Crazy La Jolla priced house

[pk92108]

I was just amazed at a “new” listing in la Jolla recently…The house is listed at $2,450,000 but was sold in 2006 for $1,800,000….When I questioned the agent about it, she had an attitude that was straight out of the real estate bull market frenzy from a few years back….She said they were holding firm on the price because the 1.8 mill sale price was “below market” and the new owner put in “many, many upgrades”..

Hopefully the link will work, but the upgrades are a hideous collection of brightly colored walls and gaudy furniture..Also the square footage is wrong at 3927 when the property tax roll say 3387..It is otherwise a nice house on a good corner lot on La Jolla Mesa Dr.

Am I wrong?? Why are they trying to pull this off in this market…The agent was very obnoxious too…I laid out my arguments and she just turned me off….I told her 1.8 mil was what the market said it is worth, so it is worth that..

the link:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076080279-809_Lamplight_Dr_La_Jolla_CA_92037

[bsrsharma]

I think this may be attractive to a foreigner with strong currency. Multimillion $ properties don’t have to follow normal RE market, especially if they are bought for cash with a currency that may make $2.5M appear like $1.2M, after translation. That may also explain why the agent didn’t take you seriously. { I am assuming you are not a foreigner with $2.5M cash }

[bsrsharma]

I think this may be attractive to a foreigner with strong currency. Multimillion $ properties don’t have to follow normal RE market, especially if they are bought for cash with a currency that may make $2.5M appear like $1.2M, after translation. That may also explain why the agent didn’t take you seriously. { I am assuming you are not a foreigner with $2.5M cash }

[raptorduck]

She sounds typical of the selling agents I have run into in RSF. I have heard that exact thing more than a few times.

[raptorduck]

She sounds typical of the selling agents I have run into in RSF. I have heard that exact thing more than a few times.

[XBoxBoy]

From watching the La Jolla market, I can tell you that there is plenty of craziness and only a couple of people pricing their houses realistically. And btw, that house on lamplight you refer to was on the market for months before they bought it at $1.8m. With a bunch of open houses and lots of marketing, so I can guarantee you they didn’t get it at “below market”. More likely the seller popped a champagne bottle when it finally sold.

Here’s another house that is similar. Bought in 2005 for 1,950,000 and now wants to sell for $2.3m to $2.6m. (Hah! Lots of luck!)

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076081009-5582_Calle_Miramar_La_Jolla_CA_92037

Maybe these guys should talk to the owner of this property:

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076045532-5348_Chelsea_La_Jolla_CA_92037

They bought for $2.9m in 2006 and have been trying to sell at $2.65m (a $250k loss not counting fees and costs) with no takers for months. So, I don’t think you can say the La Jolla market is going up.

[XBoxBoy]

From watching the La Jolla market, I can tell you that there is plenty of craziness and only a couple of people pricing their houses realistically. And btw, that house on lamplight you refer to was on the market for months before they bought it at $1.8m. With a bunch of open houses and lots of marketing, so I can guarantee you they didn’t get it at “below market”. More likely the seller popped a champagne bottle when it finally sold.

Here’s another house that is similar. Bought in 2005 for 1,950,000 and now wants to sell for $2.3m to $2.6m. (Hah! Lots of luck!)

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076081009-5582_Calle_Miramar_La_Jolla_CA_92037

Maybe these guys should talk to the owner of this property:

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076045532-5348_Chelsea_La_Jolla_CA_92037

They bought for $2.9m in 2006 and have been trying to sell at $2.65m (a $250k loss not counting fees and costs) with no takers for months. So, I don’t think you can say the La Jolla market is going up.

[patientlywaiting]

I heard that foreigners don’t like to buy houses in America because of the property taxes plus we are too isolated from most every place in the world. Dubai and China don’t have property taxes. Plus getting a visa to America and getting finger-printed at the airport every time is a big hassle.

[patientlywaiting]

I heard that foreigners don’t like to buy houses in America because of the property taxes plus we are too isolated from most every place in the world. Dubai and China don’t have property taxes. Plus getting a visa to America and getting finger-printed at the airport every time is a big hassle.

[cantab]

This house, 809 Lamplight in La Jolla, sold for $730,000 in 2002. I remember the house from then. It was one of the creepiest in all of La Jolla, decorated like a low-rent, musty version of the Playboy mansion. Made you feel like a sex offender had been holed up in it.

I did think at the time that it was a good opportunity to be remodeled at a profit, but it would have been a big project and even in 2002 prices seemed high. The house has some unchangeable drawbacks: little useable yard (they have improved this), on a noisy main street, and too low down on La Jolla Mesa to have a view.

It has been completely rebuilt, and nicely. I don’t know how much was done before and after the November 2006 sale at $1,800,000.

[cantab]

This house, 809 Lamplight in La Jolla, sold for $730,000 in 2002. I remember the house from then. It was one of the creepiest in all of La Jolla, decorated like a low-rent, musty version of the Playboy mansion. Made you feel like a sex offender had been holed up in it.

I did think at the time that it was a good opportunity to be remodeled at a profit, but it would have been a big project and even in 2002 prices seemed high. The house has some unchangeable drawbacks: little useable yard (they have improved this), on a noisy main street, and too low down on La Jolla Mesa to have a view.

It has been completely rebuilt, and nicely. I don’t know how much was done before and after the November 2006 sale at $1,800,000.

[Eugene]

If I were a rich foreigner looking for a place to retire, La Jolla would not be near the top of my list.

In Brazil, that kind of money buys you a 10,000 sq ft beachfront mansion, or a huge ranch with orange and banana plantations, and you’ll save enough cash to hire a bunch of servants for life to take care of your property. (Their minimum wage is $200 a month and many people don’t make even that)

Visa problem is an even bigger one. You can’t just buy a house and move here. The whole immigration system is set up to make sure people DON’T do that. With the exception of Canadians, almost any foreigner who intends to stay in the country for more than 90 days needs to get a visa. There are two kinds of visas – immigration and non-immigration. To get an immigration visa, you need to have relatives here, find a good job in the States (H1B process), marry a U.S. citizen, or invest $1,000,000 into the U.S. economy. (Buying a house does not qualify.) Non-immigration visas are given to tourists and U.S. embassy is free to deny a tourist visa to anyone. In fact, owning a house in the States is an indication of immigration intentions and that alone is grounds for automatic denial of a tourist visa.

Would you want to spend 2+ million dollars on a house if you knew that you had no legal right to stay in the country and its government could prevent you from coming back if you left?

[Eugene]

If I were a rich foreigner looking for a place to retire, La Jolla would not be near the top of my list.

In Brazil, that kind of money buys you a 10,000 sq ft beachfront mansion, or a huge ranch with orange and banana plantations, and you’ll save enough cash to hire a bunch of servants for life to take care of your property. (Their minimum wage is $200 a month and many people don’t make even that)

Visa problem is an even bigger one. You can’t just buy a house and move here. The whole immigration system is set up to make sure people DON’T do that. With the exception of Canadians, almost any foreigner who intends to stay in the country for more than 90 days needs to get a visa. There are two kinds of visas – immigration and non-immigration. To get an immigration visa, you need to have relatives here, find a good job in the States (H1B process), marry a U.S. citizen, or invest $1,000,000 into the U.S. economy. (Buying a house does not qualify.) Non-immigration visas are given to tourists and U.S. embassy is free to deny a tourist visa to anyone. In fact, owning a house in the States is an indication of immigration intentions and that alone is grounds for automatic denial of a tourist visa.

Would you want to spend 2+ million dollars on a house if you knew that you had no legal right to stay in the country and its government could prevent you from coming back if you left?

[bsrsharma]

For a super rich Brazilian businessman, La Jolla can be a nice summer home when it is winter in the south (and a good winter home for holidays when it is hot and humid in the south). Plus, you don’t have to go around with a phalanx of bodyguards to prevent getting shot down or kidnapped for which Brazil is well known.

Visa restrictions are only to keep poor people out. For a million $, you can buy a green card (officially called ‘Investor Visa’) directly from US government. Another way would be the lottery system (“Diversity Visa”). I have never heard of a millionaire being refused a visa (unless he is some sort of political troublemaker or criminal).

[bsrsharma]

For a super rich Brazilian businessman, La Jolla can be a nice summer home when it is winter in the south (and a good winter home for holidays when it is hot and humid in the south). Plus, you don’t have to go around with a phalanx of bodyguards to prevent getting shot down or kidnapped for which Brazil is well known.

Visa restrictions are only to keep poor people out. For a million $, you can buy a green card (officially called ‘Investor Visa’) directly from US government. Another way would be the lottery system (“Diversity Visa”). I have never heard of a millionaire being refused a visa (unless he is some sort of political troublemaker or criminal).

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