Deadly New Mexican Flu Virus Sparks Global Pandemic Fear

[partypup]

[quote=nostradamus]I think you misunderstood me completely. My point was, IMO you act almost prophetic but then change your prophecies retroactively to match the facts as they arrive.

At least you didn’t come back with any ostrich head-in-the-sand analogies about how I’m not thinking because I’m not as schizophrenic as some. I would have bet on this response.

Anyhow, take care of that sweet baby! Don’t make him too nervous in life or too sheltered.[/quote]

Thanks for the good advice, Nost. I’ll certainly do my best to make sure he’s not too nervous or too sheltered 🙂

As for prophecies, I just want to clarify something: my commentary to my original post was pretty brief. But it seemed to spark debate about whether this outbreak will, in fact, exacerbate the economic downturn. I think we can all agree that it’s still too soon to know whether my comment was “prophetic” or not (and bear in mind, I said “I hope[d] that this doesn’t turn out to be something that threatens an already dying U.S. economy” – no prediction whatsoever was made). But the responses I got seemed to pretty much assume that it was premature to even raise the issue, and that the chances of economic fallout were about as likely as the sun exploding.

I actually don’t recall making any prophecies in that post. I remember using the words “would”, “may” and “hope” – hardly words of prophecy. My intent – and clearly some on this board did not welcome it – was simply to advise people to take extra precautions unless they didn’t mind getting sick with a new flu strain. It just seemed like common sense to me at the time, since so little was known about this very new virus when I made my original post. Are there any facts that have surfaced that contradict what I wrote in my original post? Has the incidence of infections in the U.S. dropped dramatically? Are we back down to Alert Level 2? What prophecies did I change retroactively in my second post? To my knowledge, the only thing I addressed in my second post was the media frenzy being created – which, incidentally, was NOT occurring when I first made my post, and in fact, I didn’t even address the media response in that post.

I’m not trying to be flippant. But I do take your comments seriously, and I just want to be cognizant of anything I’m writing that might be misleading anyone.

I consider boards, and this one in particular, to be an especially helpful and effective way of sharing information before it becomes common knowledge. But I do worry that the desire to share information among us may be chilled if everything we share is held to some prophetic standard: “I thought you said x was going to happen, and it didn’t, so who cares what you have to say?” I think it’s more productive, especially in circumstances like these, to pull together and share as much information, analysis and thoughts as possible, and focus less on finger-pointing. This scenario – as is the case with most scenarios – is fluid and constantly evolving. I will admit right now that I don’t know WHAT the hell is going to happen with this virus, okay? I’m not Nostradamus – you are 😉 But I still have every right to share my opinion and voice my concerns, as you and all others on this board do. And as more information comes to light, we all reserve the right for further comment. I’ve never said that this virus is going to kill every living person, and I made no prediction as to the number of infected we would eventually see. I am merely intaking information, processing it and offering my thoughts. Do you see my point? I’m offering an olive branch of understanding here 🙂

Also, as to the post that you responded to, I once again ask for your response to the open question presented, which was actually the point of the post: will you be taking a swine vaccine, if offered? Will you have any reservations in doing so?

[quote=nostradamus]You’d make an excellent lawyer-cum-politician.[/quote]

LOL. Speaking as someone who swims in the darkest waters with the former, I can honestly say that the only thing more dangerous than a lawyer is a lawyer who makes a career in politics. I knew this country was seriously screwed when it became apparent that the only three (3) viable Democratic presidential candidates were all lawyers – cum politicians.

[jpinpb]

partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)

[jpinpb]

partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)

[jpinpb]

partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)

[jpinpb]

partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)

[jpinpb]

partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)

[nostradamus]

I used prophetic as well. I meant, I felt as if pp felt she was telling us something we didn’t already know. When I saw the OP I was already saturated with spam-like news of this flu and had looked into it enough to see that it would probably never affect me unless people started freaking out about it. That’s how witch trials and bad legislation come about.

There are technically “new” flus all the time (but one and only flu flu, fat lazy union). I’ve never had a flu shot and probably never will because I think that today’s vaccine only applies to yesterday’s flu mutation. So no, I wouldn’t get the vaccine for this swine version and I agree that sometimes you need to weigh the benefits of entering our medical system vs. the potential health risks.

For example, I had a mole removed and it was stitched up so badly by the doctor that it formed a small abscess which became infected. Now there’s a scar, much uglier and bigger than the mole was. If I hadn’t had that mole removed (as a preventative strike against melanoma) I wouldn’t have gotten that infection. I don’t think I would have gotten melanoma either. I regret the decision to remove it. When I saw what was billed to my insurance, I clearly understood why the doctor wanted to do it.

[nostradamus]

I used prophetic as well. I meant, I felt as if pp felt she was telling us something we didn’t already know. When I saw the OP I was already saturated with spam-like news of this flu and had looked into it enough to see that it would probably never affect me unless people started freaking out about it. That’s how witch trials and bad legislation come about.

There are technically “new” flus all the time (but one and only flu flu, fat lazy union). I’ve never had a flu shot and probably never will because I think that today’s vaccine only applies to yesterday’s flu mutation. So no, I wouldn’t get the vaccine for this swine version and I agree that sometimes you need to weigh the benefits of entering our medical system vs. the potential health risks.

For example, I had a mole removed and it was stitched up so badly by the doctor that it formed a small abscess which became infected. Now there’s a scar, much uglier and bigger than the mole was. If I hadn’t had that mole removed (as a preventative strike against melanoma) I wouldn’t have gotten that infection. I don’t think I would have gotten melanoma either. I regret the decision to remove it. When I saw what was billed to my insurance, I clearly understood why the doctor wanted to do it.

[nostradamus]

I used prophetic as well. I meant, I felt as if pp felt she was telling us something we didn’t already know. When I saw the OP I was already saturated with spam-like news of this flu and had looked into it enough to see that it would probably never affect me unless people started freaking out about it. That’s how witch trials and bad legislation come about.

There are technically “new” flus all the time (but one and only flu flu, fat lazy union). I’ve never had a flu shot and probably never will because I think that today’s vaccine only applies to yesterday’s flu mutation. So no, I wouldn’t get the vaccine for this swine version and I agree that sometimes you need to weigh the benefits of entering our medical system vs. the potential health risks.

For example, I had a mole removed and it was stitched up so badly by the doctor that it formed a small abscess which became infected. Now there’s a scar, much uglier and bigger than the mole was. If I hadn’t had that mole removed (as a preventative strike against melanoma) I wouldn’t have gotten that infection. I don’t think I would have gotten melanoma either. I regret the decision to remove it. When I saw what was billed to my insurance, I clearly understood why the doctor wanted to do it.

[nostradamus]

I used prophetic as well. I meant, I felt as if pp felt she was telling us something we didn’t already know. When I saw the OP I was already saturated with spam-like news of this flu and had looked into it enough to see that it would probably never affect me unless people started freaking out about it. That’s how witch trials and bad legislation come about.

There are technically “new” flus all the time (but one and only flu flu, fat lazy union). I’ve never had a flu shot and probably never will because I think that today’s vaccine only applies to yesterday’s flu mutation. So no, I wouldn’t get the vaccine for this swine version and I agree that sometimes you need to weigh the benefits of entering our medical system vs. the potential health risks.

For example, I had a mole removed and it was stitched up so badly by the doctor that it formed a small abscess which became infected. Now there’s a scar, much uglier and bigger than the mole was. If I hadn’t had that mole removed (as a preventative strike against melanoma) I wouldn’t have gotten that infection. I don’t think I would have gotten melanoma either. I regret the decision to remove it. When I saw what was billed to my insurance, I clearly understood why the doctor wanted to do it.

[nostradamus]

I used prophetic as well. I meant, I felt as if pp felt she was telling us something we didn’t already know. When I saw the OP I was already saturated with spam-like news of this flu and had looked into it enough to see that it would probably never affect me unless people started freaking out about it. That’s how witch trials and bad legislation come about.

There are technically “new” flus all the time (but one and only flu flu, fat lazy union). I’ve never had a flu shot and probably never will because I think that today’s vaccine only applies to yesterday’s flu mutation. So no, I wouldn’t get the vaccine for this swine version and I agree that sometimes you need to weigh the benefits of entering our medical system vs. the potential health risks.

For example, I had a mole removed and it was stitched up so badly by the doctor that it formed a small abscess which became infected. Now there’s a scar, much uglier and bigger than the mole was. If I hadn’t had that mole removed (as a preventative strike against melanoma) I wouldn’t have gotten that infection. I don’t think I would have gotten melanoma either. I regret the decision to remove it. When I saw what was billed to my insurance, I clearly understood why the doctor wanted to do it.

[Aecetia]

Also kind of Biblical in a Stephen King kind of way.

Fort Detrick disease samples may be missing
Justin M. Palk
Frederick News Post
April 26, 2009

Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick.

As first reported in today’s edition of The Frederick News-Post by columnist Katherine Heerbrandt, the investigators are from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division unit at Fort Meade.

Chad Jones, spokesman for Fort Meade, said CID is investigating the possibility of missing virus samples from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

He said the only other detail he could provide is that the investigation is ongoing.

Fort Detrick does not have its own CID office, Jones said, which is why Fort Meade’s CID was brought in.

Jones said he could not comment on when the investigation started.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=865782

[Aecetia]

Also kind of Biblical in a Stephen King kind of way.

Fort Detrick disease samples may be missing
Justin M. Palk
Frederick News Post
April 26, 2009

Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick.

As first reported in today’s edition of The Frederick News-Post by columnist Katherine Heerbrandt, the investigators are from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division unit at Fort Meade.

Chad Jones, spokesman for Fort Meade, said CID is investigating the possibility of missing virus samples from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

He said the only other detail he could provide is that the investigation is ongoing.

Fort Detrick does not have its own CID office, Jones said, which is why Fort Meade’s CID was brought in.

Jones said he could not comment on when the investigation started.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=865782

[Aecetia]

Also kind of Biblical in a Stephen King kind of way.

Fort Detrick disease samples may be missing
Justin M. Palk
Frederick News Post
April 26, 2009

Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick.

As first reported in today’s edition of The Frederick News-Post by columnist Katherine Heerbrandt, the investigators are from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division unit at Fort Meade.

Chad Jones, spokesman for Fort Meade, said CID is investigating the possibility of missing virus samples from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

He said the only other detail he could provide is that the investigation is ongoing.

Fort Detrick does not have its own CID office, Jones said, which is why Fort Meade’s CID was brought in.

Jones said he could not comment on when the investigation started.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=865782

[Aecetia]

Also kind of Biblical in a Stephen King kind of way.

Fort Detrick disease samples may be missing
Justin M. Palk
Frederick News Post
April 26, 2009

Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick.

As first reported in today’s edition of The Frederick News-Post by columnist Katherine Heerbrandt, the investigators are from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division unit at Fort Meade.

Chad Jones, spokesman for Fort Meade, said CID is investigating the possibility of missing virus samples from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

He said the only other detail he could provide is that the investigation is ongoing.

Fort Detrick does not have its own CID office, Jones said, which is why Fort Meade’s CID was brought in.

Jones said he could not comment on when the investigation started.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=865782

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