construction quality?

[svtechie]

I’m shopping for a place to buy after renting for a couple of years. I work in SV (Sorrento Mesa, actually) and I’m interested in places reasonably close to work that are in budget: UC, Clairemont, CM, etc.

My question: what areas have well-built houses? I’m looking for solid structure, good plumbing, no shortcuts, the stuff that makes for a hassle-free residence or rental.

There was a thread a while back that talked about construction quality in various places but it seemed focused on “stay away from these places”. Where are the good ones? Thanks!

[ocrenter]

[quote=svtechie]

My question: what areas have well-built houses? I’m looking for solid structure, good plumbing, no shortcuts, the stuff that makes for a hassle-free residence or rental.

![/quote]

Chula Vista!

[an]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=svtechie]

My question: what areas have well-built houses? I’m looking for solid structure, good plumbing, no shortcuts, the stuff that makes for a hassle-free residence or rental.

![/quote]

Chula Vista![/quote]
Also, everything that were built before 1960 and is not a tract home.

[Coronita]

…Definitely do not look in mira mesa and carmel valley. Just check the public records for widespread construction defects….

(There AN, one less potential MM and CV buyer we need worry about in a bidding war).,..

[an]

[quote=flu]…Definitely do not look in mira mesa and carmel valley. Just check the public records for widespread construction defects….

(There AN, one less potential MM and CV buyer we need worry about in a bidding war).,..[/quote]
Totally agree. Stay away from these two far flung areas. They’re nothing but trouble and are full of nothing but TRACT homes.

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]…Definitely do not look in mira mesa and carmel valley. Just check the public records for widespread construction defects….

(There AN, one less potential MM and CV buyer we need worry about in a bidding war).,..[/quote]
Totally agree. Stay away from these two far flung areas. They’re nothing but trouble and are full of nothing but TRACT homes.[/quote]

is it true that homes in MM have no walls? I heard the kitchen, bathrooms, bedrooms, living and dining rooms are all completely open to each other.

what about the beachside community of Santee. would it be an attractive place to purchase a rental given its close proximity to LJ?

[an]

[quote=ocrenter]is it true that homes in MM have no walls? I heard the kitchen, bathrooms, bedrooms, living and dining rooms are all completely open to each other.

what about the beachside community of Santee. would it be an attractive place to purchase a rental given its close proximity to LJ?[/quote]
Walls are overrated. Who needs them.

[an]

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[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=ocrenter]is it true that homes in MM have no walls? I heard the kitchen, bathrooms, bedrooms, living and dining rooms are all completely open to each other.

what about the beachside community of Santee. would it be an attractive place to purchase a rental given its close proximity to LJ?[/quote]
Walls are overrated. Who needs them.[/quote]

The walls are there, you just can’t see them. They are virtual walls…

But the good news is if you don’t have walls, you have less plumbing issues….Because you know, PVC pipes are bad and can leak. And since most MM builders run pvc pipes instead of copper, and since PVC is pronged to leaking more than copper, obviously, the more walls you have, the more pvc pipes are inside the walls that can leak.

So, if you have fewer walls, you’ll have fewer pvc piping that is inside the walls, and hence few pipes can leak, and hence fewer plumbing problems. I would recommend a good house has as few walls as possible. Because imagne if a house has the bare minimum number of walls, there is absolutely no way a plumber can hide the pipes inside the walls. And hence the pipes would have to be just laid out in the open…And then when things leak, you can see it right way, and it can be repaired very easily. You don’t need to hire anyone to fix a drywall or repaint a cutup wall after a leak is repaired. And in this case, with PVC pipes, you can repair the leak yourself, because it’s easy to cut a pvc pipe and glue it back together. The materials are pretty cheap. PVC glue costs about two dollars and fifty five cents at home depot, and the current san diego sales tax rate is only seven point seven five percent. So it’s not going to be that much more…

So having fewer walls actually makes your plumbing more reliable.

[ocrenter]

[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=ocrenter]is it true that homes in MM have no walls? I heard the kitchen, bathrooms, bedrooms, living and dining rooms are all completely open to each other.

what about the beachside community of Santee. would it be an attractive place to purchase a rental given its close proximity to LJ?[/quote]
Walls are overrated. Who needs them.[/quote]

The walls are there, you just can’t see them. They are virtual walls…

But the good news is if you don’t have walls, you have less plumbing issues….Because you know, PVC pipes are bad and can leak. And since most MM builders run pvc pipes instead of copper, and since PVC is pronged to leaking more than copper, obviously, the more walls you have, the more pvc pipes are inside the walls that can leak.

So, if you have fewer walls, you’ll have fewer pvc piping that is inside the walls, and hence few pipes can leak, and hence fewer plumbing problems. I would recommend a good house has as few walls as possible. Because imagne if a house has the bare minimum number of walls, there is absolutely no way a plumber can hide the pipes inside the walls. And hence the pipes would have to be just laid out in the open…And then when things leak, you can see it right way, and it can be repaired very easily. You don’t need to hire anyone to fix a drywall or repaint a cutup wall after a leak is repaired. And in this case, with PVC pipes, you can repair the leak yourself, because it’s easy to cut a pvc pipe and glue it back together. The materials are pretty cheap. PVC glue costs about two dollars and fifty five cents at home depot, and the current san diego sales tax rate is only seven point seven five percent. So it’s not going to be that much more…

So having fewer walls actually makes your plumbing more reliable.[/quote]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!

Now I’m thoroughly confused!

I thought I was suppose to AVOID THE FAR FLUNG AREA OF MM.

Now you are telling me the lack of walls actually make these homes DESIRABLE.

I think me and my capital investor will have to simply go door to door, especially to homes not for sale, to see for ourselves. maybe the microfilms in the basement of the county assessor’s office will provide the clues I need.

Did you know in exchange for the access to the microfilms all I need to do is help remove the county assessor’s acoustic ceilings?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]…I think me and my capital investor will have to simply go door to door, especially to homes not for sale, to see for ourselves. maybe the microfilms in the basement of the county assessor’s office will provide the clues I need.

Did you know in exchange for the access to the microfilms all I need to do is help remove the county assessor’s acoustic ceilings?[/quote]

Uhhh, flu, I think you may have the wrong address. Besides taking your “bulk-order” of plat maps, the “assessor’s office” cannot help you and your “investor friend” with determining value or construction quality of properties or tracts.

Because of “Prop 13,” CA county assessors are not set up that way. In addition, their “basement” (with its stored bankers boxes and microfiche was built in 1937 (before the advent of “accoustical ceiling”). Instead, from its “basement” you will see (and hear) (color-coordinated) hot water pipes from above :=]

http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/cob/cacs/index.html

Why don’t you take your own “self-guided” tour? Informational kiosks are set up in the middle of the first floor next to and across from the brass elevators and staffed by volunteer “retired” humans who KNOW the ropes 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=flu]…I think me and my capital investor will have to simply go door to door, especially to homes not for sale, to see for ourselves. maybe the microfilms in the basement of the county assessor’s office will provide the clues I need.

Did you know in exchange for the access to the microfilms all I need to do is help remove the county assessor’s acoustic ceilings?[/quote]

Uhhh, flu, I think you may have the wrong address. Besides taking your “bulk-order” of plat maps, the “assessor’s office” cannot help you and your “investor friend” with determining value or construction quality of properties or tracts.

Because of “Prop 13,” CA county assessors are not set up that way. In addition, their “basement” (with its stored bankers boxes and microfiche was built in 1937 (before the advent of “accoustical ceiling”). Instead, from its “basement” you will see (and hear) (color-coordinated) hot water pipes from above :=]

http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/cob/cacs/index.html

Why don’t you take your own “self-guided” tour? Informational kiosks are set up in the middle of the first floor next to and across from the brass elevators and staffed by volunteer “retired” humans who KNOW the ropes :)[/quote]

I didn’t write that you know 🙂

[an]

[quote=flu][quote=bearishgurl][quote=flu]…I think me and my capital investor will have to simply go door to door, especially to homes not for sale, to see for ourselves. maybe the microfilms in the basement of the county assessor’s office will provide the clues I need.

Did you know in exchange for the access to the microfilms all I need to do is help remove the county assessor’s acoustic ceilings?[/quote]

Uhhh, flu, I think you may have the wrong address. Besides taking your “bulk-order” of plat maps, the “assessor’s office” cannot help you and your “investor friend” with determining value or construction quality of properties or tracts.

Because of “Prop 13,” CA county assessors are not set up that way. In addition, their “basement” (with its stored bankers boxes and microfiche was built in 1937 (before the advent of “accoustical ceiling”). Instead, from its “basement” you will see (and hear) (color-coordinated) hot water pipes from above :=]

http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/cob/cacs/index.html

Why don’t you take your own “self-guided” tour? Informational kiosks are set up in the middle of the first floor next to and across from the brass elevators and staffed by volunteer “retired” humans who KNOW the ropes :)[/quote]

I didn’t write that you know :)[/quote]
You all look the same.

[UCGal]

So is svtechie an alter-ego of one of the regular posters?

Usually piggs are nicer…

I’ve been laughing at a lot of this thread… but if svtechie is a real person… perhaps we should be nicer.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=bearishgurl][quote=flu]…I think me and my capital investor will have to simply go door to door, especially to homes not for sale, to see for ourselves. maybe the microfilms in the basement of the county assessor’s office will provide the clues I need.

Did you know in exchange for the access to the microfilms all I need to do is help remove the county assessor’s acoustic ceilings?[/quote]

Uhhh, flu, I think you may have the wrong address. Besides taking your “bulk-order” of plat maps, the “assessor’s office” cannot help you and your “investor friend” with determining value or construction quality of properties or tracts.

Because of “Prop 13,” CA county assessors are not set up that way. In addition, their “basement” (with its stored bankers boxes and microfiche was built in 1937 (before the advent of “accoustical ceiling”). Instead, from its “basement” you will see (and hear) (color-coordinated) hot water pipes from above :=]

http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/cob/cacs/index.html

Why don’t you take your own “self-guided” tour? Informational kiosks are set up in the middle of the first floor next to and across from the brass elevators and staffed by volunteer “retired” humans who KNOW the ropes :)[/quote]

I didn’t write that you know :)[/quote]
You all look the same.[/quote]

ROTFLMAO You guys have me in stitches. Make that one thousand, two hundred and seventy nine stitches

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