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October 1, 2008 at 9:18 AM #279109October 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM #278792NotCrankyParticipant
If the intent is to say that Bush wanted to limit the gse’s,therefore he is not responsible or equally responsible for this mess, I think the case is ruined.
There was more than one horse in this race and the reins were dropped on all of them. Bush failed to trip up one of them, gse’s, but all of them ended up on steroids, including his picks.October 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM #279060NotCrankyParticipantIf the intent is to say that Bush wanted to limit the gse’s,therefore he is not responsible or equally responsible for this mess, I think the case is ruined.
There was more than one horse in this race and the reins were dropped on all of them. Bush failed to trip up one of them, gse’s, but all of them ended up on steroids, including his picks.October 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM #279071NotCrankyParticipantIf the intent is to say that Bush wanted to limit the gse’s,therefore he is not responsible or equally responsible for this mess, I think the case is ruined.
There was more than one horse in this race and the reins were dropped on all of them. Bush failed to trip up one of them, gse’s, but all of them ended up on steroids, including his picks.October 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM #279108NotCrankyParticipantIf the intent is to say that Bush wanted to limit the gse’s,therefore he is not responsible or equally responsible for this mess, I think the case is ruined.
There was more than one horse in this race and the reins were dropped on all of them. Bush failed to trip up one of them, gse’s, but all of them ended up on steroids, including his picks.October 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM #279119NotCrankyParticipantIf the intent is to say that Bush wanted to limit the gse’s,therefore he is not responsible or equally responsible for this mess, I think the case is ruined.
There was more than one horse in this race and the reins were dropped on all of them. Bush failed to trip up one of them, gse’s, but all of them ended up on steroids, including his picks.October 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM #278817socratttParticipantAs we all admit, Repub’s and Dem’s alike, Bush did a terrible job as President of this country. Let’s also take into consideration that Iraq for the most part was a failure. Now looking back at the last eight years let’s take away two key components that Bush had little to do with. Firstly, Bush did not have his hand in 9/11, although many conspiracy theorist would beg to differ. Secondly, the housing market, which obviously took many years and a lot of deregulation to inflate. This would leave Bush with one major problem and that was Iraq.
As far as we know we went into Iraq to find WMDs and take out Saddam. Is it is possible that we actually went into Iraq to gain a foothold in the middle east so that our friend Ahmadenijad in Iran wouldn’t start using the Euro for oil which would essentially destroy the US Dollar? As much as I am not a fan of Bush, I start looking back at all these failures and start to wonder if just maybe Bush wasn’t really to blame for everything.
That is our biggest problem is we always have to blame someone for our problems rather than taking some responsibility. This country is full of greed and many of you need to learn that your greed played a role in this problem instead of always blaming others. I admit I wanted all the nice fancy cars and big houses and at one point I had that. It has been a hard pill to swallow, but I am now learning to sacrifice and shortly every American will have no choice but to learn what the word sacrifice means. We have all been spoiled and it is time for reality to set in!!
October 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM #279085socratttParticipantAs we all admit, Repub’s and Dem’s alike, Bush did a terrible job as President of this country. Let’s also take into consideration that Iraq for the most part was a failure. Now looking back at the last eight years let’s take away two key components that Bush had little to do with. Firstly, Bush did not have his hand in 9/11, although many conspiracy theorist would beg to differ. Secondly, the housing market, which obviously took many years and a lot of deregulation to inflate. This would leave Bush with one major problem and that was Iraq.
As far as we know we went into Iraq to find WMDs and take out Saddam. Is it is possible that we actually went into Iraq to gain a foothold in the middle east so that our friend Ahmadenijad in Iran wouldn’t start using the Euro for oil which would essentially destroy the US Dollar? As much as I am not a fan of Bush, I start looking back at all these failures and start to wonder if just maybe Bush wasn’t really to blame for everything.
That is our biggest problem is we always have to blame someone for our problems rather than taking some responsibility. This country is full of greed and many of you need to learn that your greed played a role in this problem instead of always blaming others. I admit I wanted all the nice fancy cars and big houses and at one point I had that. It has been a hard pill to swallow, but I am now learning to sacrifice and shortly every American will have no choice but to learn what the word sacrifice means. We have all been spoiled and it is time for reality to set in!!
October 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM #279096socratttParticipantAs we all admit, Repub’s and Dem’s alike, Bush did a terrible job as President of this country. Let’s also take into consideration that Iraq for the most part was a failure. Now looking back at the last eight years let’s take away two key components that Bush had little to do with. Firstly, Bush did not have his hand in 9/11, although many conspiracy theorist would beg to differ. Secondly, the housing market, which obviously took many years and a lot of deregulation to inflate. This would leave Bush with one major problem and that was Iraq.
As far as we know we went into Iraq to find WMDs and take out Saddam. Is it is possible that we actually went into Iraq to gain a foothold in the middle east so that our friend Ahmadenijad in Iran wouldn’t start using the Euro for oil which would essentially destroy the US Dollar? As much as I am not a fan of Bush, I start looking back at all these failures and start to wonder if just maybe Bush wasn’t really to blame for everything.
That is our biggest problem is we always have to blame someone for our problems rather than taking some responsibility. This country is full of greed and many of you need to learn that your greed played a role in this problem instead of always blaming others. I admit I wanted all the nice fancy cars and big houses and at one point I had that. It has been a hard pill to swallow, but I am now learning to sacrifice and shortly every American will have no choice but to learn what the word sacrifice means. We have all been spoiled and it is time for reality to set in!!
October 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM #279133socratttParticipantAs we all admit, Repub’s and Dem’s alike, Bush did a terrible job as President of this country. Let’s also take into consideration that Iraq for the most part was a failure. Now looking back at the last eight years let’s take away two key components that Bush had little to do with. Firstly, Bush did not have his hand in 9/11, although many conspiracy theorist would beg to differ. Secondly, the housing market, which obviously took many years and a lot of deregulation to inflate. This would leave Bush with one major problem and that was Iraq.
As far as we know we went into Iraq to find WMDs and take out Saddam. Is it is possible that we actually went into Iraq to gain a foothold in the middle east so that our friend Ahmadenijad in Iran wouldn’t start using the Euro for oil which would essentially destroy the US Dollar? As much as I am not a fan of Bush, I start looking back at all these failures and start to wonder if just maybe Bush wasn’t really to blame for everything.
That is our biggest problem is we always have to blame someone for our problems rather than taking some responsibility. This country is full of greed and many of you need to learn that your greed played a role in this problem instead of always blaming others. I admit I wanted all the nice fancy cars and big houses and at one point I had that. It has been a hard pill to swallow, but I am now learning to sacrifice and shortly every American will have no choice but to learn what the word sacrifice means. We have all been spoiled and it is time for reality to set in!!
October 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM #279144socratttParticipantAs we all admit, Repub’s and Dem’s alike, Bush did a terrible job as President of this country. Let’s also take into consideration that Iraq for the most part was a failure. Now looking back at the last eight years let’s take away two key components that Bush had little to do with. Firstly, Bush did not have his hand in 9/11, although many conspiracy theorist would beg to differ. Secondly, the housing market, which obviously took many years and a lot of deregulation to inflate. This would leave Bush with one major problem and that was Iraq.
As far as we know we went into Iraq to find WMDs and take out Saddam. Is it is possible that we actually went into Iraq to gain a foothold in the middle east so that our friend Ahmadenijad in Iran wouldn’t start using the Euro for oil which would essentially destroy the US Dollar? As much as I am not a fan of Bush, I start looking back at all these failures and start to wonder if just maybe Bush wasn’t really to blame for everything.
That is our biggest problem is we always have to blame someone for our problems rather than taking some responsibility. This country is full of greed and many of you need to learn that your greed played a role in this problem instead of always blaming others. I admit I wanted all the nice fancy cars and big houses and at one point I had that. It has been a hard pill to swallow, but I am now learning to sacrifice and shortly every American will have no choice but to learn what the word sacrifice means. We have all been spoiled and it is time for reality to set in!!
October 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM #278992crParticipantI think the course this thread has taken is indicative of the negative effect partisan politics has.
With but a very few exceptions our political leaders are incompetent embeciles.
Knowing that, the housing bubble should have been prevented by people realizing they can’t afford (and therefore shouldn’t buy) a house if you have to sell it when the full payments kick in. Plenty of us here figured that out, is that too much to expect?
Blame the polticians all you want (and I do too), but for decades now people have been trained to be stupid and not held accountable for their actions.
That’s as much a cultural movement as a political one, and equally at fault for this entire mess.
October 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM #279260crParticipantI think the course this thread has taken is indicative of the negative effect partisan politics has.
With but a very few exceptions our political leaders are incompetent embeciles.
Knowing that, the housing bubble should have been prevented by people realizing they can’t afford (and therefore shouldn’t buy) a house if you have to sell it when the full payments kick in. Plenty of us here figured that out, is that too much to expect?
Blame the polticians all you want (and I do too), but for decades now people have been trained to be stupid and not held accountable for their actions.
That’s as much a cultural movement as a political one, and equally at fault for this entire mess.
October 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM #279270crParticipantI think the course this thread has taken is indicative of the negative effect partisan politics has.
With but a very few exceptions our political leaders are incompetent embeciles.
Knowing that, the housing bubble should have been prevented by people realizing they can’t afford (and therefore shouldn’t buy) a house if you have to sell it when the full payments kick in. Plenty of us here figured that out, is that too much to expect?
Blame the polticians all you want (and I do too), but for decades now people have been trained to be stupid and not held accountable for their actions.
That’s as much a cultural movement as a political one, and equally at fault for this entire mess.
October 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM #279308crParticipantI think the course this thread has taken is indicative of the negative effect partisan politics has.
With but a very few exceptions our political leaders are incompetent embeciles.
Knowing that, the housing bubble should have been prevented by people realizing they can’t afford (and therefore shouldn’t buy) a house if you have to sell it when the full payments kick in. Plenty of us here figured that out, is that too much to expect?
Blame the polticians all you want (and I do too), but for decades now people have been trained to be stupid and not held accountable for their actions.
That’s as much a cultural movement as a political one, and equally at fault for this entire mess.
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