Has Goldman fatally damaged their Franchise?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
It’s very simple. Obama wants to regulate Goldman despite the campaign donations he received from Goldman employees. Sounds like courage on the part of Obama.

[/quote]

Brian: Dude, you should start your own comedy show. Seriously. Unless, of course, you’re saying this crap with a straight face and really believe it.

I thought you were “morally flexible”? You know, like Obama.

He wants to regulate Wall Street? Really? Then why in God’s name hasn’t he?

Are you talking about the Dodd legislation? Or, does Obama have something more serious and real in mind? I mean, if you have the inside track on something, do tell.

You don’t think the Dems do cronyism like the Republicans? Are you that much of a naif? Wake up and smell the graft, Brian. The fix is in, but apparently you didn’t get the memo.

“Meet the old boss, same as the new boss”.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
You don’t think the Dems do cronyism like the Republicans? Are you that much of a naif? Wake up and smell the graft, Brian. The fix is in, but apparently you didn’t get the memo.

[/quote]

Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
You don’t think the Dems do cronyism like the Republicans? Are you that much of a naif? Wake up and smell the graft, Brian. The fix is in, but apparently you didn’t get the memo.

[/quote]

Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
You don’t think the Dems do cronyism like the Republicans? Are you that much of a naif? Wake up and smell the graft, Brian. The fix is in, but apparently you didn’t get the memo.

[/quote]

Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
You don’t think the Dems do cronyism like the Republicans? Are you that much of a naif? Wake up and smell the graft, Brian. The fix is in, but apparently you didn’t get the memo.

[/quote]

Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
You don’t think the Dems do cronyism like the Republicans? Are you that much of a naif? Wake up and smell the graft, Brian. The fix is in, but apparently you didn’t get the memo.

[/quote]

Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.[/quote]

Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false. And, quit beating the “incremental change” drum. We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.

What we are seeing now doesn’t even comprise incremental change. Its a toothless joke and a sop to the outraged masses, just like this joke of an SEC case against Goldman Sachs.

Madoff served himself up on a platter to the SEC and that investigation/litigation has essentially stalled. Heard much about ole Bernie recently? Nope. Wonder why?

If you’re serious and, more important, honest, you’ll admit that the present administration is down on its knees, doing the “Neil and Bob Show” just like Dubya and Clinton were before.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.[/quote]

Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false. And, quit beating the “incremental change” drum. We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.

What we are seeing now doesn’t even comprise incremental change. Its a toothless joke and a sop to the outraged masses, just like this joke of an SEC case against Goldman Sachs.

Madoff served himself up on a platter to the SEC and that investigation/litigation has essentially stalled. Heard much about ole Bernie recently? Nope. Wonder why?

If you’re serious and, more important, honest, you’ll admit that the present administration is down on its knees, doing the “Neil and Bob Show” just like Dubya and Clinton were before.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.[/quote]

Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false. And, quit beating the “incremental change” drum. We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.

What we are seeing now doesn’t even comprise incremental change. Its a toothless joke and a sop to the outraged masses, just like this joke of an SEC case against Goldman Sachs.

Madoff served himself up on a platter to the SEC and that investigation/litigation has essentially stalled. Heard much about ole Bernie recently? Nope. Wonder why?

If you’re serious and, more important, honest, you’ll admit that the present administration is down on its knees, doing the “Neil and Bob Show” just like Dubya and Clinton were before.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.[/quote]

Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false. And, quit beating the “incremental change” drum. We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.

What we are seeing now doesn’t even comprise incremental change. Its a toothless joke and a sop to the outraged masses, just like this joke of an SEC case against Goldman Sachs.

Madoff served himself up on a platter to the SEC and that investigation/litigation has essentially stalled. Heard much about ole Bernie recently? Nope. Wonder why?

If you’re serious and, more important, honest, you’ll admit that the present administration is down on its knees, doing the “Neil and Bob Show” just like Dubya and Clinton were before.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
Of course, I see the cronyism and graft.

I believe in incremental improvements.

Allan, do you want no regulation at all like we have now. Or do you want to put derivatives on an exchange. Those are the two choices we face right now.

You have to crawl before you can walk.[/quote]

Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false. And, quit beating the “incremental change” drum. We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.

What we are seeing now doesn’t even comprise incremental change. Its a toothless joke and a sop to the outraged masses, just like this joke of an SEC case against Goldman Sachs.

Madoff served himself up on a platter to the SEC and that investigation/litigation has essentially stalled. Heard much about ole Bernie recently? Nope. Wonder why?

If you’re serious and, more important, honest, you’ll admit that the present administration is down on its knees, doing the “Neil and Bob Show” just like Dubya and Clinton were before.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false.
[/quote]

Ok. Let me rephrase then.
Do you want to force the banks to trade derivatives in a regulated exchange; to do you want to continue to let them trade in secret?

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.
[/quote]

I agree that we need sweeping change. But failing that, I would rather have some small changes in the right direction than no change at all.

Romantic revolutionaries are great. They generally bring about sweeping change. But along with that comes poverty. I’d rather be rich.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false.
[/quote]

Ok. Let me rephrase then.
Do you want to force the banks to trade derivatives in a regulated exchange; to do you want to continue to let them trade in secret?

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.
[/quote]

I agree that we need sweeping change. But failing that, I would rather have some small changes in the right direction than no change at all.

Romantic revolutionaries are great. They generally bring about sweeping change. But along with that comes poverty. I’d rather be rich.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false.
[/quote]

Ok. Let me rephrase then.
Do you want to force the banks to trade derivatives in a regulated exchange; to do you want to continue to let them trade in secret?

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.
[/quote]

I agree that we need sweeping change. But failing that, I would rather have some small changes in the right direction than no change at all.

Romantic revolutionaries are great. They generally bring about sweeping change. But along with that comes poverty. I’d rather be rich.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Brian: We have NO regulation at all? Please. That remark is completely and obviously false.
[/quote]

Ok. Let me rephrase then.
Do you want to force the banks to trade derivatives in a regulated exchange; to do you want to continue to let them trade in secret?

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We do NOT need incremental change: We need sweeping and comprehensive change.
[/quote]

I agree that we need sweeping change. But failing that, I would rather have some small changes in the right direction than no change at all.

Romantic revolutionaries are great. They generally bring about sweeping change. But along with that comes poverty. I’d rather be rich.

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