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[NotCranky]

[quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico][quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico][quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Ever heard of the word “chattel”,Djshakes?
http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_bibl.htm%5B/quote%5D

Are you honestly going to sit and tell me Muslim women have more rights than Christian woman?

By you pointing out a couple bible versus as your source is like arguing a Yugo is better than a Mercedes because the license plate bulb lasts longer.[/quote]
The other posters have managed to get this thread to a higher level. I hope you will join them.[/quote]
Please do explain what your point was then by posting your link?[/quote]
By reminding you of the history of women as “Chattel” in the Judeo-Christian tradition, specifically connecting it to century after century of enforcement of the inferior status of women in Christendom,I thought that you might begin to challenge some of your many attribution biases.”Christianity” did not save women.[/quote]

I don’t care about your comparisons of the past. Last I checked we lived in the present. My earlier comment was about Sharia law. My question to you was whether or not you thought women were afforded more rights under Sharia law or Christianity. You responded with a snide comment…because you know the answer negates your argument.[/quote]
It is just that it is hard to draw a comparision of women “under” Christian law. That has been remedied to a large degree for now. Where there are vestigial signs of that it doesn’t look so good.

[Djshakes]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Pri: We’re about to go off into the weeds here, and I want to avoid that.
[/quote]

Weeds? It’s the crux of our debate!

Simple question:

Where’s the Judaism/Christianity in our law?

There’s way too much historical ignorance in today’s political dialog, and the “our Nation was founded upon Christian values” notion is one of the most common, and most damaging offenses.[/quote]

No, that isn’t the crux of out debate. It is whether multiculturalism is a failure. I should know, I started the thread.

Beside, how is the notion that our nation was founded on Christian values SOOOOOO offensive and damaging? Because it offends you personally? Trust me, I am sure you could find something that is more offensive and damaging to our nation such as true threats to our freedom. The foundation of this nation is our freedom. Therefore, threats against this foundation are the most offensive. I have never heard of Christian values threatening this. The only thing I normally hear are people crying about freedom from religion masked as freedom of religion. Because I don’t believe in it other people shouldn’t either as opposed to respect like I mentioned in a previous post.

Enough about religion…let’s get back to the topic. This is turning into a perfect example of loss aversion. Thanks.

[Djshakes]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Pri: We’re about to go off into the weeds here, and I want to avoid that.
[/quote]

Weeds? It’s the crux of our debate!

Simple question:

Where’s the Judaism/Christianity in our law?

There’s way too much historical ignorance in today’s political dialog, and the “our Nation was founded upon Christian values” notion is one of the most common, and most damaging offenses.[/quote]

No, that isn’t the crux of out debate. It is whether multiculturalism is a failure. I should know, I started the thread.

Beside, how is the notion that our nation was founded on Christian values SOOOOOO offensive and damaging? Because it offends you personally? Trust me, I am sure you could find something that is more offensive and damaging to our nation such as true threats to our freedom. The foundation of this nation is our freedom. Therefore, threats against this foundation are the most offensive. I have never heard of Christian values threatening this. The only thing I normally hear are people crying about freedom from religion masked as freedom of religion. Because I don’t believe in it other people shouldn’t either as opposed to respect like I mentioned in a previous post.

Enough about religion…let’s get back to the topic. This is turning into a perfect example of loss aversion. Thanks.

[Djshakes]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Pri: We’re about to go off into the weeds here, and I want to avoid that.
[/quote]

Weeds? It’s the crux of our debate!

Simple question:

Where’s the Judaism/Christianity in our law?

There’s way too much historical ignorance in today’s political dialog, and the “our Nation was founded upon Christian values” notion is one of the most common, and most damaging offenses.[/quote]

No, that isn’t the crux of out debate. It is whether multiculturalism is a failure. I should know, I started the thread.

Beside, how is the notion that our nation was founded on Christian values SOOOOOO offensive and damaging? Because it offends you personally? Trust me, I am sure you could find something that is more offensive and damaging to our nation such as true threats to our freedom. The foundation of this nation is our freedom. Therefore, threats against this foundation are the most offensive. I have never heard of Christian values threatening this. The only thing I normally hear are people crying about freedom from religion masked as freedom of religion. Because I don’t believe in it other people shouldn’t either as opposed to respect like I mentioned in a previous post.

Enough about religion…let’s get back to the topic. This is turning into a perfect example of loss aversion. Thanks.

[Djshakes]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Pri: We’re about to go off into the weeds here, and I want to avoid that.
[/quote]

Weeds? It’s the crux of our debate!

Simple question:

Where’s the Judaism/Christianity in our law?

There’s way too much historical ignorance in today’s political dialog, and the “our Nation was founded upon Christian values” notion is one of the most common, and most damaging offenses.[/quote]

No, that isn’t the crux of out debate. It is whether multiculturalism is a failure. I should know, I started the thread.

Beside, how is the notion that our nation was founded on Christian values SOOOOOO offensive and damaging? Because it offends you personally? Trust me, I am sure you could find something that is more offensive and damaging to our nation such as true threats to our freedom. The foundation of this nation is our freedom. Therefore, threats against this foundation are the most offensive. I have never heard of Christian values threatening this. The only thing I normally hear are people crying about freedom from religion masked as freedom of religion. Because I don’t believe in it other people shouldn’t either as opposed to respect like I mentioned in a previous post.

Enough about religion…let’s get back to the topic. This is turning into a perfect example of loss aversion. Thanks.

[Djshakes]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Pri: We’re about to go off into the weeds here, and I want to avoid that.
[/quote]

Weeds? It’s the crux of our debate!

Simple question:

Where’s the Judaism/Christianity in our law?

There’s way too much historical ignorance in today’s political dialog, and the “our Nation was founded upon Christian values” notion is one of the most common, and most damaging offenses.[/quote]

No, that isn’t the crux of out debate. It is whether multiculturalism is a failure. I should know, I started the thread.

Beside, how is the notion that our nation was founded on Christian values SOOOOOO offensive and damaging? Because it offends you personally? Trust me, I am sure you could find something that is more offensive and damaging to our nation such as true threats to our freedom. The foundation of this nation is our freedom. Therefore, threats against this foundation are the most offensive. I have never heard of Christian values threatening this. The only thing I normally hear are people crying about freedom from religion masked as freedom of religion. Because I don’t believe in it other people shouldn’t either as opposed to respect like I mentioned in a previous post.

Enough about religion…let’s get back to the topic. This is turning into a perfect example of loss aversion. Thanks.

[briansd1]

Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.

[briansd1]

Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.

[briansd1]

Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.

[briansd1]

Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.

[briansd1]

Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.

[Djshakes]

[quote=briansd1]Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.[/quote]

What’s “bad” or reality? Bad is a subjective term. Of course most liberals are going to think anything but full blown multiculturalism is “bad” despite what the reality is when multiculturalism is practiced. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

[Djshakes]

[quote=briansd1]Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.[/quote]

What’s “bad” or reality? Bad is a subjective term. Of course most liberals are going to think anything but full blown multiculturalism is “bad” despite what the reality is when multiculturalism is practiced. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

[Djshakes]

[quote=briansd1]Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.[/quote]

What’s “bad” or reality? Bad is a subjective term. Of course most liberals are going to think anything but full blown multiculturalism is “bad” despite what the reality is when multiculturalism is practiced. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

[Djshakes]

[quote=briansd1]Humans everywhere like to look at what’s bad in society and blame the other cultures. Those periods of blame were always the regression points in history.[/quote]

What’s “bad” or reality? Bad is a subjective term. Of course most liberals are going to think anything but full blown multiculturalism is “bad” despite what the reality is when multiculturalism is practiced. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

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