Coffee Party

[briansd1]

Who is Annabel Park?

Does she compare to Dick Armey, Dick Chenney and Sarah Palin?

Here is the NYT article about the Coffee Party.

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I doubt that Joe-the-Plumber type of “real” American know what the original Tea party was all about.

Sure, it stands for Taxed Enough Already but…. other than that… Jay Leno should do an interview in the South.

The more food parties we have, the better….Maybe where’s the beef party… you know… to counteract the tree-hugger vegetarian parties.

Anyway, tea is so pacifist, liberal sounding.. How about bourbon or beer? Do rugged real Americans drink Tea?

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Not defending the Coffee Party because I think it is would have been better as a skit on SNL, but it’s interesting that Jim Jones’ article sites her working for two candidates who won largely thanks to grassroots (Obama, Webb) as evidence of her not being grassroots.

And somehow the fact that she worked for the NYT for 18 months ten years ago is evidence of astroturfing? That’s like saying that your favorite burger is McDonalds because you worked there 10 years ago.

As Brian says, if they’re trying to compare her to Dick Armey and Rick Santelli, their argument is a failure. This looks more to me like Rove 101: Turn your enemy’s strength into their weakness.

[afx114]

Not defending the Coffee Party because I think it is would have been better as a skit on SNL, but it’s interesting that Jim Jones’ article sites her working for two candidates who won largely thanks to grassroots (Obama, Webb) as evidence of her not being grassroots.

And somehow the fact that she worked for the NYT for 18 months ten years ago is evidence of astroturfing? That’s like saying that your favorite burger is McDonalds because you worked there 10 years ago.

As Brian says, if they’re trying to compare her to Dick Armey and Rick Santelli, their argument is a failure. This looks more to me like Rove 101: Turn your enemy’s strength into their weakness.

[afx114]

Not defending the Coffee Party because I think it is would have been better as a skit on SNL, but it’s interesting that Jim Jones’ article sites her working for two candidates who won largely thanks to grassroots (Obama, Webb) as evidence of her not being grassroots.

And somehow the fact that she worked for the NYT for 18 months ten years ago is evidence of astroturfing? That’s like saying that your favorite burger is McDonalds because you worked there 10 years ago.

As Brian says, if they’re trying to compare her to Dick Armey and Rick Santelli, their argument is a failure. This looks more to me like Rove 101: Turn your enemy’s strength into their weakness.

[afx114]

Not defending the Coffee Party because I think it is would have been better as a skit on SNL, but it’s interesting that Jim Jones’ article sites her working for two candidates who won largely thanks to grassroots (Obama, Webb) as evidence of her not being grassroots.

And somehow the fact that she worked for the NYT for 18 months ten years ago is evidence of astroturfing? That’s like saying that your favorite burger is McDonalds because you worked there 10 years ago.

As Brian says, if they’re trying to compare her to Dick Armey and Rick Santelli, their argument is a failure. This looks more to me like Rove 101: Turn your enemy’s strength into their weakness.

[afx114]

Not defending the Coffee Party because I think it is would have been better as a skit on SNL, but it’s interesting that Jim Jones’ article sites her working for two candidates who won largely thanks to grassroots (Obama, Webb) as evidence of her not being grassroots.

And somehow the fact that she worked for the NYT for 18 months ten years ago is evidence of astroturfing? That’s like saying that your favorite burger is McDonalds because you worked there 10 years ago.

As Brian says, if they’re trying to compare her to Dick Armey and Rick Santelli, their argument is a failure. This looks more to me like Rove 101: Turn your enemy’s strength into their weakness.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?

I very much agree about Karl Rove (Republicans), but you have Saul Alinsky (Democrats) on the other side as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?

I very much agree about Karl Rove (Republicans), but you have Saul Alinsky (Democrats) on the other side as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?

I very much agree about Karl Rove (Republicans), but you have Saul Alinsky (Democrats) on the other side as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?

I very much agree about Karl Rove (Republicans), but you have Saul Alinsky (Democrats) on the other side as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?

I very much agree about Karl Rove (Republicans), but you have Saul Alinsky (Democrats) on the other side as well.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?[/quote]

I agree with that.

BUT Democrats generally react to the divide-and-conquer tactics of the Republicans.

Republicans only understand offense and deterrence with strength (after all they are defense hawks).

It would very unwise for the Democrats to unilaterally wave the white flag first. As Allan so aptly put it on the other thread:

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Obama delivered himself to the Republicans with his neck already exposed and they pounced.
[/quote]

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?[/quote]

I agree with that.

BUT Democrats generally react to the divide-and-conquer tactics of the Republicans.

Republicans only understand offense and deterrence with strength (after all they are defense hawks).

It would very unwise for the Democrats to unilaterally wave the white flag first. As Allan so aptly put it on the other thread:

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Obama delivered himself to the Republicans with his neck already exposed and they pounced.
[/quote]

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?[/quote]

I agree with that.

BUT Democrats generally react to the divide-and-conquer tactics of the Republicans.

Republicans only understand offense and deterrence with strength (after all they are defense hawks).

It would very unwise for the Democrats to unilaterally wave the white flag first. As Allan so aptly put it on the other thread:

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Obama delivered himself to the Republicans with his neck already exposed and they pounced.
[/quote]

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Wouldn’t you agree that extremists of both parties are creating the polarization and Balkanization in American politics that we’re seeing today?[/quote]

I agree with that.

BUT Democrats generally react to the divide-and-conquer tactics of the Republicans.

Republicans only understand offense and deterrence with strength (after all they are defense hawks).

It would very unwise for the Democrats to unilaterally wave the white flag first. As Allan so aptly put it on the other thread:

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Obama delivered himself to the Republicans with his neck already exposed and they pounced.
[/quote]

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