Building Permitting Process

[briansd1]

[quote=UCGal] Actually, Brian is pretty consistent on this… He has no issues with hiring undocumented workers. etc.. He follows the rules when it suits him. And ignores them when it doesn’t.

At least that’s my perception.[/quote]

I believe that I’m more honest than most on the reality of building contracting; and I say it like I see it. That might upset some sensibilities.

What’s the meaning of “hiring” anyway? Would I put an undocumented worker directly on my payroll? No.

Do I check the immigration paperwork of the independent contractors who come to my house to do work? No.

The reality is that you might hire a contractor who’s very professional, speaks English well and appears “legal”. He will do the hand-holding and the proposals…. but the guys who actually do the dirty grunt work, you really don’t know their immigration status.

I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]
If they’re hiring a general contractor – and check his cslb card, they’re getting his/her status.
If that contractor hires illegals it is not the homeowner directly hiring/paying. It may be a fine difference, but it’s an important legal distinction.

However, if I were to hire a gardener, housekeeper, etc… personally, I would ask their status. I’m paying this “independant contractor” and don’t want to be at legal jeapardy. I do this for selfish reasons – I want the arm of the law on my side if something goes wrong. I want to be able to pursue recourse if I’m ripped off. But that’s just me.

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]
If they’re hiring a general contractor – and check his cslb card, they’re getting his/her status.
If that contractor hires illegals it is not the homeowner directly hiring/paying. It may be a fine difference, but it’s an important legal distinction.

However, if I were to hire a gardener, housekeeper, etc… personally, I would ask their status. I’m paying this “independant contractor” and don’t want to be at legal jeapardy. I do this for selfish reasons – I want the arm of the law on my side if something goes wrong. I want to be able to pursue recourse if I’m ripped off. But that’s just me.

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]
If they’re hiring a general contractor – and check his cslb card, they’re getting his/her status.
If that contractor hires illegals it is not the homeowner directly hiring/paying. It may be a fine difference, but it’s an important legal distinction.

However, if I were to hire a gardener, housekeeper, etc… personally, I would ask their status. I’m paying this “independant contractor” and don’t want to be at legal jeapardy. I do this for selfish reasons – I want the arm of the law on my side if something goes wrong. I want to be able to pursue recourse if I’m ripped off. But that’s just me.

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]
If they’re hiring a general contractor – and check his cslb card, they’re getting his/her status.
If that contractor hires illegals it is not the homeowner directly hiring/paying. It may be a fine difference, but it’s an important legal distinction.

However, if I were to hire a gardener, housekeeper, etc… personally, I would ask their status. I’m paying this “independant contractor” and don’t want to be at legal jeapardy. I do this for selfish reasons – I want the arm of the law on my side if something goes wrong. I want to be able to pursue recourse if I’m ripped off. But that’s just me.

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]
If they’re hiring a general contractor – and check his cslb card, they’re getting his/her status.
If that contractor hires illegals it is not the homeowner directly hiring/paying. It may be a fine difference, but it’s an important legal distinction.

However, if I were to hire a gardener, housekeeper, etc… personally, I would ask their status. I’m paying this “independant contractor” and don’t want to be at legal jeapardy. I do this for selfish reasons – I want the arm of the law on my side if something goes wrong. I want to be able to pursue recourse if I’m ripped off. But that’s just me.

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.

[NotCranky]

[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.[/quote]
Ucgal
I didn’t think anyone in their right mind would build an entire granny flat of any quality without permits? Anyway, I would never build something w/o permits that I was not willing to tear down.
Getting “forgiveness” is not cheap and as you know is subject to complete failure.

[NotCranky]

[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.[/quote]
Ucgal
I didn’t think anyone in their right mind would build an entire granny flat of any quality without permits? Anyway, I would never build something w/o permits that I was not willing to tear down.
Getting “forgiveness” is not cheap and as you know is subject to complete failure.

[NotCranky]

[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.[/quote]
Ucgal
I didn’t think anyone in their right mind would build an entire granny flat of any quality without permits? Anyway, I would never build something w/o permits that I was not willing to tear down.
Getting “forgiveness” is not cheap and as you know is subject to complete failure.

[NotCranky]

[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.[/quote]
Ucgal
I didn’t think anyone in their right mind would build an entire granny flat of any quality without permits? Anyway, I would never build something w/o permits that I was not willing to tear down.
Getting “forgiveness” is not cheap and as you know is subject to complete failure.

[NotCranky]

[quote=UCGal][quote=briansd1]I doubt that many homeowners ask for legal work documents prior to “hiring” a contractor.[/quote]

That’s why we went through the maze of obstruction when we got our permit… Friends advised it would be easier to ask for forgiveness than permission… but we didn’t want to risk it.[/quote]
Ucgal
I didn’t think anyone in their right mind would build an entire granny flat of any quality without permits? Anyway, I would never build something w/o permits that I was not willing to tear down.
Getting “forgiveness” is not cheap and as you know is subject to complete failure.

[EconProf]

Briansd1: if you think the permitting process is difficult, try opening a business and hiring people in California. You will soon learn that the government, at all levels, is your enemy. You will also learn why California’s unemployment rate is the second highest in the nation. And why 37% of all net new jobs are created in business-friendly Texas.

[EconProf]

Briansd1: if you think the permitting process is difficult, try opening a business and hiring people in California. You will soon learn that the government, at all levels, is your enemy. You will also learn why California’s unemployment rate is the second highest in the nation. And why 37% of all net new jobs are created in business-friendly Texas.

[EconProf]

Briansd1: if you think the permitting process is difficult, try opening a business and hiring people in California. You will soon learn that the government, at all levels, is your enemy. You will also learn why California’s unemployment rate is the second highest in the nation. And why 37% of all net new jobs are created in business-friendly Texas.

[EconProf]

Briansd1: if you think the permitting process is difficult, try opening a business and hiring people in California. You will soon learn that the government, at all levels, is your enemy. You will also learn why California’s unemployment rate is the second highest in the nation. And why 37% of all net new jobs are created in business-friendly Texas.

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