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April 20, 2010 at 7:29 AM #541778April 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM #540863patbParticipant
[quote=SK in CV]Right Allen, they had a very temporary cash crunch. But never an equity crunch. They didn’t need, nor get any TARP money directly. But as counter-party, they got almost $13 billion in cash from AIG. Compared to Lehman, Bear Stearns or GM, they were never in danger.[/quote]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.
April 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM #540981patbParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Right Allen, they had a very temporary cash crunch. But never an equity crunch. They didn’t need, nor get any TARP money directly. But as counter-party, they got almost $13 billion in cash from AIG. Compared to Lehman, Bear Stearns or GM, they were never in danger.[/quote]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.
April 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM #541432patbParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Right Allen, they had a very temporary cash crunch. But never an equity crunch. They didn’t need, nor get any TARP money directly. But as counter-party, they got almost $13 billion in cash from AIG. Compared to Lehman, Bear Stearns or GM, they were never in danger.[/quote]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.
April 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM #541522patbParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Right Allen, they had a very temporary cash crunch. But never an equity crunch. They didn’t need, nor get any TARP money directly. But as counter-party, they got almost $13 billion in cash from AIG. Compared to Lehman, Bear Stearns or GM, they were never in danger.[/quote]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.
April 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM #541783patbParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Right Allen, they had a very temporary cash crunch. But never an equity crunch. They didn’t need, nor get any TARP money directly. But as counter-party, they got almost $13 billion in cash from AIG. Compared to Lehman, Bear Stearns or GM, they were never in danger.[/quote]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.
April 20, 2010 at 7:37 AM #540868patbParticipant[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]
GS is an investment bank and not a consumer bank, so I don’t think that public image is as important to them.
[/quote]Technically they aren’t an investment bank anymore – they switched their label (and acquired *some* regulation) becoming a commercial bank – because commercial banks got more government cheese – in the form of virtually free overnight lending at the Fed window.[/quote]
Goldman is at the end of the day a trading house and a hedge fund. If nobody comes to them to make deals, because they distrust Goldman, how much does that impair the franchise.
April 20, 2010 at 7:37 AM #540986patbParticipant[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]
GS is an investment bank and not a consumer bank, so I don’t think that public image is as important to them.
[/quote]Technically they aren’t an investment bank anymore – they switched their label (and acquired *some* regulation) becoming a commercial bank – because commercial banks got more government cheese – in the form of virtually free overnight lending at the Fed window.[/quote]
Goldman is at the end of the day a trading house and a hedge fund. If nobody comes to them to make deals, because they distrust Goldman, how much does that impair the franchise.
April 20, 2010 at 7:37 AM #541437patbParticipant[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]
GS is an investment bank and not a consumer bank, so I don’t think that public image is as important to them.
[/quote]Technically they aren’t an investment bank anymore – they switched their label (and acquired *some* regulation) becoming a commercial bank – because commercial banks got more government cheese – in the form of virtually free overnight lending at the Fed window.[/quote]
Goldman is at the end of the day a trading house and a hedge fund. If nobody comes to them to make deals, because they distrust Goldman, how much does that impair the franchise.
April 20, 2010 at 7:37 AM #541527patbParticipant[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]
GS is an investment bank and not a consumer bank, so I don’t think that public image is as important to them.
[/quote]Technically they aren’t an investment bank anymore – they switched their label (and acquired *some* regulation) becoming a commercial bank – because commercial banks got more government cheese – in the form of virtually free overnight lending at the Fed window.[/quote]
Goldman is at the end of the day a trading house and a hedge fund. If nobody comes to them to make deals, because they distrust Goldman, how much does that impair the franchise.
April 20, 2010 at 7:37 AM #541788patbParticipant[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]
GS is an investment bank and not a consumer bank, so I don’t think that public image is as important to them.
[/quote]Technically they aren’t an investment bank anymore – they switched their label (and acquired *some* regulation) becoming a commercial bank – because commercial banks got more government cheese – in the form of virtually free overnight lending at the Fed window.[/quote]
Goldman is at the end of the day a trading house and a hedge fund. If nobody comes to them to make deals, because they distrust Goldman, how much does that impair the franchise.
April 20, 2010 at 7:40 AM #540878SD RealtorParticipantYeah looks like Goldman is shaking in their boots.
April 20, 2010 at 7:40 AM #540995SD RealtorParticipantYeah looks like Goldman is shaking in their boots.
April 20, 2010 at 7:40 AM #541447SD RealtorParticipantYeah looks like Goldman is shaking in their boots.
April 20, 2010 at 7:40 AM #541535SD RealtorParticipantYeah looks like Goldman is shaking in their boots.
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