to the slaughter. I do not believe the gov’t, media and financial institutions are that stupid.
Just like peak oil. Keep telling everybody there is nothing to worry about when you and the gov’t should be preparing. I’m sure the MSM will report on it after it is obvious. They are good at getting things after the fact. Like all the bullshit reasons to go to war.
Or like global warming. Like new lightbulbs or hybrid cars will make a whit of difference. GHG are still rising,nothing has been done.
The US invariably will pick the worst president again…
Welcome to a world of fuel, water and food shortages with extreme wheather. Yes we in the 1st world don’t feel it yet but its creeping our way. You just are not paying attention.
With all the civil unrest in the near future it is quite a coincedence that they passed all these handy civil rights erroding laws in which the president can declare martial law and detain you without a lawyer in case of an “emergency”, which can be defined by the president. All of which Hillary voted for along with the war. In the mean time Halliburten was contracted to build a half billion dollar detention center to deal with all the unruley citizens.
The upper .01 is building fortresses to prepare for the impending storm, you should all take notice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/guns-beat-green-the-mark_b_74869.html
“The market, however, appears to have other ideas about how to meet the challenges of an increasingly disaster-prone world. According to Lloyd, despite all the government incentives, the really big money is turning away from clean energy technologies and banking instead on gadgets promising to seal wealthy countries and individuals into high-tech fortresses. Key growth areas in venture capitalism are private security firms selling surveillance gear and privatized emergency response. Put simply, in the world of venture capitalism, there has been a race going on between greens on the one hand and guns and garrisons on the other–and the guns are winning”
Keep dreaming eveybody because soon you are going to have to wake up to reality.
He gets it…
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM #129163
Arraya
ParticipantI’ve been a dem my whole life then finally realized Ralph Nader was right, there is no difference between the two parties.
All that is missing is sponsered by patches on their suits. They don’t care about you, don’t full yourself.
Just like this housing clusterfuck. Every level of authority was pushing people into houses until it was so obvious that the bubble popped and they could not hide it anymore. Like leading pigs to the slaughter. I do not believe the gov’t, media and financial institutions are that stupid.
Just like peak oil. Keep telling everybody there is nothing to worry about when you and the gov’t should be preparing. I’m sure the MSM will report on it after it is obvious. They are good at getting things after the fact. Like all the bullshit reasons to go to war.
Or like global warming. Like new lightbulbs or hybrid cars will make a whit of difference. GHG are still rising,nothing has been done.
The US invariably will pick the worst president again…
Welcome to a world of fuel, water and food shortages with extreme wheather. Yes we in the 1st world don’t feel it yet but its creeping our way. You just are not paying attention.
With all the civil unrest in the near future it is quite a coincedence that they passed all these handy civil rights erroding laws in which the president can declare martial law and detain you without a lawyer in case of an “emergency”, which can be defined by the president. All of which Hillary voted for along with the war. In the mean time Halliburten was contracted to build a half billion dollar detention center to deal with all the unruley citizens.
The upper .01 is building fortresses to prepare for the impending storm, you should all take notice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/guns-beat-green-the-mark_b_74869.html
“The market, however, appears to have other ideas about how to meet the challenges of an increasingly disaster-prone world. According to Lloyd, despite all the government incentives, the really big money is turning away from clean energy technologies and banking instead on gadgets promising to seal wealthy countries and individuals into high-tech fortresses. Key growth areas in venture capitalism are private security firms selling surveillance gear and privatized emergency response. Put simply, in the world of venture capitalism, there has been a race going on between greens on the one hand and guns and garrisons on the other–and the guns are winning”
Keep dreaming eveybody because soon you are going to have to wake up to reality.
He gets it…
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM #129230
Arraya
ParticipantI’ve been a dem my whole life then finally realized Ralph Nader was right, there is no difference between the two parties.
All that is missing is sponsered by patches on their suits. They don’t care about you, don’t full yourself.
Just like this housing clusterfuck. Every level of authority was pushing people into houses until it was so obvious that the bubble popped and they could not hide it anymore. Like leading pigs to the slaughter. I do not believe the gov’t, media and financial institutions are that stupid.
Just like peak oil. Keep telling everybody there is nothing to worry about when you and the gov’t should be preparing. I’m sure the MSM will report on it after it is obvious. They are good at getting things after the fact. Like all the bullshit reasons to go to war.
Or like global warming. Like new lightbulbs or hybrid cars will make a whit of difference. GHG are still rising,nothing has been done.
The US invariably will pick the worst president again…
Welcome to a world of fuel, water and food shortages with extreme wheather. Yes we in the 1st world don’t feel it yet but its creeping our way. You just are not paying attention.
With all the civil unrest in the near future it is quite a coincedence that they passed all these handy civil rights erroding laws in which the president can declare martial law and detain you without a lawyer in case of an “emergency”, which can be defined by the president. All of which Hillary voted for along with the war. In the mean time Halliburten was contracted to build a half billion dollar detention center to deal with all the unruley citizens.
The upper .01 is building fortresses to prepare for the impending storm, you should all take notice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/guns-beat-green-the-mark_b_74869.html
“The market, however, appears to have other ideas about how to meet the challenges of an increasingly disaster-prone world. According to Lloyd, despite all the government incentives, the really big money is turning away from clean energy technologies and banking instead on gadgets promising to seal wealthy countries and individuals into high-tech fortresses. Key growth areas in venture capitalism are private security firms selling surveillance gear and privatized emergency response. Put simply, in the world of venture capitalism, there has been a race going on between greens on the one hand and guns and garrisons on the other–and the guns are winning”
Keep dreaming eveybody because soon you are going to have to wake up to reality.
He gets it…
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM #129259
Arraya
ParticipantI’ve been a dem my whole life then finally realized Ralph Nader was right, there is no difference between the two parties.
All that is missing is sponsered by patches on their suits. They don’t care about you, don’t full yourself.
Just like this housing clusterfuck. Every level of authority was pushing people into houses until it was so obvious that the bubble popped and they could not hide it anymore. Like leading pigs to the slaughter. I do not believe the gov’t, media and financial institutions are that stupid.
Just like peak oil. Keep telling everybody there is nothing to worry about when you and the gov’t should be preparing. I’m sure the MSM will report on it after it is obvious. They are good at getting things after the fact. Like all the bullshit reasons to go to war.
Or like global warming. Like new lightbulbs or hybrid cars will make a whit of difference. GHG are still rising,nothing has been done.
The US invariably will pick the worst president again…
Welcome to a world of fuel, water and food shortages with extreme wheather. Yes we in the 1st world don’t feel it yet but its creeping our way. You just are not paying attention.
With all the civil unrest in the near future it is quite a coincedence that they passed all these handy civil rights erroding laws in which the president can declare martial law and detain you without a lawyer in case of an “emergency”, which can be defined by the president. All of which Hillary voted for along with the war. In the mean time Halliburten was contracted to build a half billion dollar detention center to deal with all the unruley citizens.
The upper .01 is building fortresses to prepare for the impending storm, you should all take notice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/guns-beat-green-the-mark_b_74869.html
“The market, however, appears to have other ideas about how to meet the challenges of an increasingly disaster-prone world. According to Lloyd, despite all the government incentives, the really big money is turning away from clean energy technologies and banking instead on gadgets promising to seal wealthy countries and individuals into high-tech fortresses. Key growth areas in venture capitalism are private security firms selling surveillance gear and privatized emergency response. Put simply, in the world of venture capitalism, there has been a race going on between greens on the one hand and guns and garrisons on the other–and the guns are winning”
Keep dreaming eveybody because soon you are going to have to wake up to reality.
He gets it…
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM #129126
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG, Hey I know plenty of locals that buy UFC fights. Hell Ken Shamrock was based here in SD.
Me being from the middle I have an excuse, but these locals must be a little unstable (relative to you wine drinkers). However I have never been a big Nascar guy despite being dragged up to Michigan International Speedway twice a year (for about 3 years just prior to puberty). He stopped taking me due to an “incident”. I got bored during the race, and searched the parking lot for a family friends Van. After the race I said Dad let’s go see him!! I knocked, and our friend slid open the door, butt-naked with some “other woman” who was also nekkid. I think I was 12 or 13. My old man was humiliated that we saw this “in action” and begged me not to tell their kids or anyone else.
You just can’t makeup crap like this…. As an aside it sure seemed like those Nascar fans had some money.
Cheers eh!
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM #129138
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG, Hey I know plenty of locals that buy UFC fights. Hell Ken Shamrock was based here in SD.
Me being from the middle I have an excuse, but these locals must be a little unstable (relative to you wine drinkers). However I have never been a big Nascar guy despite being dragged up to Michigan International Speedway twice a year (for about 3 years just prior to puberty). He stopped taking me due to an “incident”. I got bored during the race, and searched the parking lot for a family friends Van. After the race I said Dad let’s go see him!! I knocked, and our friend slid open the door, butt-naked with some “other woman” who was also nekkid. I think I was 12 or 13. My old man was humiliated that we saw this “in action” and begged me not to tell their kids or anyone else.
You just can’t makeup crap like this…. As an aside it sure seemed like those Nascar fans had some money.
Cheers eh!
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM #129205
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG, Hey I know plenty of locals that buy UFC fights. Hell Ken Shamrock was based here in SD.
Me being from the middle I have an excuse, but these locals must be a little unstable (relative to you wine drinkers). However I have never been a big Nascar guy despite being dragged up to Michigan International Speedway twice a year (for about 3 years just prior to puberty). He stopped taking me due to an “incident”. I got bored during the race, and searched the parking lot for a family friends Van. After the race I said Dad let’s go see him!! I knocked, and our friend slid open the door, butt-naked with some “other woman” who was also nekkid. I think I was 12 or 13. My old man was humiliated that we saw this “in action” and begged me not to tell their kids or anyone else.
You just can’t makeup crap like this…. As an aside it sure seemed like those Nascar fans had some money.
Cheers eh!
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM #129234
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG, Hey I know plenty of locals that buy UFC fights. Hell Ken Shamrock was based here in SD.
Me being from the middle I have an excuse, but these locals must be a little unstable (relative to you wine drinkers). However I have never been a big Nascar guy despite being dragged up to Michigan International Speedway twice a year (for about 3 years just prior to puberty). He stopped taking me due to an “incident”. I got bored during the race, and searched the parking lot for a family friends Van. After the race I said Dad let’s go see him!! I knocked, and our friend slid open the door, butt-naked with some “other woman” who was also nekkid. I think I was 12 or 13. My old man was humiliated that we saw this “in action” and begged me not to tell their kids or anyone else.
You just can’t makeup crap like this…. As an aside it sure seemed like those Nascar fans had some money.
Cheers eh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:16 AM #128967
Anonymous
GuestSubmitted by temeculaguy on January 3, 2008 – 10:43pm.
In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs.
Hey, TG. I really liked Bill Clinton as president. Despite his faults, he was a good president and a good man.
🙂
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:16 AM #129131
Anonymous
GuestSubmitted by temeculaguy on January 3, 2008 – 10:43pm.
In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs.
Hey, TG. I really liked Bill Clinton as president. Despite his faults, he was a good president and a good man.
🙂
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:16 AM #129143
Anonymous
GuestSubmitted by temeculaguy on January 3, 2008 – 10:43pm.
In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs.
Hey, TG. I really liked Bill Clinton as president. Despite his faults, he was a good president and a good man.
🙂
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:16 AM #129210
Anonymous
GuestSubmitted by temeculaguy on January 3, 2008 – 10:43pm.
In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs.
Hey, TG. I really liked Bill Clinton as president. Despite his faults, he was a good president and a good man.
🙂
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:16 AM #129239
Anonymous
GuestSubmitted by temeculaguy on January 3, 2008 – 10:43pm.
In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs.
Hey, TG. I really liked Bill Clinton as president. Despite his faults, he was a good president and a good man.
🙂
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:31 AM #128977
TheBreeze
ParticipantDon’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
LOL! Dude, you are way out of touch. At least one of the big UFC stars (Dan Henderson) lives in your back yard. There are tons of other UFC fighters from California. I would imagine that UFC is just as big (if not bigger) in California as it is anywhere else.
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:19 AM #128996
temeculaguy
ParticipantObviously I am out of touch, it must be the friends I keep. Thanks to Cardiff, vans in Nascar parking lots in Michigan are now on my “to do” list. Speaking of stranger than fiction and UFC, a while back I was quenching my thirst and dancing with the ladies when I met a particularly enchanting mynx who I managed to kiss and obtain her phone number for later use. During that phone call she complained about her ex-boyfriend that she had a child with and how she had to get a restrainig order against him but the order didn’t apply to any of her suitors and he had a habit of beating them up and his chosen profession was a UFC fighter. He also had a habit of obtaining the phone numbers of boys from her cell phone during child custody visits, and that boy and girls, is why I no longer go to that bar, how my two tattoo limit came to be and why I have a new cell phone number. So, Yes, I am quite aware of the presence of UFC fighters living in my midst.
Apparently my comments struck a sensitive spot, my apologies, enjoy whatever sport you like. My comments were entirely satirical but also based on the political leanings of the masses. I’ll be willing to bet that if you polled the country, people could identify more American Idol winners than presidential candidates. I’ll also bet that the number of votes that will be cast in the November election will come nowhere near American Idol or Dancing with the Stars votes, and for good reason, Hillary is no Julianne.
-
January 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM #129056
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantHere’s a thought: why dont we simply appoint a think tank of extremely smart people to pick a president? It’s clear that the democratic process in this country doesnt mean much anymore.
Then those who aspire to be pres. candidates could raise $$$ and direct the hundreds of millions of $$$ to providing a college education for every child, and truly eradicating poverty – which is something that John Edwards wans to do in a generation, btw.
OK. I’m kidding. But, seriously. It’s often depressing to watch this entire process unfold. All of the rhetoric which is often disappointingly empty. The candidates lay out their “issues”, debate, etc. and once they get to office it really boils down to who is driving the bus in Congress, right?
It seems like people are more concerned about a candidate’s stance on gay marriage or abortion – or which God they worship…all issues that – LET’S FACE IT – dont matter much to us on an individual level.
We should be worried about where this country is headed, the melting polar caps, violence abroad/terrorists, oil crisis and myriad other things.
Ugh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM #129223
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantHere’s a thought: why dont we simply appoint a think tank of extremely smart people to pick a president? It’s clear that the democratic process in this country doesnt mean much anymore.
Then those who aspire to be pres. candidates could raise $$$ and direct the hundreds of millions of $$$ to providing a college education for every child, and truly eradicating poverty – which is something that John Edwards wans to do in a generation, btw.
OK. I’m kidding. But, seriously. It’s often depressing to watch this entire process unfold. All of the rhetoric which is often disappointingly empty. The candidates lay out their “issues”, debate, etc. and once they get to office it really boils down to who is driving the bus in Congress, right?
It seems like people are more concerned about a candidate’s stance on gay marriage or abortion – or which God they worship…all issues that – LET’S FACE IT – dont matter much to us on an individual level.
We should be worried about where this country is headed, the melting polar caps, violence abroad/terrorists, oil crisis and myriad other things.
Ugh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM #129232
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantHere’s a thought: why dont we simply appoint a think tank of extremely smart people to pick a president? It’s clear that the democratic process in this country doesnt mean much anymore.
Then those who aspire to be pres. candidates could raise $$$ and direct the hundreds of millions of $$$ to providing a college education for every child, and truly eradicating poverty – which is something that John Edwards wans to do in a generation, btw.
OK. I’m kidding. But, seriously. It’s often depressing to watch this entire process unfold. All of the rhetoric which is often disappointingly empty. The candidates lay out their “issues”, debate, etc. and once they get to office it really boils down to who is driving the bus in Congress, right?
It seems like people are more concerned about a candidate’s stance on gay marriage or abortion – or which God they worship…all issues that – LET’S FACE IT – dont matter much to us on an individual level.
We should be worried about where this country is headed, the melting polar caps, violence abroad/terrorists, oil crisis and myriad other things.
Ugh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM #129299
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantHere’s a thought: why dont we simply appoint a think tank of extremely smart people to pick a president? It’s clear that the democratic process in this country doesnt mean much anymore.
Then those who aspire to be pres. candidates could raise $$$ and direct the hundreds of millions of $$$ to providing a college education for every child, and truly eradicating poverty – which is something that John Edwards wans to do in a generation, btw.
OK. I’m kidding. But, seriously. It’s often depressing to watch this entire process unfold. All of the rhetoric which is often disappointingly empty. The candidates lay out their “issues”, debate, etc. and once they get to office it really boils down to who is driving the bus in Congress, right?
It seems like people are more concerned about a candidate’s stance on gay marriage or abortion – or which God they worship…all issues that – LET’S FACE IT – dont matter much to us on an individual level.
We should be worried about where this country is headed, the melting polar caps, violence abroad/terrorists, oil crisis and myriad other things.
Ugh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM #129328
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantHere’s a thought: why dont we simply appoint a think tank of extremely smart people to pick a president? It’s clear that the democratic process in this country doesnt mean much anymore.
Then those who aspire to be pres. candidates could raise $$$ and direct the hundreds of millions of $$$ to providing a college education for every child, and truly eradicating poverty – which is something that John Edwards wans to do in a generation, btw.
OK. I’m kidding. But, seriously. It’s often depressing to watch this entire process unfold. All of the rhetoric which is often disappointingly empty. The candidates lay out their “issues”, debate, etc. and once they get to office it really boils down to who is driving the bus in Congress, right?
It seems like people are more concerned about a candidate’s stance on gay marriage or abortion – or which God they worship…all issues that – LET’S FACE IT – dont matter much to us on an individual level.
We should be worried about where this country is headed, the melting polar caps, violence abroad/terrorists, oil crisis and myriad other things.
Ugh!
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:19 AM #129162
temeculaguy
ParticipantObviously I am out of touch, it must be the friends I keep. Thanks to Cardiff, vans in Nascar parking lots in Michigan are now on my “to do” list. Speaking of stranger than fiction and UFC, a while back I was quenching my thirst and dancing with the ladies when I met a particularly enchanting mynx who I managed to kiss and obtain her phone number for later use. During that phone call she complained about her ex-boyfriend that she had a child with and how she had to get a restrainig order against him but the order didn’t apply to any of her suitors and he had a habit of beating them up and his chosen profession was a UFC fighter. He also had a habit of obtaining the phone numbers of boys from her cell phone during child custody visits, and that boy and girls, is why I no longer go to that bar, how my two tattoo limit came to be and why I have a new cell phone number. So, Yes, I am quite aware of the presence of UFC fighters living in my midst.
Apparently my comments struck a sensitive spot, my apologies, enjoy whatever sport you like. My comments were entirely satirical but also based on the political leanings of the masses. I’ll be willing to bet that if you polled the country, people could identify more American Idol winners than presidential candidates. I’ll also bet that the number of votes that will be cast in the November election will come nowhere near American Idol or Dancing with the Stars votes, and for good reason, Hillary is no Julianne.
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:19 AM #129173
temeculaguy
ParticipantObviously I am out of touch, it must be the friends I keep. Thanks to Cardiff, vans in Nascar parking lots in Michigan are now on my “to do” list. Speaking of stranger than fiction and UFC, a while back I was quenching my thirst and dancing with the ladies when I met a particularly enchanting mynx who I managed to kiss and obtain her phone number for later use. During that phone call she complained about her ex-boyfriend that she had a child with and how she had to get a restrainig order against him but the order didn’t apply to any of her suitors and he had a habit of beating them up and his chosen profession was a UFC fighter. He also had a habit of obtaining the phone numbers of boys from her cell phone during child custody visits, and that boy and girls, is why I no longer go to that bar, how my two tattoo limit came to be and why I have a new cell phone number. So, Yes, I am quite aware of the presence of UFC fighters living in my midst.
Apparently my comments struck a sensitive spot, my apologies, enjoy whatever sport you like. My comments were entirely satirical but also based on the political leanings of the masses. I’ll be willing to bet that if you polled the country, people could identify more American Idol winners than presidential candidates. I’ll also bet that the number of votes that will be cast in the November election will come nowhere near American Idol or Dancing with the Stars votes, and for good reason, Hillary is no Julianne.
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:19 AM #129240
temeculaguy
ParticipantObviously I am out of touch, it must be the friends I keep. Thanks to Cardiff, vans in Nascar parking lots in Michigan are now on my “to do” list. Speaking of stranger than fiction and UFC, a while back I was quenching my thirst and dancing with the ladies when I met a particularly enchanting mynx who I managed to kiss and obtain her phone number for later use. During that phone call she complained about her ex-boyfriend that she had a child with and how she had to get a restrainig order against him but the order didn’t apply to any of her suitors and he had a habit of beating them up and his chosen profession was a UFC fighter. He also had a habit of obtaining the phone numbers of boys from her cell phone during child custody visits, and that boy and girls, is why I no longer go to that bar, how my two tattoo limit came to be and why I have a new cell phone number. So, Yes, I am quite aware of the presence of UFC fighters living in my midst.
Apparently my comments struck a sensitive spot, my apologies, enjoy whatever sport you like. My comments were entirely satirical but also based on the political leanings of the masses. I’ll be willing to bet that if you polled the country, people could identify more American Idol winners than presidential candidates. I’ll also bet that the number of votes that will be cast in the November election will come nowhere near American Idol or Dancing with the Stars votes, and for good reason, Hillary is no Julianne.
-
January 4, 2008 at 1:19 AM #129268
temeculaguy
ParticipantObviously I am out of touch, it must be the friends I keep. Thanks to Cardiff, vans in Nascar parking lots in Michigan are now on my “to do” list. Speaking of stranger than fiction and UFC, a while back I was quenching my thirst and dancing with the ladies when I met a particularly enchanting mynx who I managed to kiss and obtain her phone number for later use. During that phone call she complained about her ex-boyfriend that she had a child with and how she had to get a restrainig order against him but the order didn’t apply to any of her suitors and he had a habit of beating them up and his chosen profession was a UFC fighter. He also had a habit of obtaining the phone numbers of boys from her cell phone during child custody visits, and that boy and girls, is why I no longer go to that bar, how my two tattoo limit came to be and why I have a new cell phone number. So, Yes, I am quite aware of the presence of UFC fighters living in my midst.
Apparently my comments struck a sensitive spot, my apologies, enjoy whatever sport you like. My comments were entirely satirical but also based on the political leanings of the masses. I’ll be willing to bet that if you polled the country, people could identify more American Idol winners than presidential candidates. I’ll also bet that the number of votes that will be cast in the November election will come nowhere near American Idol or Dancing with the Stars votes, and for good reason, Hillary is no Julianne.
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:31 AM #129142
TheBreeze
ParticipantDon’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
LOL! Dude, you are way out of touch. At least one of the big UFC stars (Dan Henderson) lives in your back yard. There are tons of other UFC fighters from California. I would imagine that UFC is just as big (if not bigger) in California as it is anywhere else.
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:31 AM #129153
TheBreeze
ParticipantDon’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
LOL! Dude, you are way out of touch. At least one of the big UFC stars (Dan Henderson) lives in your back yard. There are tons of other UFC fighters from California. I would imagine that UFC is just as big (if not bigger) in California as it is anywhere else.
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:31 AM #129220
TheBreeze
ParticipantDon’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
LOL! Dude, you are way out of touch. At least one of the big UFC stars (Dan Henderson) lives in your back yard. There are tons of other UFC fighters from California. I would imagine that UFC is just as big (if not bigger) in California as it is anywhere else.
-
January 4, 2008 at 12:31 AM #129249
TheBreeze
ParticipantDon’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
LOL! Dude, you are way out of touch. At least one of the big UFC stars (Dan Henderson) lives in your back yard. There are tons of other UFC fighters from California. I would imagine that UFC is just as big (if not bigger) in California as it is anywhere else.
-
January 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM #129033
temeculaguy
ParticipantJumby, you win with the “it’s all related” line, I will now go stand in my place that you put me in.
You know that every president we have ever elected has been a white male christian with the exception of a single catholic and it took almost 200 years to get that one. I fear along with Bunny that Huckabee vs. Edwards will be your choice come November. It was shaping up nicely, quite the mix, a woman, an african american with a muslim name, a mormon, an actor, lots of variety and it looked like something different this way comes. But what we east and west coast folks tend to forget is the middle of the country. Personally I opt to avoid anything between Arizona and New York and I’m a lifelong registered Republican. But even California Republicans don’t really feel a part of their party, most of us are just too lazy to change parties because the other side has nothing better to offer. In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs. Don’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
-
January 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM #129041
temeculaguy
ParticipantJumby, you win with the “it’s all related” line, I will now go stand in my place that you put me in.
You know that every president we have ever elected has been a white male christian with the exception of a single catholic and it took almost 200 years to get that one. I fear along with Bunny that Huckabee vs. Edwards will be your choice come November. It was shaping up nicely, quite the mix, a woman, an african american with a muslim name, a mormon, an actor, lots of variety and it looked like something different this way comes. But what we east and west coast folks tend to forget is the middle of the country. Personally I opt to avoid anything between Arizona and New York and I’m a lifelong registered Republican. But even California Republicans don’t really feel a part of their party, most of us are just too lazy to change parties because the other side has nothing better to offer. In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs. Don’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
-
January 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM #129110
temeculaguy
ParticipantJumby, you win with the “it’s all related” line, I will now go stand in my place that you put me in.
You know that every president we have ever elected has been a white male christian with the exception of a single catholic and it took almost 200 years to get that one. I fear along with Bunny that Huckabee vs. Edwards will be your choice come November. It was shaping up nicely, quite the mix, a woman, an african american with a muslim name, a mormon, an actor, lots of variety and it looked like something different this way comes. But what we east and west coast folks tend to forget is the middle of the country. Personally I opt to avoid anything between Arizona and New York and I’m a lifelong registered Republican. But even California Republicans don’t really feel a part of their party, most of us are just too lazy to change parties because the other side has nothing better to offer. In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs. Don’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
-
January 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM #129139
temeculaguy
ParticipantJumby, you win with the “it’s all related” line, I will now go stand in my place that you put me in.
You know that every president we have ever elected has been a white male christian with the exception of a single catholic and it took almost 200 years to get that one. I fear along with Bunny that Huckabee vs. Edwards will be your choice come November. It was shaping up nicely, quite the mix, a woman, an african american with a muslim name, a mormon, an actor, lots of variety and it looked like something different this way comes. But what we east and west coast folks tend to forget is the middle of the country. Personally I opt to avoid anything between Arizona and New York and I’m a lifelong registered Republican. But even California Republicans don’t really feel a part of their party, most of us are just too lazy to change parties because the other side has nothing better to offer. In my adult lifetime, only Reagan and Bill Clinton were good presidents overall, each had their faults but their merits outweighed them, since then I root for the nutballs. Don’t discount the middle of the country, you aren’t one of them so you can’t understand how they think. There a re plenty of people who pay to see Nascar events and pay per view UFC fights and consider gravy a food group, the reality is that there are more of them than us, we get who they pick.
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM #128984
Anonymous
GuestI think it matters moreso the party than the person. I’d like to see Obama get in actually. Obama as president and Hillary as vice-president would be pretty awesome. I think it would also work well in reverse.
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM #128991
Anonymous
GuestI think it matters moreso the party than the person. I’d like to see Obama get in actually. Obama as president and Hillary as vice-president would be pretty awesome. I think it would also work well in reverse.
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM #129060
Anonymous
GuestI think it matters moreso the party than the person. I’d like to see Obama get in actually. Obama as president and Hillary as vice-president would be pretty awesome. I think it would also work well in reverse.
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM #129089
Anonymous
GuestI think it matters moreso the party than the person. I’d like to see Obama get in actually. Obama as president and Hillary as vice-president would be pretty awesome. I think it would also work well in reverse.
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM #128943
Jumby
ParticipantI think it’s ridiculous to say that it doesn’t matter who the president is because it doesn’t impact in their life.
“It’s all related!”
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM #128951
Jumby
ParticipantI think it’s ridiculous to say that it doesn’t matter who the president is because it doesn’t impact in their life.
“It’s all related!”
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM #129020
Jumby
ParticipantI think it’s ridiculous to say that it doesn’t matter who the president is because it doesn’t impact in their life.
“It’s all related!”
-
January 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM #129049
Jumby
ParticipantI think it’s ridiculous to say that it doesn’t matter who the president is because it doesn’t impact in their life.
“It’s all related!”
-
January 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM #128616
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantI’m a long-life Democrat and am beginning to agree with Temecula Guy. I know that writing local officials and politicans has much more of an impact.
Call me jaded, but I think the president staffs the government with friends and cronies (sheeeshhh…we all remember “Brownie” after Katrina, right?) Plum diplomatic posts are awarded to $upporter$, etc. Then, backrooms deals are cut that support the President’s $upporter$ and agenda.
I’m not wild about ANY of the dem candidates. As a woman, I really want to like Hillary. I loved Bill (much to my husband’s dismay). But, I dont think she can really win.
If you look at their websites, with their issue positions, it’s almost laughable. John Edwards wants to “end poverty in a generation” along with other grandiose (and unrealistic) goals. Yeah, right. They all blow a lot of smoke at us…and nothing ever really changes.
The one candiate that scares the CRAP out of me is Huckabee…I’m tired of mixing religion and politics, and dont really want to see a Baptist minister in the Oval Office. Especially one with a son that tortures animals for fun (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)
Sorry for the rant. I’d better go eat something. I’m hypoglycemic and cranky…
-
January 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM #128626
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantI’m a long-life Democrat and am beginning to agree with Temecula Guy. I know that writing local officials and politicans has much more of an impact.
Call me jaded, but I think the president staffs the government with friends and cronies (sheeeshhh…we all remember “Brownie” after Katrina, right?) Plum diplomatic posts are awarded to $upporter$, etc. Then, backrooms deals are cut that support the President’s $upporter$ and agenda.
I’m not wild about ANY of the dem candidates. As a woman, I really want to like Hillary. I loved Bill (much to my husband’s dismay). But, I dont think she can really win.
If you look at their websites, with their issue positions, it’s almost laughable. John Edwards wants to “end poverty in a generation” along with other grandiose (and unrealistic) goals. Yeah, right. They all blow a lot of smoke at us…and nothing ever really changes.
The one candiate that scares the CRAP out of me is Huckabee…I’m tired of mixing religion and politics, and dont really want to see a Baptist minister in the Oval Office. Especially one with a son that tortures animals for fun (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)
Sorry for the rant. I’d better go eat something. I’m hypoglycemic and cranky…
-
January 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM #128695
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantI’m a long-life Democrat and am beginning to agree with Temecula Guy. I know that writing local officials and politicans has much more of an impact.
Call me jaded, but I think the president staffs the government with friends and cronies (sheeeshhh…we all remember “Brownie” after Katrina, right?) Plum diplomatic posts are awarded to $upporter$, etc. Then, backrooms deals are cut that support the President’s $upporter$ and agenda.
I’m not wild about ANY of the dem candidates. As a woman, I really want to like Hillary. I loved Bill (much to my husband’s dismay). But, I dont think she can really win.
If you look at their websites, with their issue positions, it’s almost laughable. John Edwards wants to “end poverty in a generation” along with other grandiose (and unrealistic) goals. Yeah, right. They all blow a lot of smoke at us…and nothing ever really changes.
The one candiate that scares the CRAP out of me is Huckabee…I’m tired of mixing religion and politics, and dont really want to see a Baptist minister in the Oval Office. Especially one with a son that tortures animals for fun (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)
Sorry for the rant. I’d better go eat something. I’m hypoglycemic and cranky…
-
January 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM #128724
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantI’m a long-life Democrat and am beginning to agree with Temecula Guy. I know that writing local officials and politicans has much more of an impact.
Call me jaded, but I think the president staffs the government with friends and cronies (sheeeshhh…we all remember “Brownie” after Katrina, right?) Plum diplomatic posts are awarded to $upporter$, etc. Then, backrooms deals are cut that support the President’s $upporter$ and agenda.
I’m not wild about ANY of the dem candidates. As a woman, I really want to like Hillary. I loved Bill (much to my husband’s dismay). But, I dont think she can really win.
If you look at their websites, with their issue positions, it’s almost laughable. John Edwards wants to “end poverty in a generation” along with other grandiose (and unrealistic) goals. Yeah, right. They all blow a lot of smoke at us…and nothing ever really changes.
The one candiate that scares the CRAP out of me is Huckabee…I’m tired of mixing religion and politics, and dont really want to see a Baptist minister in the Oval Office. Especially one with a son that tortures animals for fun (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)
Sorry for the rant. I’d better go eat something. I’m hypoglycemic and cranky…
-
January 3, 2008 at 6:50 AM #128523
TheBreeze
ParticipantHmmmm … I have to disagree. I think who the President is can have a major influence on society.
I voted for Bush in 2000 just because he was a Republican even though I had a strong suspicion that he was a dumbass. Turns out, not only was he a dumbass, he is also probably the most corrupt Presidents since Nixon. If Gore had won in 2000, I seriously doubt we would be in Iraq now. Plus, I believe that Bush’s “Ownership Society” policies played a major role in this housing bubble. If I could go back in time, I’d definitely vote for Gore in 2000 (as would a large majority of Americans I suspect).
Looking back, some of the best times for the United States in recent years have been the Clinton years. I believe that was not only due to Clinton being a smart guy, but also because Republicans controlled Congress and were able to shut down some of Clinton’s more radical ideas, such as universal health care. I’d like to see us get back to a split government, with Obama in the White House and Republicans in charge of Congress. Unfortunately, I think Bush has screwed things up so badly that Democrats will win both the White House and Congress.
-
January 3, 2008 at 6:50 AM #128532
TheBreeze
ParticipantHmmmm … I have to disagree. I think who the President is can have a major influence on society.
I voted for Bush in 2000 just because he was a Republican even though I had a strong suspicion that he was a dumbass. Turns out, not only was he a dumbass, he is also probably the most corrupt Presidents since Nixon. If Gore had won in 2000, I seriously doubt we would be in Iraq now. Plus, I believe that Bush’s “Ownership Society” policies played a major role in this housing bubble. If I could go back in time, I’d definitely vote for Gore in 2000 (as would a large majority of Americans I suspect).
Looking back, some of the best times for the United States in recent years have been the Clinton years. I believe that was not only due to Clinton being a smart guy, but also because Republicans controlled Congress and were able to shut down some of Clinton’s more radical ideas, such as universal health care. I’d like to see us get back to a split government, with Obama in the White House and Republicans in charge of Congress. Unfortunately, I think Bush has screwed things up so badly that Democrats will win both the White House and Congress.
-
January 3, 2008 at 6:50 AM #128600
TheBreeze
ParticipantHmmmm … I have to disagree. I think who the President is can have a major influence on society.
I voted for Bush in 2000 just because he was a Republican even though I had a strong suspicion that he was a dumbass. Turns out, not only was he a dumbass, he is also probably the most corrupt Presidents since Nixon. If Gore had won in 2000, I seriously doubt we would be in Iraq now. Plus, I believe that Bush’s “Ownership Society” policies played a major role in this housing bubble. If I could go back in time, I’d definitely vote for Gore in 2000 (as would a large majority of Americans I suspect).
Looking back, some of the best times for the United States in recent years have been the Clinton years. I believe that was not only due to Clinton being a smart guy, but also because Republicans controlled Congress and were able to shut down some of Clinton’s more radical ideas, such as universal health care. I’d like to see us get back to a split government, with Obama in the White House and Republicans in charge of Congress. Unfortunately, I think Bush has screwed things up so badly that Democrats will win both the White House and Congress.
-
January 3, 2008 at 6:50 AM #128629
TheBreeze
ParticipantHmmmm … I have to disagree. I think who the President is can have a major influence on society.
I voted for Bush in 2000 just because he was a Republican even though I had a strong suspicion that he was a dumbass. Turns out, not only was he a dumbass, he is also probably the most corrupt Presidents since Nixon. If Gore had won in 2000, I seriously doubt we would be in Iraq now. Plus, I believe that Bush’s “Ownership Society” policies played a major role in this housing bubble. If I could go back in time, I’d definitely vote for Gore in 2000 (as would a large majority of Americans I suspect).
Looking back, some of the best times for the United States in recent years have been the Clinton years. I believe that was not only due to Clinton being a smart guy, but also because Republicans controlled Congress and were able to shut down some of Clinton’s more radical ideas, such as universal health care. I’d like to see us get back to a split government, with Obama in the White House and Republicans in charge of Congress. Unfortunately, I think Bush has screwed things up so badly that Democrats will win both the White House and Congress.
-
-
January 3, 2008 at 4:27 AM #128518
Ex-SD
Participanttemeculaguy: I’m with you.
I used to naively believe that who the person in the oval office was would make more of a difference than it really does but in reality, it ain’t so. In the end, the overwhelming majority of politicians are crooks and will take a bribe to enrich themselves and say anything to keep getting elected so they can keep taking more bribes. For each one that they catch, a thousand more get away with it. And when they get caught, (since most are lawyers) they find loopholes to slip out of a conviction.One of the most recent, glaring cases was William J. Jefferson of Louisiana who was caught with $90k in cash that he took as a bribe and that he was hiding in his freezer. (earlier, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100k in $100 bills in a leather briefcase) Despite this evidence (and much more), legal maneuvering has kept him out of prison and he ran for re-election and won. Presently, he has finally been indicted by a grand jury and but is still serving in Congress. In the end, he will probably get off with a slap on the hand………..and we’ll never know how many times and how much money he took as bribes over his political career.
And on a local level………….who could ever forget, “Greedy” Duke Cunningham?
And so, the political beauty pageant goes on and the general public gets poorer by the actions of these fools on Capitol Hill.
-
January 3, 2008 at 4:27 AM #128527
Ex-SD
Participanttemeculaguy: I’m with you.
I used to naively believe that who the person in the oval office was would make more of a difference than it really does but in reality, it ain’t so. In the end, the overwhelming majority of politicians are crooks and will take a bribe to enrich themselves and say anything to keep getting elected so they can keep taking more bribes. For each one that they catch, a thousand more get away with it. And when they get caught, (since most are lawyers) they find loopholes to slip out of a conviction.One of the most recent, glaring cases was William J. Jefferson of Louisiana who was caught with $90k in cash that he took as a bribe and that he was hiding in his freezer. (earlier, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100k in $100 bills in a leather briefcase) Despite this evidence (and much more), legal maneuvering has kept him out of prison and he ran for re-election and won. Presently, he has finally been indicted by a grand jury and but is still serving in Congress. In the end, he will probably get off with a slap on the hand………..and we’ll never know how many times and how much money he took as bribes over his political career.
And on a local level………….who could ever forget, “Greedy” Duke Cunningham?
And so, the political beauty pageant goes on and the general public gets poorer by the actions of these fools on Capitol Hill.
-
January 3, 2008 at 4:27 AM #128595
Ex-SD
Participanttemeculaguy: I’m with you.
I used to naively believe that who the person in the oval office was would make more of a difference than it really does but in reality, it ain’t so. In the end, the overwhelming majority of politicians are crooks and will take a bribe to enrich themselves and say anything to keep getting elected so they can keep taking more bribes. For each one that they catch, a thousand more get away with it. And when they get caught, (since most are lawyers) they find loopholes to slip out of a conviction.One of the most recent, glaring cases was William J. Jefferson of Louisiana who was caught with $90k in cash that he took as a bribe and that he was hiding in his freezer. (earlier, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100k in $100 bills in a leather briefcase) Despite this evidence (and much more), legal maneuvering has kept him out of prison and he ran for re-election and won. Presently, he has finally been indicted by a grand jury and but is still serving in Congress. In the end, he will probably get off with a slap on the hand………..and we’ll never know how many times and how much money he took as bribes over his political career.
And on a local level………….who could ever forget, “Greedy” Duke Cunningham?
And so, the political beauty pageant goes on and the general public gets poorer by the actions of these fools on Capitol Hill.
-
January 3, 2008 at 4:27 AM #128624
Ex-SD
Participanttemeculaguy: I’m with you.
I used to naively believe that who the person in the oval office was would make more of a difference than it really does but in reality, it ain’t so. In the end, the overwhelming majority of politicians are crooks and will take a bribe to enrich themselves and say anything to keep getting elected so they can keep taking more bribes. For each one that they catch, a thousand more get away with it. And when they get caught, (since most are lawyers) they find loopholes to slip out of a conviction.One of the most recent, glaring cases was William J. Jefferson of Louisiana who was caught with $90k in cash that he took as a bribe and that he was hiding in his freezer. (earlier, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100k in $100 bills in a leather briefcase) Despite this evidence (and much more), legal maneuvering has kept him out of prison and he ran for re-election and won. Presently, he has finally been indicted by a grand jury and but is still serving in Congress. In the end, he will probably get off with a slap on the hand………..and we’ll never know how many times and how much money he took as bribes over his political career.
And on a local level………….who could ever forget, “Greedy” Duke Cunningham?
And so, the political beauty pageant goes on and the general public gets poorer by the actions of these fools on Capitol Hill.
-
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:48 AM #128507
temeculaguy
ParticipantSandi, were you in that video? I stay off the political threads because I don’t believe it matters who the president is. Your state, county and city officials have far more impact on your actual life but everyone gets all hot and bothered about the national election. I do like your enthusiasm, I’ll go to his website and if I like his stuff, you win, I’ll vote for him since nobody else has me very excited at this point. As a rule I generally try and trade my vote for sex or money but what the hell I’ll give it away for free, I voted for Perot once, how bad can this be. All a politician has to really do to get my vote is to run on a traffic free platform. I wan’t a politician to tell me he will pave everything he sees, if there is even five minutes of traffic, people will be fired, habitats destroyed, homes demolished and freeways built. Nobody gets free money, nobody gets medical care, nobody gets an education until the workers footing the bill for this gravy train can get anywhere and everywhere, traffic free. Have all the abortions and guns you want, leave me out of it and let me get where I’m going, I’m that easy.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:48 AM #128517
temeculaguy
ParticipantSandi, were you in that video? I stay off the political threads because I don’t believe it matters who the president is. Your state, county and city officials have far more impact on your actual life but everyone gets all hot and bothered about the national election. I do like your enthusiasm, I’ll go to his website and if I like his stuff, you win, I’ll vote for him since nobody else has me very excited at this point. As a rule I generally try and trade my vote for sex or money but what the hell I’ll give it away for free, I voted for Perot once, how bad can this be. All a politician has to really do to get my vote is to run on a traffic free platform. I wan’t a politician to tell me he will pave everything he sees, if there is even five minutes of traffic, people will be fired, habitats destroyed, homes demolished and freeways built. Nobody gets free money, nobody gets medical care, nobody gets an education until the workers footing the bill for this gravy train can get anywhere and everywhere, traffic free. Have all the abortions and guns you want, leave me out of it and let me get where I’m going, I’m that easy.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:48 AM #128585
temeculaguy
ParticipantSandi, were you in that video? I stay off the political threads because I don’t believe it matters who the president is. Your state, county and city officials have far more impact on your actual life but everyone gets all hot and bothered about the national election. I do like your enthusiasm, I’ll go to his website and if I like his stuff, you win, I’ll vote for him since nobody else has me very excited at this point. As a rule I generally try and trade my vote for sex or money but what the hell I’ll give it away for free, I voted for Perot once, how bad can this be. All a politician has to really do to get my vote is to run on a traffic free platform. I wan’t a politician to tell me he will pave everything he sees, if there is even five minutes of traffic, people will be fired, habitats destroyed, homes demolished and freeways built. Nobody gets free money, nobody gets medical care, nobody gets an education until the workers footing the bill for this gravy train can get anywhere and everywhere, traffic free. Have all the abortions and guns you want, leave me out of it and let me get where I’m going, I’m that easy.
-
January 3, 2008 at 12:48 AM #128614
temeculaguy
ParticipantSandi, were you in that video? I stay off the political threads because I don’t believe it matters who the president is. Your state, county and city officials have far more impact on your actual life but everyone gets all hot and bothered about the national election. I do like your enthusiasm, I’ll go to his website and if I like his stuff, you win, I’ll vote for him since nobody else has me very excited at this point. As a rule I generally try and trade my vote for sex or money but what the hell I’ll give it away for free, I voted for Perot once, how bad can this be. All a politician has to really do to get my vote is to run on a traffic free platform. I wan’t a politician to tell me he will pave everything he sees, if there is even five minutes of traffic, people will be fired, habitats destroyed, homes demolished and freeways built. Nobody gets free money, nobody gets medical care, nobody gets an education until the workers footing the bill for this gravy train can get anywhere and everywhere, traffic free. Have all the abortions and guns you want, leave me out of it and let me get where I’m going, I’m that easy.
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM #128476
XBoxBoy
ParticipantRegardless of whether the president has much impact on your life, as a Californian, your vote has virtually no impact on who will be elected. In political circles it’s a given that whoever the Democrats run in California will win ALL of the electorial college votes for the state of California. And I guarantee this year will be no different. In the last several elections the republican candidate has not even bothered to do anything more than one or two token appearances in California.
There are three ways you can look at this:
1) Not vote since the result is a foregone conclusion.
2) Be a good sheeple and vote Democratic and enjoy the fact you voted for the winning candidate.
3) Vote for some radical nutcase candidate, hoping to send a “message” that you are fed up with the lousy bums the demrepubs give us.My personal preference is #3, but then again I never have had much sense and always had a soft spot for radical nutcases.
XBoxBoy
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM #128501
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantVoting is so ingrained into me…my dad was a precinct captain in Chicago for the original Mayor Daley (in the 60s and 70s). There was never any question in our house that we were Dems and that when we turned 18 we would do our civic duty and vote.
That having been said, I’m not a mindless idiot. I DO take a look at the issues. Unfortunately, this time I’m just not dazzled by any of the candidates – GOP or Dem.
I agreed with a previous poster that the Clinton years were a time of peace and prosperity. Maybe if Hill is in office, Bill will be a “shadow” president. That is about the only thing that would prompt me to vote for her!
-
January 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM #128771
NotCranky
ParticipantBush
Clinton
Bush
ClintonI can’t stand the sight of that when we have a population of 300M.I really hope we have a “nut case” to vote for, otherwise I am going to have to vote for MLK again. If we ever have another Bush or if Chelsea isn’t something really special when it’s her turn ……
-
January 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM #128938
NotCranky
ParticipantBush
Clinton
Bush
ClintonI can’t stand the sight of that when we have a population of 300M.I really hope we have a “nut case” to vote for, otherwise I am going to have to vote for MLK again. If we ever have another Bush or if Chelsea isn’t something really special when it’s her turn ……
-
January 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM #128946
NotCranky
ParticipantBush
Clinton
Bush
ClintonI can’t stand the sight of that when we have a population of 300M.I really hope we have a “nut case” to vote for, otherwise I am going to have to vote for MLK again. If we ever have another Bush or if Chelsea isn’t something really special when it’s her turn ……
-
January 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM #129015
NotCranky
ParticipantBush
Clinton
Bush
ClintonI can’t stand the sight of that when we have a population of 300M.I really hope we have a “nut case” to vote for, otherwise I am going to have to vote for MLK again. If we ever have another Bush or if Chelsea isn’t something really special when it’s her turn ……
-
January 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM #129044
NotCranky
ParticipantBush
Clinton
Bush
ClintonI can’t stand the sight of that when we have a population of 300M.I really hope we have a “nut case” to vote for, otherwise I am going to have to vote for MLK again. If we ever have another Bush or if Chelsea isn’t something really special when it’s her turn ……
-
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM #128666
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantVoting is so ingrained into me…my dad was a precinct captain in Chicago for the original Mayor Daley (in the 60s and 70s). There was never any question in our house that we were Dems and that when we turned 18 we would do our civic duty and vote.
That having been said, I’m not a mindless idiot. I DO take a look at the issues. Unfortunately, this time I’m just not dazzled by any of the candidates – GOP or Dem.
I agreed with a previous poster that the Clinton years were a time of peace and prosperity. Maybe if Hill is in office, Bill will be a “shadow” president. That is about the only thing that would prompt me to vote for her!
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM #128677
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantVoting is so ingrained into me…my dad was a precinct captain in Chicago for the original Mayor Daley (in the 60s and 70s). There was never any question in our house that we were Dems and that when we turned 18 we would do our civic duty and vote.
That having been said, I’m not a mindless idiot. I DO take a look at the issues. Unfortunately, this time I’m just not dazzled by any of the candidates – GOP or Dem.
I agreed with a previous poster that the Clinton years were a time of peace and prosperity. Maybe if Hill is in office, Bill will be a “shadow” president. That is about the only thing that would prompt me to vote for her!
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM #128745
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantVoting is so ingrained into me…my dad was a precinct captain in Chicago for the original Mayor Daley (in the 60s and 70s). There was never any question in our house that we were Dems and that when we turned 18 we would do our civic duty and vote.
That having been said, I’m not a mindless idiot. I DO take a look at the issues. Unfortunately, this time I’m just not dazzled by any of the candidates – GOP or Dem.
I agreed with a previous poster that the Clinton years were a time of peace and prosperity. Maybe if Hill is in office, Bill will be a “shadow” president. That is about the only thing that would prompt me to vote for her!
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM #128774
Bunny Meadows
ParticipantVoting is so ingrained into me…my dad was a precinct captain in Chicago for the original Mayor Daley (in the 60s and 70s). There was never any question in our house that we were Dems and that when we turned 18 we would do our civic duty and vote.
That having been said, I’m not a mindless idiot. I DO take a look at the issues. Unfortunately, this time I’m just not dazzled by any of the candidates – GOP or Dem.
I agreed with a previous poster that the Clinton years were a time of peace and prosperity. Maybe if Hill is in office, Bill will be a “shadow” president. That is about the only thing that would prompt me to vote for her!
-
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM #128642
XBoxBoy
ParticipantRegardless of whether the president has much impact on your life, as a Californian, your vote has virtually no impact on who will be elected. In political circles it’s a given that whoever the Democrats run in California will win ALL of the electorial college votes for the state of California. And I guarantee this year will be no different. In the last several elections the republican candidate has not even bothered to do anything more than one or two token appearances in California.
There are three ways you can look at this:
1) Not vote since the result is a foregone conclusion.
2) Be a good sheeple and vote Democratic and enjoy the fact you voted for the winning candidate.
3) Vote for some radical nutcase candidate, hoping to send a “message” that you are fed up with the lousy bums the demrepubs give us.My personal preference is #3, but then again I never have had much sense and always had a soft spot for radical nutcases.
XBoxBoy
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM #128651
XBoxBoy
ParticipantRegardless of whether the president has much impact on your life, as a Californian, your vote has virtually no impact on who will be elected. In political circles it’s a given that whoever the Democrats run in California will win ALL of the electorial college votes for the state of California. And I guarantee this year will be no different. In the last several elections the republican candidate has not even bothered to do anything more than one or two token appearances in California.
There are three ways you can look at this:
1) Not vote since the result is a foregone conclusion.
2) Be a good sheeple and vote Democratic and enjoy the fact you voted for the winning candidate.
3) Vote for some radical nutcase candidate, hoping to send a “message” that you are fed up with the lousy bums the demrepubs give us.My personal preference is #3, but then again I never have had much sense and always had a soft spot for radical nutcases.
XBoxBoy
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM #128720
XBoxBoy
ParticipantRegardless of whether the president has much impact on your life, as a Californian, your vote has virtually no impact on who will be elected. In political circles it’s a given that whoever the Democrats run in California will win ALL of the electorial college votes for the state of California. And I guarantee this year will be no different. In the last several elections the republican candidate has not even bothered to do anything more than one or two token appearances in California.
There are three ways you can look at this:
1) Not vote since the result is a foregone conclusion.
2) Be a good sheeple and vote Democratic and enjoy the fact you voted for the winning candidate.
3) Vote for some radical nutcase candidate, hoping to send a “message” that you are fed up with the lousy bums the demrepubs give us.My personal preference is #3, but then again I never have had much sense and always had a soft spot for radical nutcases.
XBoxBoy
-
January 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM #128749
XBoxBoy
ParticipantRegardless of whether the president has much impact on your life, as a Californian, your vote has virtually no impact on who will be elected. In political circles it’s a given that whoever the Democrats run in California will win ALL of the electorial college votes for the state of California. And I guarantee this year will be no different. In the last several elections the republican candidate has not even bothered to do anything more than one or two token appearances in California.
There are three ways you can look at this:
1) Not vote since the result is a foregone conclusion.
2) Be a good sheeple and vote Democratic and enjoy the fact you voted for the winning candidate.
3) Vote for some radical nutcase candidate, hoping to send a “message” that you are fed up with the lousy bums the demrepubs give us.My personal preference is #3, but then again I never have had much sense and always had a soft spot for radical nutcases.
XBoxBoy
-
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.