Collective Jaw Dropping

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=sobmaz]”What was Billy Tauzin, a former legislator and now lobbyist for the largest pharma group in the country, doing having a back room, undisclosed meeting with the President? Back up a few years and ask what would have happened if ExxonMobil had a back room, undisclosed meeting with Dubya over a new energy program?”

Ummm, they did. Okay, it was with the VP, but just the same.[/quote]

Sob: And there you go, jumping up and down and yelling, “The Republicans did it, too!”.

They are BOTH wrong. Don’t you see that?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=ocrenter]Allan, absolutely. I want diligence and deliberation. but that’s not what I see the GOP doing. just seem like there’s a lot of fear-mongering to kill the bill.[/quote]

OCR: No disagreement from me whatsoever. As I opined earlier, the GOP is blowing a golden opportunity here, and not in a good way.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=ocrenter]Allan, absolutely. I want diligence and deliberation. but that’s not what I see the GOP doing. just seem like there’s a lot of fear-mongering to kill the bill.[/quote]

OCR: No disagreement from me whatsoever. As I opined earlier, the GOP is blowing a golden opportunity here, and not in a good way.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=ocrenter]Allan, absolutely. I want diligence and deliberation. but that’s not what I see the GOP doing. just seem like there’s a lot of fear-mongering to kill the bill.[/quote]

OCR: No disagreement from me whatsoever. As I opined earlier, the GOP is blowing a golden opportunity here, and not in a good way.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=ocrenter]Allan, absolutely. I want diligence and deliberation. but that’s not what I see the GOP doing. just seem like there’s a lot of fear-mongering to kill the bill.[/quote]

OCR: No disagreement from me whatsoever. As I opined earlier, the GOP is blowing a golden opportunity here, and not in a good way.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=ocrenter]Allan, absolutely. I want diligence and deliberation. but that’s not what I see the GOP doing. just seem like there’s a lot of fear-mongering to kill the bill.[/quote]

OCR: No disagreement from me whatsoever. As I opined earlier, the GOP is blowing a golden opportunity here, and not in a good way.

[Butleroftwo]

From what I have seen, this was slapped together then rushed to be voted on without input from other Dems and the GOP. The matter of who has even read it came up if you remember. They have the majority and the President has said a couple of times that “We won”. In other words get out of the way. The proposed bill is dated July14th.

Then they went on vacation and to have meetings with their constituents. At these town halls they said stuff like; We have to get this done quick, No public funds will pay for abortions, You will always be able to keep the plan that you have, Cutting $500 billion from Medicare won’t affect you and The plan will save money just to name a few. None of these passed the smell test.

People are skeptical of government. Question authority was a popular bumper sticker. We should all be part of the political process so why does anyone care if there is a debate? This is a passionate issue by definition. If they can’t run a meeting with 200 of their constituents then how can they run health care? Roberts Rules should be standard.

The people could be Libertarians, Green Party, Peace Party, Independent or GOP. They all have the right to participate.

[Butleroftwo]

From what I have seen, this was slapped together then rushed to be voted on without input from other Dems and the GOP. The matter of who has even read it came up if you remember. They have the majority and the President has said a couple of times that “We won”. In other words get out of the way. The proposed bill is dated July14th.

Then they went on vacation and to have meetings with their constituents. At these town halls they said stuff like; We have to get this done quick, No public funds will pay for abortions, You will always be able to keep the plan that you have, Cutting $500 billion from Medicare won’t affect you and The plan will save money just to name a few. None of these passed the smell test.

People are skeptical of government. Question authority was a popular bumper sticker. We should all be part of the political process so why does anyone care if there is a debate? This is a passionate issue by definition. If they can’t run a meeting with 200 of their constituents then how can they run health care? Roberts Rules should be standard.

The people could be Libertarians, Green Party, Peace Party, Independent or GOP. They all have the right to participate.

[Butleroftwo]

From what I have seen, this was slapped together then rushed to be voted on without input from other Dems and the GOP. The matter of who has even read it came up if you remember. They have the majority and the President has said a couple of times that “We won”. In other words get out of the way. The proposed bill is dated July14th.

Then they went on vacation and to have meetings with their constituents. At these town halls they said stuff like; We have to get this done quick, No public funds will pay for abortions, You will always be able to keep the plan that you have, Cutting $500 billion from Medicare won’t affect you and The plan will save money just to name a few. None of these passed the smell test.

People are skeptical of government. Question authority was a popular bumper sticker. We should all be part of the political process so why does anyone care if there is a debate? This is a passionate issue by definition. If they can’t run a meeting with 200 of their constituents then how can they run health care? Roberts Rules should be standard.

The people could be Libertarians, Green Party, Peace Party, Independent or GOP. They all have the right to participate.

[Butleroftwo]

From what I have seen, this was slapped together then rushed to be voted on without input from other Dems and the GOP. The matter of who has even read it came up if you remember. They have the majority and the President has said a couple of times that “We won”. In other words get out of the way. The proposed bill is dated July14th.

Then they went on vacation and to have meetings with their constituents. At these town halls they said stuff like; We have to get this done quick, No public funds will pay for abortions, You will always be able to keep the plan that you have, Cutting $500 billion from Medicare won’t affect you and The plan will save money just to name a few. None of these passed the smell test.

People are skeptical of government. Question authority was a popular bumper sticker. We should all be part of the political process so why does anyone care if there is a debate? This is a passionate issue by definition. If they can’t run a meeting with 200 of their constituents then how can they run health care? Roberts Rules should be standard.

The people could be Libertarians, Green Party, Peace Party, Independent or GOP. They all have the right to participate.

[Butleroftwo]

From what I have seen, this was slapped together then rushed to be voted on without input from other Dems and the GOP. The matter of who has even read it came up if you remember. They have the majority and the President has said a couple of times that “We won”. In other words get out of the way. The proposed bill is dated July14th.

Then they went on vacation and to have meetings with their constituents. At these town halls they said stuff like; We have to get this done quick, No public funds will pay for abortions, You will always be able to keep the plan that you have, Cutting $500 billion from Medicare won’t affect you and The plan will save money just to name a few. None of these passed the smell test.

People are skeptical of government. Question authority was a popular bumper sticker. We should all be part of the political process so why does anyone care if there is a debate? This is a passionate issue by definition. If they can’t run a meeting with 200 of their constituents then how can they run health care? Roberts Rules should be standard.

The people could be Libertarians, Green Party, Peace Party, Independent or GOP. They all have the right to participate.

[4plexowner]

“People are skeptical of government.”

and becoming more so

unfortunately that means it is time for another LIHOP / MIHOP event to rally the sheeple and distract them from a collapsing economy

[4plexowner]

“People are skeptical of government.”

and becoming more so

unfortunately that means it is time for another LIHOP / MIHOP event to rally the sheeple and distract them from a collapsing economy

[4plexowner]

“People are skeptical of government.”

and becoming more so

unfortunately that means it is time for another LIHOP / MIHOP event to rally the sheeple and distract them from a collapsing economy

[4plexowner]

“People are skeptical of government.”

and becoming more so

unfortunately that means it is time for another LIHOP / MIHOP event to rally the sheeple and distract them from a collapsing economy

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