Cielo

[cielore]

Thanks for your in depth and insightful commentary. I will post as my due diligence uncovers more issues of interest. Thanks again.

[raptorduck]

I should note that RSF has roughly 50 “communities” that have a particular name, many, if not most, of which are gated and Cielo is in my top 5 among the gated communities, behind only Fairbanks Ranch, Diegueno Hills, the Crosby, and The Bridges overall, though, for my needs/tastes, I think I would pick living in Cielo over The Bridges and perhaps, depending on the home, The Crosby. My second favorite overall gated community, Santaluz, is not in RSF.

Of course I also don’t include those gated communities that are out of my $$ league and thus that they won’t even let me visit, like Tuscan Estates, River Estates, and Roxbury Estates.

[raptorduck]

I should note that RSF has roughly 50 “communities” that have a particular name, many, if not most, of which are gated and Cielo is in my top 5 among the gated communities, behind only Fairbanks Ranch, Diegueno Hills, the Crosby, and The Bridges overall, though, for my needs/tastes, I think I would pick living in Cielo over The Bridges and perhaps, depending on the home, The Crosby. My second favorite overall gated community, Santaluz, is not in RSF.

Of course I also don’t include those gated communities that are out of my $$ league and thus that they won’t even let me visit, like Tuscan Estates, River Estates, and Roxbury Estates.

[raptorduck]

I should note that RSF has roughly 50 “communities” that have a particular name, many, if not most, of which are gated and Cielo is in my top 5 among the gated communities, behind only Fairbanks Ranch, Diegueno Hills, the Crosby, and The Bridges overall, though, for my needs/tastes, I think I would pick living in Cielo over The Bridges and perhaps, depending on the home, The Crosby. My second favorite overall gated community, Santaluz, is not in RSF.

Of course I also don’t include those gated communities that are out of my $$ league and thus that they won’t even let me visit, like Tuscan Estates, River Estates, and Roxbury Estates.

[raptorduck]

I should note that RSF has roughly 50 “communities” that have a particular name, many, if not most, of which are gated and Cielo is in my top 5 among the gated communities, behind only Fairbanks Ranch, Diegueno Hills, the Crosby, and The Bridges overall, though, for my needs/tastes, I think I would pick living in Cielo over The Bridges and perhaps, depending on the home, The Crosby. My second favorite overall gated community, Santaluz, is not in RSF.

Of course I also don’t include those gated communities that are out of my $$ league and thus that they won’t even let me visit, like Tuscan Estates, River Estates, and Roxbury Estates.

[raptorduck]

I should note that RSF has roughly 50 “communities” that have a particular name, many, if not most, of which are gated and Cielo is in my top 5 among the gated communities, behind only Fairbanks Ranch, Diegueno Hills, the Crosby, and The Bridges overall, though, for my needs/tastes, I think I would pick living in Cielo over The Bridges and perhaps, depending on the home, The Crosby. My second favorite overall gated community, Santaluz, is not in RSF.

Of course I also don’t include those gated communities that are out of my $$ league and thus that they won’t even let me visit, like Tuscan Estates, River Estates, and Roxbury Estates.

[privatebanker]

Cielo is a nice development however it is not Rancho Santa Fe. Its truly Rancho Bernardo. The developers were some how able to get the RSF zip code. This occurred at the height of the RE frenzy of course. The lot values will without a doubt drop in value in the coming years.

Be patient… The party is just starting.

[privatebanker]

Cielo is a nice development however it is not Rancho Santa Fe. Its truly Rancho Bernardo. The developers were some how able to get the RSF zip code. This occurred at the height of the RE frenzy of course. The lot values will without a doubt drop in value in the coming years.

Be patient… The party is just starting.

[privatebanker]

Cielo is a nice development however it is not Rancho Santa Fe. Its truly Rancho Bernardo. The developers were some how able to get the RSF zip code. This occurred at the height of the RE frenzy of course. The lot values will without a doubt drop in value in the coming years.

Be patient… The party is just starting.

[privatebanker]

Cielo is a nice development however it is not Rancho Santa Fe. Its truly Rancho Bernardo. The developers were some how able to get the RSF zip code. This occurred at the height of the RE frenzy of course. The lot values will without a doubt drop in value in the coming years.

Be patient… The party is just starting.

[privatebanker]

Cielo is a nice development however it is not Rancho Santa Fe. Its truly Rancho Bernardo. The developers were some how able to get the RSF zip code. This occurred at the height of the RE frenzy of course. The lot values will without a doubt drop in value in the coming years.

Be patient… The party is just starting.

[cielore]

Does anyone have a guess as to the percentage increase in land values over the original selling price? I am told that the initial offering sold out in 36 hrs in 2003. I also understand that the parent company either has or is preparing to release another 50+ homesites on higher terrain above the original development. This cant bode well for existing lot owners. Also, the fact that 5yrs after opening the vast majority of this development remains empty dirt is a definite neg IMHO. Even if I bought a lot at fire sale pricing tomorrow my quality of living and resalevalue have got to be significantly lowered by the empty dirt everywhere. I think you need a 5-10 yr horizon and a lot of patience to consider building here IMHO. Thoughts?

[cielore]

Does anyone have a guess as to the percentage increase in land values over the original selling price? I am told that the initial offering sold out in 36 hrs in 2003. I also understand that the parent company either has or is preparing to release another 50+ homesites on higher terrain above the original development. This cant bode well for existing lot owners. Also, the fact that 5yrs after opening the vast majority of this development remains empty dirt is a definite neg IMHO. Even if I bought a lot at fire sale pricing tomorrow my quality of living and resalevalue have got to be significantly lowered by the empty dirt everywhere. I think you need a 5-10 yr horizon and a lot of patience to consider building here IMHO. Thoughts?

[cielore]

Does anyone have a guess as to the percentage increase in land values over the original selling price? I am told that the initial offering sold out in 36 hrs in 2003. I also understand that the parent company either has or is preparing to release another 50+ homesites on higher terrain above the original development. This cant bode well for existing lot owners. Also, the fact that 5yrs after opening the vast majority of this development remains empty dirt is a definite neg IMHO. Even if I bought a lot at fire sale pricing tomorrow my quality of living and resalevalue have got to be significantly lowered by the empty dirt everywhere. I think you need a 5-10 yr horizon and a lot of patience to consider building here IMHO. Thoughts?

[cielore]

Does anyone have a guess as to the percentage increase in land values over the original selling price? I am told that the initial offering sold out in 36 hrs in 2003. I also understand that the parent company either has or is preparing to release another 50+ homesites on higher terrain above the original development. This cant bode well for existing lot owners. Also, the fact that 5yrs after opening the vast majority of this development remains empty dirt is a definite neg IMHO. Even if I bought a lot at fire sale pricing tomorrow my quality of living and resalevalue have got to be significantly lowered by the empty dirt everywhere. I think you need a 5-10 yr horizon and a lot of patience to consider building here IMHO. Thoughts?

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