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May 30, 2020 at 9:42 AM #22900May 30, 2020 at 11:52 AM #817645svelteParticipant
Well lets not lump all police together.
I have a few that are close personal friends of mine and I can tell you that, at least my police friends, are very intelligent, warm, and funny people. And I can assure you they are not racists in the least. Far from it.
Are there bad apples? Sure. But the majority that I’ve personally met are great folks.
The one common trait I do see is that they like to step in if they see an injustice…I’m more picky and let sleeping dogs lie until it gets to be too bad to ignore. They step in way earlier than I do. Which spooks me sometimes but they are probably way more used to it and know they can have their uniformed buddies on the scene in just a couple of minutes. Me, I can’t say that.
May 30, 2020 at 12:04 PM #817646scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=svelte]Well lets not lump all police together.
I have a few that are close personal friends of mine and I can tell you that, at least my police friends, are very intelligent, warm, and funny people. And I can assure you they are not racists in the least. Far from it.
Are there bad apples? Sure. But the majority that I’ve personally met are great folks.
The one common trait I do see is that they like to step in if they see an injustice…I’m more picky and let sleeping dogs lie until it gets to be too bad to ignore. They step in way earlier than I do. Which spooks me sometimes but they are probably way more used to it and know they can have their uniformed buddies on the scene in just a couple of minutes. Me, I can’t say that.[/quote]
I wish I could take credit for this, but as Chris Rock said….
I know it’s hard being a cop … But some jobs can’t have bad apples. Some jobs, everybody gotta be good. Like, pilots. American Airlines can’t be like, ‘You know, most of our pilots like to land, we just got a few bad apples that like to crash into mountains.’May 30, 2020 at 12:05 PM #817647scaredyclassicParticipantHere was 4 that thought it was cool to choke a guy out on film.
Is that a bad apple or a systemic thing.
May 30, 2020 at 12:05 PM #817648scaredyclassicParticipantDont get me wrong. I call 911 when im in trouble. But if i had bern dealt a different hand i prolly would avoid the cops
May 30, 2020 at 2:29 PM #817649svelteParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]Dont get me wrong. I call 911 when im in trouble. But if i had bern dealt a different hand i prolly would avoid the cops[/quote]
Can’t say that I seek them out either, best to stay clear cuz I just never know if i’m doing something on the edge of illegal – why tempt fate.
It’s just that the lyric “f the police” implies that they are all bad – and they are not. Just a few bad apples. Just as bad as saying all lawyers are ambulance chasers.
Do they need to be weeded out? Absolutely! no question about that.
They do exist just as bad pilots exist. Such as the one who tried to land in Pakistan with his landing gear up, killing 97 of 99 on board this month.
May 31, 2020 at 11:27 AM #817679scaredyclassicParticipantIf u have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops, and the 1000 good cops dont turn in the bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops .
Which is prety much the set up. You cant snitch and make it as a cop. No way.
Its pretty weedy. No one can keep thrir job and call a weed a weed.
Is the current system essentially fair and good, is our policing system basicalky just cept for a few bad apples?
Where you stand depends on your zip code
May 31, 2020 at 12:21 PM #817681ltsdddParticipantAttitude, empathy and compassion make a world of difference.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-michigan-protest-police-trnd/index.html
May 31, 2020 at 12:27 PM #817682HobieParticipantDon’t piss into the wind and don’t do stuff that attracts cops. duh
May 31, 2020 at 12:33 PM #817684outtamojoParticipantsleeping in one’s own home shouldn’t get one killed, but it does.
Storming a gov building carrying arms should attract cops yes, but nobody got killed from that group.May 31, 2020 at 12:39 PM #817685scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=Hobie]Don’t piss into the wind and don’t do stuff that attracts cops. duh[/quote]
Being black definitely arouses suspicion. A fully masked society would at least cut down on bad stops.
Best course of action is to be born not black to family of good means. Duh.
May 31, 2020 at 12:43 PM #817687ltsdddParticipant[quote=Hobie]Don’t piss into the wind and don’t do stuff that attracts cops. duh[/quote]
Yeah. Like while sitting at a Starbucks shop while black. duh
May 31, 2020 at 12:46 PM #817688scaredyclassicParticipantAnyone who still insists on being black in this society is just bring hardheaded and stubborn. They judt need to get with the program and be white.
May 31, 2020 at 3:12 PM #817697svelteParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]If u have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops, and the 1000 good cops dont turn in the bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops .
Which is prety much the set up. You cant snitch and make it as a cop. No way.
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There are channels in the PD for officers to report other officers. You and I are not privy to how often that channel is used for privacy reasons.
But I can imagine that the police union is a lot like the teachers union, meaning it is difficult to get a union member removed.
If a police dept has a bad apple, I don’t we can assume it is because his fellow officers didn’t report the bad apple. As one of my friend officers said recently, nobody hates a bad officer more than a good officer. Nobody.
May 31, 2020 at 3:51 PM #817698outtamojoParticipantBe that as it may or however things are done or under what conditions the time for excuses is OVER.
If there are as many good cops as you say then it would be an easy matter to allow into their next contract more oversight and easier removal of bad cops.
Blaming Unions is always the route of the lazy and incompetent.Most unions operate on the basis of a contract that must be ratified by majority vote of its members so if oversight and ways to remove bad cops dont make it into the contract that would indicate that cops not interested in policing their own are the majority.
So a good cop that say he/ she hates bad cops but not doing anything or allowing the change that would remove the bad cop is just the ultimate in hypocrisy.
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