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January 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM #505530January 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM #504652
scaredyclassic
Participantmoney talks. people are hard to hear.
January 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM #504799scaredyclassic
Participantmoney talks. people are hard to hear.
January 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM #505204scaredyclassic
Participantmoney talks. people are hard to hear.
January 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM #505298scaredyclassic
Participantmoney talks. people are hard to hear.
January 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM #505550scaredyclassic
Participantmoney talks. people are hard to hear.
January 22, 2010 at 8:54 PM #504667paramount
Participant[quote=KSMountain]
In a sense, that really *does* limit speech – the speech of the corporation’s officers and even by extension its shareholders.[/quote]
No, it really *does/did* not limit their speech – companies could form PAC’s which had almost no restrictions in that regard.
Leading up to this decsion corporate interests excercised free speech with a bull horn and real people a wisper – now these real people have also been struck with laryngitis.
Corporations may be comprised of, but they are NOT a person (that seems pretty obvious to me).
January 22, 2010 at 8:54 PM #504814paramount
Participant[quote=KSMountain]
In a sense, that really *does* limit speech – the speech of the corporation’s officers and even by extension its shareholders.[/quote]
No, it really *does/did* not limit their speech – companies could form PAC’s which had almost no restrictions in that regard.
Leading up to this decsion corporate interests excercised free speech with a bull horn and real people a wisper – now these real people have also been struck with laryngitis.
Corporations may be comprised of, but they are NOT a person (that seems pretty obvious to me).
January 22, 2010 at 8:54 PM #505219paramount
Participant[quote=KSMountain]
In a sense, that really *does* limit speech – the speech of the corporation’s officers and even by extension its shareholders.[/quote]
No, it really *does/did* not limit their speech – companies could form PAC’s which had almost no restrictions in that regard.
Leading up to this decsion corporate interests excercised free speech with a bull horn and real people a wisper – now these real people have also been struck with laryngitis.
Corporations may be comprised of, but they are NOT a person (that seems pretty obvious to me).
January 22, 2010 at 8:54 PM #505313paramount
Participant[quote=KSMountain]
In a sense, that really *does* limit speech – the speech of the corporation’s officers and even by extension its shareholders.[/quote]
No, it really *does/did* not limit their speech – companies could form PAC’s which had almost no restrictions in that regard.
Leading up to this decsion corporate interests excercised free speech with a bull horn and real people a wisper – now these real people have also been struck with laryngitis.
Corporations may be comprised of, but they are NOT a person (that seems pretty obvious to me).
January 22, 2010 at 8:54 PM #505565paramount
Participant[quote=KSMountain]
In a sense, that really *does* limit speech – the speech of the corporation’s officers and even by extension its shareholders.[/quote]
No, it really *does/did* not limit their speech – companies could form PAC’s which had almost no restrictions in that regard.
Leading up to this decsion corporate interests excercised free speech with a bull horn and real people a wisper – now these real people have also been struck with laryngitis.
Corporations may be comprised of, but they are NOT a person (that seems pretty obvious to me).
January 22, 2010 at 9:10 PM #504698bsrsharma
ParticipantPurely as a business strategy, I think spending money on election campaigns has a lower return on investment compared to alternatives. For example, lobbying. Financing campaigns produces uncertain results whereas “buying” the politician after the election produces predictable outcomes. Look at the enormous success of lobbyists compared to voters in U.S. at every level of government.
Another issue many have raised is whether foreigners/foreign government have freedom of speech in U.S. I believe they have; but it would be stupid foreigner to push the commonsense limits. Again alternative modes are more effective. See the success of American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Similarly, China achieves its objectives through U.S. Chamber of Commerce rather than engaging in “free speech”.
January 22, 2010 at 9:10 PM #504843bsrsharma
ParticipantPurely as a business strategy, I think spending money on election campaigns has a lower return on investment compared to alternatives. For example, lobbying. Financing campaigns produces uncertain results whereas “buying” the politician after the election produces predictable outcomes. Look at the enormous success of lobbyists compared to voters in U.S. at every level of government.
Another issue many have raised is whether foreigners/foreign government have freedom of speech in U.S. I believe they have; but it would be stupid foreigner to push the commonsense limits. Again alternative modes are more effective. See the success of American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Similarly, China achieves its objectives through U.S. Chamber of Commerce rather than engaging in “free speech”.
January 22, 2010 at 9:10 PM #505249bsrsharma
ParticipantPurely as a business strategy, I think spending money on election campaigns has a lower return on investment compared to alternatives. For example, lobbying. Financing campaigns produces uncertain results whereas “buying” the politician after the election produces predictable outcomes. Look at the enormous success of lobbyists compared to voters in U.S. at every level of government.
Another issue many have raised is whether foreigners/foreign government have freedom of speech in U.S. I believe they have; but it would be stupid foreigner to push the commonsense limits. Again alternative modes are more effective. See the success of American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Similarly, China achieves its objectives through U.S. Chamber of Commerce rather than engaging in “free speech”.
January 22, 2010 at 9:10 PM #505343bsrsharma
ParticipantPurely as a business strategy, I think spending money on election campaigns has a lower return on investment compared to alternatives. For example, lobbying. Financing campaigns produces uncertain results whereas “buying” the politician after the election produces predictable outcomes. Look at the enormous success of lobbyists compared to voters in U.S. at every level of government.
Another issue many have raised is whether foreigners/foreign government have freedom of speech in U.S. I believe they have; but it would be stupid foreigner to push the commonsense limits. Again alternative modes are more effective. See the success of American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Similarly, China achieves its objectives through U.S. Chamber of Commerce rather than engaging in “free speech”.
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