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March 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM #12290March 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM #178622
kewp
ParticipantNever happen. The powers that be will not allow it.
It makes much more sense to short sectors of the market that will feel the pain from the collapsing housing bubble the most. This would be the financials, real estate and consumer services.
March 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM #179077kewp
ParticipantNever happen. The powers that be will not allow it.
It makes much more sense to short sectors of the market that will feel the pain from the collapsing housing bubble the most. This would be the financials, real estate and consumer services.
March 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM #178984kewp
ParticipantNever happen. The powers that be will not allow it.
It makes much more sense to short sectors of the market that will feel the pain from the collapsing housing bubble the most. This would be the financials, real estate and consumer services.
March 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM #178991kewp
ParticipantNever happen. The powers that be will not allow it.
It makes much more sense to short sectors of the market that will feel the pain from the collapsing housing bubble the most. This would be the financials, real estate and consumer services.
March 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM #178998kewp
ParticipantNever happen. The powers that be will not allow it.
It makes much more sense to short sectors of the market that will feel the pain from the collapsing housing bubble the most. This would be the financials, real estate and consumer services.
March 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM #178631barnaby33
ParticipantAt this point unless you are already loaded up shorting say XLF isn’t a great idea. I’d say shorting individual financials makes more sense. LEH and C are good candidates. To me C is a short to zero, or at least single digits. The easy money shorting XLF was made last year.
Rather than waiting for a cataclysmic event, short or buy puts into the Fed interest rate induced rallies then cover on the way down.
When the Fed has cut to one percent, thats your pre-cataclysm warning. The next shock should be quite severe.
Josh
March 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM #179086barnaby33
ParticipantAt this point unless you are already loaded up shorting say XLF isn’t a great idea. I’d say shorting individual financials makes more sense. LEH and C are good candidates. To me C is a short to zero, or at least single digits. The easy money shorting XLF was made last year.
Rather than waiting for a cataclysmic event, short or buy puts into the Fed interest rate induced rallies then cover on the way down.
When the Fed has cut to one percent, thats your pre-cataclysm warning. The next shock should be quite severe.
Josh
March 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM #178994barnaby33
ParticipantAt this point unless you are already loaded up shorting say XLF isn’t a great idea. I’d say shorting individual financials makes more sense. LEH and C are good candidates. To me C is a short to zero, or at least single digits. The easy money shorting XLF was made last year.
Rather than waiting for a cataclysmic event, short or buy puts into the Fed interest rate induced rallies then cover on the way down.
When the Fed has cut to one percent, thats your pre-cataclysm warning. The next shock should be quite severe.
Josh
March 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM #179002barnaby33
ParticipantAt this point unless you are already loaded up shorting say XLF isn’t a great idea. I’d say shorting individual financials makes more sense. LEH and C are good candidates. To me C is a short to zero, or at least single digits. The easy money shorting XLF was made last year.
Rather than waiting for a cataclysmic event, short or buy puts into the Fed interest rate induced rallies then cover on the way down.
When the Fed has cut to one percent, thats your pre-cataclysm warning. The next shock should be quite severe.
Josh
March 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM #179009barnaby33
ParticipantAt this point unless you are already loaded up shorting say XLF isn’t a great idea. I’d say shorting individual financials makes more sense. LEH and C are good candidates. To me C is a short to zero, or at least single digits. The easy money shorting XLF was made last year.
Rather than waiting for a cataclysmic event, short or buy puts into the Fed interest rate induced rallies then cover on the way down.
When the Fed has cut to one percent, thats your pre-cataclysm warning. The next shock should be quite severe.
Josh
March 30, 2008 at 11:39 PM #179021hipmatt
ParticipantIts one thing to short the market because you believe that the economic fundamentals are just plain negative or wrong… but its another to hope for a “cataclysmic” event similar to the attack on the twin towers, in order to turn a hefty profit. I don’t think I could invest in a bet where I make tons of money on the hopes that innocent people suffer. With an investment strategy like yours, you would be having a bad day if good things keep happening, and that creates a strange and perverse conflict of interest….
…what would you rather happen, A – another terrorist attack killing thousands, but you make a ton of money, or B – good things happen and you make modest gains because you invested accordingly. … just food for thought
March 30, 2008 at 11:39 PM #179108hipmatt
ParticipantIts one thing to short the market because you believe that the economic fundamentals are just plain negative or wrong… but its another to hope for a “cataclysmic” event similar to the attack on the twin towers, in order to turn a hefty profit. I don’t think I could invest in a bet where I make tons of money on the hopes that innocent people suffer. With an investment strategy like yours, you would be having a bad day if good things keep happening, and that creates a strange and perverse conflict of interest….
…what would you rather happen, A – another terrorist attack killing thousands, but you make a ton of money, or B – good things happen and you make modest gains because you invested accordingly. … just food for thought
March 30, 2008 at 11:39 PM #179029hipmatt
ParticipantIts one thing to short the market because you believe that the economic fundamentals are just plain negative or wrong… but its another to hope for a “cataclysmic” event similar to the attack on the twin towers, in order to turn a hefty profit. I don’t think I could invest in a bet where I make tons of money on the hopes that innocent people suffer. With an investment strategy like yours, you would be having a bad day if good things keep happening, and that creates a strange and perverse conflict of interest….
…what would you rather happen, A – another terrorist attack killing thousands, but you make a ton of money, or B – good things happen and you make modest gains because you invested accordingly. … just food for thought
March 30, 2008 at 11:39 PM #179013hipmatt
ParticipantIts one thing to short the market because you believe that the economic fundamentals are just plain negative or wrong… but its another to hope for a “cataclysmic” event similar to the attack on the twin towers, in order to turn a hefty profit. I don’t think I could invest in a bet where I make tons of money on the hopes that innocent people suffer. With an investment strategy like yours, you would be having a bad day if good things keep happening, and that creates a strange and perverse conflict of interest….
…what would you rather happen, A – another terrorist attack killing thousands, but you make a ton of money, or B – good things happen and you make modest gains because you invested accordingly. … just food for thought
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