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January 9, 2021 at 9:37 AM #23026January 9, 2021 at 10:54 AM #820376CoronitaParticipant
Doubt it in SD.
January 9, 2021 at 6:58 PM #820377svelteParticipanttaking a quick look, the mortgage delinquency rate nationwide is not as bad as I expected to see:
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/12212020_black_knight_first_look.asp
“While delinquencies are still elevated, especially those over 90 days, Black Knight’s “first look” at November data notes a sixth consecutive monthly decline. The national delinquency rate dropped from 6.44 percent in October to 6.33 percent, a -1.75 percent change. It remains 79.20 percent higher year-over-year. The rate has fallen 1.5 percentage points from its peak of 7.8 percent in May but remains a full three percentage points (+93 percent) above pre-pandemic levels”
While not good that it went up this year, those numbers don’t strike me as dire.
“The foreclosure moratoriums put in place at the beginning of the pandemic have kept many negative loan performance metrics at low levels. The foreclosure inventory, loans in process of foreclosure, is down by 2,000 loans since October and 72,000 since the previous November.”
Given that house values are still very high, if people get behind they can always sell.
January 10, 2021 at 5:41 PM #820380plutoParticipant[quote=svelte]taking a quick look, the mortgage delinquency rate nationwide is not as bad as I expected to see:
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/12212020_black_knight_first_look.asp
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The statistic isn’t as high because it excludes those in forbearance, i.e. people also not paying their mortgage.
Also, on a side note is Rich ok? Haven’t seen anything posted in the forum for a while.
January 10, 2021 at 6:00 PM #820381Rich ToscanoKeymasterHowdy – All is well, thanks… just been super busy. I hope to have the Dec 20 stats up this week.
January 10, 2021 at 9:16 PM #820382sdrealtorParticipant[quote=barnaby33]Link to tv segment. I just saw this and am curious about the thoughts of the peanut gallery. Is this the beginning of a tsunami, or a large nothing burger? I realize if you are a landlord with non-paying tenants it doesn’t feel like a nothing burger, but statistically will this have a real effect?
Josh[/quote]Speaking for SD which is what we deal with here a nothing burger with substandard in n out fries
January 11, 2021 at 8:50 AM #820383svelteParticipant[quote=pluto][quote=svelte]taking a quick look, the mortgage delinquency rate nationwide is not as bad as I expected to see:
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/12212020_black_knight_first_look.asp
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The statistic isn’t as high because it excludes those in forbearance, i.e. people also not paying their mortgage.
[/quote]I don’t see that as a big issue either as those folks will be able to make up those payments over time:
“Forbearance doesn’t mean your payments are forgiven or erased. You are still required to repay any missed or reduced payments in the future, which in most cases may be repaid over time. At the end of the forbearance, your servicer will contact you about how the missed payments will be repaid. There may be different programs available.”
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/coronavirus/mortgage-and-housing-assistance/mortgage-relief/
And even if the increased monthly payments are too high, housing values are still high so they can still sell and get out OK in many cases.
January 12, 2021 at 9:24 PM #820387plutoParticipantGreat to know your ok Rich!
If, the people cant pay now and want/need forbearance what means they can pay when forbearance ends? There will be pressure to sell the home. I think it’s likely that will increase inventory, and favor buyers after the forbearance “dust” settles. Then motivated home owners will start flinging comp bombs.
I think the financial pause is just that a pause. Home prices are where they at because there are fewer homes for sale, and some people have to move. Home prices can only be supported by the buyer pool.
San Diego’s buyer pool is affluent and usually financially educated. When they tour a home and see a model match for 30k less, they first ask what’s wrong with the other home? When the answer is nothing, it becomes a will of motivation then a line on where a short sale will be.
January 13, 2021 at 12:25 AM #820388CoronitaParticipant[quote=pluto]
If, the people cant pay now and want/need forbearance what means they can pay when forbearance ends? There will be pressure to sell the home. I think it’s likely that will increase inventory, and favor buyers after the forbearance “dust” settles. Then motivated home owners will start flinging comp bombs.
I think the financial pause is just that a pause. Home prices are where they at because there are fewer homes for sale, and some people have to move. Home prices can only be supported by the buyer pool.
San Diego’s buyer pool is affluent and usually financially educated. When they tour a home and see a model match for 30k less, they first ask what’s wrong with the other home? When the answer is nothing, it becomes a will of motivation then a line on where a short sale will be.[/quote]
I’m assuming we can exclude most tech and biotech workers, since they seem to be doing well if not better and are an outlier.
Beyond that, what are the numbers looking like? Has anyone noticed if we’ve seen any pickup of migration from people North of us to down here, now that those workers are most likely working remotely indefinitely? Can’t say for sure, but I thought I’ve seen a few folks recently relocate down here from Bay Area because they think home prices here are cheap(er) and now they can work remotely from here indefinitely…
January 13, 2021 at 10:33 AM #820389sdrealtorParticipantAnecdotally speaking with fellow agents up my way there is a definite and substantial uptick in arrivals from Bay Area/LA Area underway.
Im gonna update the NC coastal monitor now. I lost interest in Urban Metro Suburban monitor as it was so uneventful. I may add one for my friends in Mira Mesa:)
January 19, 2021 at 2:08 PM #820442barnaby33ParticipantI alone have two Google re-pats. They left to take jobs with Google, but have since returned while keeping their jobs.
JoshJanuary 19, 2021 at 3:58 PM #820443EscoguyParticipantAny thoughts in North County inland are appreciated: 92127/92078/92027
Asking prices are ticking up steadily 30-50K over just a few months ago is not unusual for 4 BR SFH. What was 800-820K in Oct is now asking 850K.
Some larger inland are hitting the 1.2M mark as well if there is a pool and 3500+ sf.
I sometimes wonder if I’m dreaming all this.
Oh, well, sold some bitcoin to get part of the downpayment ready for the next one.
It’s almost not worth mentioning.Did I hear about a 15K tax credit for first time buyers being discussed?
I can see pros and cons on that one.
January 19, 2021 at 10:47 PM #820444CoronitaParticipantAh yes…looks like it’s raining in San Diego real estate….
Dude just got pardoned too!!! LOL.
January 19, 2021 at 11:00 PM #820446sdrealtorParticipantFree Wayne!
January 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM #820448svelteParticipantInto each life a Lil Wayne must fall.
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