Global Warming???

[pertinazzio]

I work for a major national environmental outfit in Washington (we have a very good brand as they say) but I doubt that there is any policy measure or scheme that we are advocating that is likely to help with this lamentable situation. Emissions capping, international protocols, legislative initiatives, etc are all doomed to failure because we are too far along in the process. We should be concentrating our efforts on not how to stop global warming but how to deal with it. One possible solution would be to equip the earth with umbrellas (no joke!) or to otherwise change the reflectivity of the earth’s surface. There is an active scientific literature devoted to these technological fixes. What we need is effective ATMOSPHERIC PROCESSING!

I will tell you something else. At a personal level I have never seen people who consume more energy than international environmentalists. I am not kidding. Their “carbon foot-prints” are atrocious. Believe me, I know whereof I speak; If the average American consumes far more energy than say the average developing world person, in the same way the average DC or London-based environmentalist consumes far more energy than the average american because they are always flying to some high-level conference in South Africa or wherever.

Although I believe that organizations such as my own are less than effective on this front, I am nevertheless personally very concerned and will tell you what I am doing to avert the coming disaster: I INVEST IN GENERAL ELECTRIC. GE is one of the greenest companies in the world and is currently the world’s leading manufacturer of Wind Turbines! GE is leading the way to america’s green future. So whenever one of my bosses boards a flight to another confab I just “offset” the damage he is doing by buying a few more shares of General Electric. It helps me with the guilt.

Beatus ille qui procul negotiis … paterna rura bobus exercet suis, solutus omni fenore….. Horace

[pertinazzio]

I work for a major national environmental outfit in Washington (we have a very good brand as they say) but I doubt that there is any policy measure or scheme that we are advocating that is likely to help with this lamentable situation. Emissions capping, international protocols, legislative initiatives, etc are all doomed to failure because we are too far along in the process. We should be concentrating our efforts on not how to stop global warming but how to deal with it. One possible solution would be to equip the earth with umbrellas (no joke!) or to otherwise change the reflectivity of the earth’s surface. There is an active scientific literature devoted to these technological fixes. What we need is effective ATMOSPHERIC PROCESSING!

I will tell you something else. At a personal level I have never seen people who consume more energy than international environmentalists. I am not kidding. Their “carbon foot-prints” are atrocious. Believe me, I know whereof I speak; If the average American consumes far more energy than say the average developing world person, in the same way the average DC or London-based environmentalist consumes far more energy than the average american because they are always flying to some high-level conference in South Africa or wherever.

Although I believe that organizations such as my own are less than effective on this front, I am nevertheless personally very concerned and will tell you what I am doing to avert the coming disaster: I INVEST IN GENERAL ELECTRIC. GE is one of the greenest companies in the world and is currently the world’s leading manufacturer of Wind Turbines! GE is leading the way to america’s green future. So whenever one of my bosses boards a flight to another confab I just “offset” the damage he is doing by buying a few more shares of General Electric. It helps me with the guilt.

Beatus ille qui procul negotiis … paterna rura bobus exercet suis, solutus omni fenore….. Horace

[Anonymous]

Now that $100 / barrel oil is becoming real the alternate energy systems become more viable from costs perspective. I felt the fastest way to converse, cut down pollution, car pool, go green etc., is having $4 – $5 / gallon gas. If we pull out of the middle east (which will really never happen) oil would go through the roof and costs to the consumers / businesses would crush use of all petrol based products cleaning up the planet. Far quicker but more painful then a carbon tax IMHO.

Did read an article in damn interesting web site (http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=228) if everybody painted their roof white the reflected sunlight would drop the temp. 1 degree cel. Hmm….

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Now that $100 / barrel oil is becoming real the alternate energy systems become more viable from costs perspective. I felt the fastest way to converse, cut down pollution, car pool, go green etc., is having $4 – $5 / gallon gas. If we pull out of the middle east (which will really never happen) oil would go through the roof and costs to the consumers / businesses would crush use of all petrol based products cleaning up the planet. Far quicker but more painful then a carbon tax IMHO.

Did read an article in damn interesting web site (http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=228) if everybody painted their roof white the reflected sunlight would drop the temp. 1 degree cel. Hmm….

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Now that $100 / barrel oil is becoming real the alternate energy systems become more viable from costs perspective. I felt the fastest way to converse, cut down pollution, car pool, go green etc., is having $4 – $5 / gallon gas. If we pull out of the middle east (which will really never happen) oil would go through the roof and costs to the consumers / businesses would crush use of all petrol based products cleaning up the planet. Far quicker but more painful then a carbon tax IMHO.

Did read an article in damn interesting web site (http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=228) if everybody painted their roof white the reflected sunlight would drop the temp. 1 degree cel. Hmm….

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Now that $100 / barrel oil is becoming real the alternate energy systems become more viable from costs perspective. I felt the fastest way to converse, cut down pollution, car pool, go green etc., is having $4 – $5 / gallon gas. If we pull out of the middle east (which will really never happen) oil would go through the roof and costs to the consumers / businesses would crush use of all petrol based products cleaning up the planet. Far quicker but more painful then a carbon tax IMHO.

Did read an article in damn interesting web site (http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=228) if everybody painted their roof white the reflected sunlight would drop the temp. 1 degree cel. Hmm….

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Any comments on Al Gore riding the wave of popularity? Since he sits on the carbon offset board will he profit down the road from big companies paying for carbon offsets for pollution?

Just wondering…

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Any comments on Al Gore riding the wave of popularity? Since he sits on the carbon offset board will he profit down the road from big companies paying for carbon offsets for pollution?

Just wondering…

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Any comments on Al Gore riding the wave of popularity? Since he sits on the carbon offset board will he profit down the road from big companies paying for carbon offsets for pollution?

Just wondering…

mglsharkson

[Anonymous]

Any comments on Al Gore riding the wave of popularity? Since he sits on the carbon offset board will he profit down the road from big companies paying for carbon offsets for pollution?

Just wondering…

mglsharkson

[SHILOH]

When you read the science on both sides, it’s uncertain whether global warming is a man-caused trend, because apparently the cold/warm cycles have been going on for a long time.
That does not negate the fact that we should try to reduce pollution and poisons in our environment and do all we can to preserve a clean Earth. But most people I know are too lazy or unconcerned to even do basic recycling.

And many people tend to have a reason why they don’t recycle because…overall they say, recycling is not cost effective or rather, it’s “expensive.”

In my town the garbage collection includes free reclying collection, but on my typical residential street, I would say only 3 people put out reclycing. And another example, there is a company in Boston that will pick up laser cartridges from offices, for example – free –and yet, people still throw the old ones in the garbage. Or batteries, or whatever.

A lot people like to talk about a “Green Earth” but their actions
show they could care less.

[SHILOH]

When you read the science on both sides, it’s uncertain whether global warming is a man-caused trend, because apparently the cold/warm cycles have been going on for a long time.
That does not negate the fact that we should try to reduce pollution and poisons in our environment and do all we can to preserve a clean Earth. But most people I know are too lazy or unconcerned to even do basic recycling.

And many people tend to have a reason why they don’t recycle because…overall they say, recycling is not cost effective or rather, it’s “expensive.”

In my town the garbage collection includes free reclying collection, but on my typical residential street, I would say only 3 people put out reclycing. And another example, there is a company in Boston that will pick up laser cartridges from offices, for example – free –and yet, people still throw the old ones in the garbage. Or batteries, or whatever.

A lot people like to talk about a “Green Earth” but their actions
show they could care less.

[SHILOH]

When you read the science on both sides, it’s uncertain whether global warming is a man-caused trend, because apparently the cold/warm cycles have been going on for a long time.
That does not negate the fact that we should try to reduce pollution and poisons in our environment and do all we can to preserve a clean Earth. But most people I know are too lazy or unconcerned to even do basic recycling.

And many people tend to have a reason why they don’t recycle because…overall they say, recycling is not cost effective or rather, it’s “expensive.”

In my town the garbage collection includes free reclying collection, but on my typical residential street, I would say only 3 people put out reclycing. And another example, there is a company in Boston that will pick up laser cartridges from offices, for example – free –and yet, people still throw the old ones in the garbage. Or batteries, or whatever.

A lot people like to talk about a “Green Earth” but their actions
show they could care less.

[SHILOH]

When you read the science on both sides, it’s uncertain whether global warming is a man-caused trend, because apparently the cold/warm cycles have been going on for a long time.
That does not negate the fact that we should try to reduce pollution and poisons in our environment and do all we can to preserve a clean Earth. But most people I know are too lazy or unconcerned to even do basic recycling.

And many people tend to have a reason why they don’t recycle because…overall they say, recycling is not cost effective or rather, it’s “expensive.”

In my town the garbage collection includes free reclying collection, but on my typical residential street, I would say only 3 people put out reclycing. And another example, there is a company in Boston that will pick up laser cartridges from offices, for example – free –and yet, people still throw the old ones in the garbage. Or batteries, or whatever.

A lot people like to talk about a “Green Earth” but their actions
show they could care less.

[nostradamus]

We are here to destroy the planet and there is nothing to stop it. All other animals eat plants, poop out the nutrients which adds to the soil and is recycled once again into plants. When the animal dies it too is recycled in the soil. This is nature’s recycling. Humans eat everything, then chemically neutralize our poop and bury it or flush it into the ocean along with the chemicals. When we die we cremate our bodies. Thus we consume everything and return nothing to this earth. Accept it and quit the guilt trippin.

The whole green movement is a way of introducing the next wave of consumer products: “green” products. Soon all the labels in stores will have to have “green” on them so people will buy. Keeps the marketing machines churning. Hybrid cars, green products, and solar houses are it, to answer a frequent poster’s search for “the next big thing”. Gore and others are helping to ramp up this campaign.

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