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February 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM #666325February 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM #665198
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Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.[/quote]
Tribalism is alive and well in this country, and in most of western Europe…AND the reason for the resistance/opposition to “multiculturalism” is because the existing cultures believe that the “invading” cultures are taking a disproportionate share of the existing resources.
Americans are horrific hoarders, BTW; it’s why we go to war. We want access to, and control of, the world’s resources. We want it all, and we don’t hesitate to head into battle if we believe that another “group” is about to get between us and “our” resources, here or abroad.
February 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM #665259Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.[/quote]
Tribalism is alive and well in this country, and in most of western Europe…AND the reason for the resistance/opposition to “multiculturalism” is because the existing cultures believe that the “invading” cultures are taking a disproportionate share of the existing resources.
Americans are horrific hoarders, BTW; it’s why we go to war. We want access to, and control of, the world’s resources. We want it all, and we don’t hesitate to head into battle if we believe that another “group” is about to get between us and “our” resources, here or abroad.
February 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM #665861Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.[/quote]
Tribalism is alive and well in this country, and in most of western Europe…AND the reason for the resistance/opposition to “multiculturalism” is because the existing cultures believe that the “invading” cultures are taking a disproportionate share of the existing resources.
Americans are horrific hoarders, BTW; it’s why we go to war. We want access to, and control of, the world’s resources. We want it all, and we don’t hesitate to head into battle if we believe that another “group” is about to get between us and “our” resources, here or abroad.
February 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM #665997Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.[/quote]
Tribalism is alive and well in this country, and in most of western Europe…AND the reason for the resistance/opposition to “multiculturalism” is because the existing cultures believe that the “invading” cultures are taking a disproportionate share of the existing resources.
Americans are horrific hoarders, BTW; it’s why we go to war. We want access to, and control of, the world’s resources. We want it all, and we don’t hesitate to head into battle if we believe that another “group” is about to get between us and “our” resources, here or abroad.
February 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM #666331Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.[/quote]
Tribalism is alive and well in this country, and in most of western Europe…AND the reason for the resistance/opposition to “multiculturalism” is because the existing cultures believe that the “invading” cultures are taking a disproportionate share of the existing resources.
Americans are horrific hoarders, BTW; it’s why we go to war. We want access to, and control of, the world’s resources. We want it all, and we don’t hesitate to head into battle if we believe that another “group” is about to get between us and “our” resources, here or abroad.
February 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM #665205Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1][quote=Rustico]I agree that it is hard to fit multiculturalism in a nationalistic framework. Might be better to criticize nationalism.[/quote]
Yes, I agree.
The nation state is a modern phenomenon. 100 years ago Europe was a lot more multicultural and borders were more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Brian: Uh, let’s see, 100 years ago would be 1911, right? And World War I started when? Oh, yeah, 1914.
Dude. Europe 100 years ago was experiencing some of the most fervent nationalism going and was on the cusp of one of the most destructive wars in world history. Europe was NOT a lot more multi-cultural at all, and borders were sure as hell NOT more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Well, they might have been changing, but it was due to wars over resources and territory, not “multicultural love.”
February 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM #665268Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1][quote=Rustico]I agree that it is hard to fit multiculturalism in a nationalistic framework. Might be better to criticize nationalism.[/quote]
Yes, I agree.
The nation state is a modern phenomenon. 100 years ago Europe was a lot more multicultural and borders were more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Brian: Uh, let’s see, 100 years ago would be 1911, right? And World War I started when? Oh, yeah, 1914.
Dude. Europe 100 years ago was experiencing some of the most fervent nationalism going and was on the cusp of one of the most destructive wars in world history. Europe was NOT a lot more multi-cultural at all, and borders were sure as hell NOT more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Well, they might have been changing, but it was due to wars over resources and territory, not “multicultural love.”
February 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM #665868Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1][quote=Rustico]I agree that it is hard to fit multiculturalism in a nationalistic framework. Might be better to criticize nationalism.[/quote]
Yes, I agree.
The nation state is a modern phenomenon. 100 years ago Europe was a lot more multicultural and borders were more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Brian: Uh, let’s see, 100 years ago would be 1911, right? And World War I started when? Oh, yeah, 1914.
Dude. Europe 100 years ago was experiencing some of the most fervent nationalism going and was on the cusp of one of the most destructive wars in world history. Europe was NOT a lot more multi-cultural at all, and borders were sure as hell NOT more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Well, they might have been changing, but it was due to wars over resources and territory, not “multicultural love.”
February 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM #666003Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1][quote=Rustico]I agree that it is hard to fit multiculturalism in a nationalistic framework. Might be better to criticize nationalism.[/quote]
Yes, I agree.
The nation state is a modern phenomenon. 100 years ago Europe was a lot more multicultural and borders were more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Brian: Uh, let’s see, 100 years ago would be 1911, right? And World War I started when? Oh, yeah, 1914.
Dude. Europe 100 years ago was experiencing some of the most fervent nationalism going and was on the cusp of one of the most destructive wars in world history. Europe was NOT a lot more multi-cultural at all, and borders were sure as hell NOT more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Well, they might have been changing, but it was due to wars over resources and territory, not “multicultural love.”
February 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM #666338Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1][quote=Rustico]I agree that it is hard to fit multiculturalism in a nationalistic framework. Might be better to criticize nationalism.[/quote]
Yes, I agree.
The nation state is a modern phenomenon. 100 years ago Europe was a lot more multicultural and borders were more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Brian: Uh, let’s see, 100 years ago would be 1911, right? And World War I started when? Oh, yeah, 1914.
Dude. Europe 100 years ago was experiencing some of the most fervent nationalism going and was on the cusp of one of the most destructive wars in world history. Europe was NOT a lot more multi-cultural at all, and borders were sure as hell NOT more flexible and changing.[/quote]
Well, they might have been changing, but it was due to wars over resources and territory, not “multicultural love.”
February 11, 2011 at 11:30 PM #665210Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
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I used the term “herd behavior,” because I think it’s appropriate, as it goes hand-in-hand with tribalism. However, some people are uncomfortable with “herding instincts” being applied to humans, so “tribalism” it is. 😉
February 11, 2011 at 11:30 PM #665273Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
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I used the term “herd behavior,” because I think it’s appropriate, as it goes hand-in-hand with tribalism. However, some people are uncomfortable with “herding instincts” being applied to humans, so “tribalism” it is. 😉
February 11, 2011 at 11:30 PM #665873Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
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I used the term “herd behavior,” because I think it’s appropriate, as it goes hand-in-hand with tribalism. However, some people are uncomfortable with “herding instincts” being applied to humans, so “tribalism” it is. 😉
February 11, 2011 at 11:30 PM #666008Participant[quote=SK in CV]Ok on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
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I used the term “herd behavior,” because I think it’s appropriate, as it goes hand-in-hand with tribalism. However, some people are uncomfortable with “herding instincts” being applied to humans, so “tribalism” it is. 😉
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