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September 8, 2009 at 10:53 PM #455244September 8, 2009 at 10:59 PM #454448
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ParticipantAllan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?
September 8, 2009 at 10:59 PM #454643Zeitgeist
ParticipantAllan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?
September 8, 2009 at 10:59 PM #454984Zeitgeist
ParticipantAllan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?
September 8, 2009 at 10:59 PM #455055Zeitgeist
ParticipantAllan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?
September 8, 2009 at 10:59 PM #455249Zeitgeist
ParticipantAllan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?
September 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM #454458Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Not aimed at you. It was a back handed remark to a previous poster, who does not grasp geopolitics and always wants to go back to the default stuff about Bush et al. I just saw something about San Diego looking into all the medical marijuana outlets springing up lately, almost like .99 stores. I thought there might be a relationship. I know not everyone likes beer and wine. You are far too sharp to be a pot head. Some of the night time arguments wander off the res.[/quote]
Zeit: Well… You might have been surprised at me during my younger days, especially in high school.
As far as the tired old BushCo/Blood for Oil trope: It still hasn’t died, obviously. The interesting thing is: Where’s the evidence? What’s offered up is the same pap, time and again, but there’s nothing behind it. Like I said, I think some of it is genuine ignorance and some of it is willful ignorance, or the holding of a position in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Much like the people insisting that Obama doesn’t have a valid birth certificate; at some point you have to admit that the evidence simply isn’t there, as much as you want to believe otherwise. I’d be happy to admit my error, but I’d like to see the evidence.
I think captcha makes a good point, in that it’s more realistic to believe that Iraq was about oil, because the other alternatives seem somewhat unbelievable, but I always fall back on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in that instance: “When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.
September 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM #454653Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Not aimed at you. It was a back handed remark to a previous poster, who does not grasp geopolitics and always wants to go back to the default stuff about Bush et al. I just saw something about San Diego looking into all the medical marijuana outlets springing up lately, almost like .99 stores. I thought there might be a relationship. I know not everyone likes beer and wine. You are far too sharp to be a pot head. Some of the night time arguments wander off the res.[/quote]
Zeit: Well… You might have been surprised at me during my younger days, especially in high school.
As far as the tired old BushCo/Blood for Oil trope: It still hasn’t died, obviously. The interesting thing is: Where’s the evidence? What’s offered up is the same pap, time and again, but there’s nothing behind it. Like I said, I think some of it is genuine ignorance and some of it is willful ignorance, or the holding of a position in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Much like the people insisting that Obama doesn’t have a valid birth certificate; at some point you have to admit that the evidence simply isn’t there, as much as you want to believe otherwise. I’d be happy to admit my error, but I’d like to see the evidence.
I think captcha makes a good point, in that it’s more realistic to believe that Iraq was about oil, because the other alternatives seem somewhat unbelievable, but I always fall back on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in that instance: “When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.
September 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM #454994Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Not aimed at you. It was a back handed remark to a previous poster, who does not grasp geopolitics and always wants to go back to the default stuff about Bush et al. I just saw something about San Diego looking into all the medical marijuana outlets springing up lately, almost like .99 stores. I thought there might be a relationship. I know not everyone likes beer and wine. You are far too sharp to be a pot head. Some of the night time arguments wander off the res.[/quote]
Zeit: Well… You might have been surprised at me during my younger days, especially in high school.
As far as the tired old BushCo/Blood for Oil trope: It still hasn’t died, obviously. The interesting thing is: Where’s the evidence? What’s offered up is the same pap, time and again, but there’s nothing behind it. Like I said, I think some of it is genuine ignorance and some of it is willful ignorance, or the holding of a position in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Much like the people insisting that Obama doesn’t have a valid birth certificate; at some point you have to admit that the evidence simply isn’t there, as much as you want to believe otherwise. I’d be happy to admit my error, but I’d like to see the evidence.
I think captcha makes a good point, in that it’s more realistic to believe that Iraq was about oil, because the other alternatives seem somewhat unbelievable, but I always fall back on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in that instance: “When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.
September 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM #455065Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Not aimed at you. It was a back handed remark to a previous poster, who does not grasp geopolitics and always wants to go back to the default stuff about Bush et al. I just saw something about San Diego looking into all the medical marijuana outlets springing up lately, almost like .99 stores. I thought there might be a relationship. I know not everyone likes beer and wine. You are far too sharp to be a pot head. Some of the night time arguments wander off the res.[/quote]
Zeit: Well… You might have been surprised at me during my younger days, especially in high school.
As far as the tired old BushCo/Blood for Oil trope: It still hasn’t died, obviously. The interesting thing is: Where’s the evidence? What’s offered up is the same pap, time and again, but there’s nothing behind it. Like I said, I think some of it is genuine ignorance and some of it is willful ignorance, or the holding of a position in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Much like the people insisting that Obama doesn’t have a valid birth certificate; at some point you have to admit that the evidence simply isn’t there, as much as you want to believe otherwise. I’d be happy to admit my error, but I’d like to see the evidence.
I think captcha makes a good point, in that it’s more realistic to believe that Iraq was about oil, because the other alternatives seem somewhat unbelievable, but I always fall back on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in that instance: “When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.
September 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM #455259Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Not aimed at you. It was a back handed remark to a previous poster, who does not grasp geopolitics and always wants to go back to the default stuff about Bush et al. I just saw something about San Diego looking into all the medical marijuana outlets springing up lately, almost like .99 stores. I thought there might be a relationship. I know not everyone likes beer and wine. You are far too sharp to be a pot head. Some of the night time arguments wander off the res.[/quote]
Zeit: Well… You might have been surprised at me during my younger days, especially in high school.
As far as the tired old BushCo/Blood for Oil trope: It still hasn’t died, obviously. The interesting thing is: Where’s the evidence? What’s offered up is the same pap, time and again, but there’s nothing behind it. Like I said, I think some of it is genuine ignorance and some of it is willful ignorance, or the holding of a position in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Much like the people insisting that Obama doesn’t have a valid birth certificate; at some point you have to admit that the evidence simply isn’t there, as much as you want to believe otherwise. I’d be happy to admit my error, but I’d like to see the evidence.
I think captcha makes a good point, in that it’s more realistic to believe that Iraq was about oil, because the other alternatives seem somewhat unbelievable, but I always fall back on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in that instance: “When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.
September 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM #454478Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?[/quote]
Zeit: I had a Jesuit buddy of mine send me that same article very recently. The magazine, The Trumpet, is a party organ for the Philadelphia Church of God, which is, as I understand it, a funky offshoot of the Seventh Day Adventists. This article is a mish-mash of convoluted prophecy and entirely consistent with some of the apocalyptic pronouncements of groups like the Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses (who are famous for calling the date of the end of the world, only to have to recant and come up with a new date when the old one passes without incident).
Farcical as it is, I’d be hard pressed to imagine modern Germany as anything like it’s predecessors in either 1914 or 1939 (or 1870, for that matter). The German Army of today, the Bundeswehr, is primarily defensive in nature and I would imagine that the French or British would soundly thrash them in about a week or so, if it came to that.
But, ceteris paribus, I could be wrong and we’ll all be speaking German by next year. Good news there is a still retain a little bit of the mother tongue and am Catholic, so perhaps I can ingratiate myself with our new masters.
September 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM #454673Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?[/quote]
Zeit: I had a Jesuit buddy of mine send me that same article very recently. The magazine, The Trumpet, is a party organ for the Philadelphia Church of God, which is, as I understand it, a funky offshoot of the Seventh Day Adventists. This article is a mish-mash of convoluted prophecy and entirely consistent with some of the apocalyptic pronouncements of groups like the Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses (who are famous for calling the date of the end of the world, only to have to recant and come up with a new date when the old one passes without incident).
Farcical as it is, I’d be hard pressed to imagine modern Germany as anything like it’s predecessors in either 1914 or 1939 (or 1870, for that matter). The German Army of today, the Bundeswehr, is primarily defensive in nature and I would imagine that the French or British would soundly thrash them in about a week or so, if it came to that.
But, ceteris paribus, I could be wrong and we’ll all be speaking German by next year. Good news there is a still retain a little bit of the mother tongue and am Catholic, so perhaps I can ingratiate myself with our new masters.
September 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM #455013Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?[/quote]
Zeit: I had a Jesuit buddy of mine send me that same article very recently. The magazine, The Trumpet, is a party organ for the Philadelphia Church of God, which is, as I understand it, a funky offshoot of the Seventh Day Adventists. This article is a mish-mash of convoluted prophecy and entirely consistent with some of the apocalyptic pronouncements of groups like the Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses (who are famous for calling the date of the end of the world, only to have to recant and come up with a new date when the old one passes without incident).
Farcical as it is, I’d be hard pressed to imagine modern Germany as anything like it’s predecessors in either 1914 or 1939 (or 1870, for that matter). The German Army of today, the Bundeswehr, is primarily defensive in nature and I would imagine that the French or British would soundly thrash them in about a week or so, if it came to that.
But, ceteris paribus, I could be wrong and we’ll all be speaking German by next year. Good news there is a still retain a little bit of the mother tongue and am Catholic, so perhaps I can ingratiate myself with our new masters.
September 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM #455085Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
Here is a weird assertion on a blog. Since you have German ties and seem to understand the culture, what do you think of this:http://patrickmadrid.blogspot.com/2009/09/protestant-group-predicts-rise-of-new.html
Kind of an interesting theory to me. What do you make of it?[/quote]
Zeit: I had a Jesuit buddy of mine send me that same article very recently. The magazine, The Trumpet, is a party organ for the Philadelphia Church of God, which is, as I understand it, a funky offshoot of the Seventh Day Adventists. This article is a mish-mash of convoluted prophecy and entirely consistent with some of the apocalyptic pronouncements of groups like the Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses (who are famous for calling the date of the end of the world, only to have to recant and come up with a new date when the old one passes without incident).
Farcical as it is, I’d be hard pressed to imagine modern Germany as anything like it’s predecessors in either 1914 or 1939 (or 1870, for that matter). The German Army of today, the Bundeswehr, is primarily defensive in nature and I would imagine that the French or British would soundly thrash them in about a week or so, if it came to that.
But, ceteris paribus, I could be wrong and we’ll all be speaking German by next year. Good news there is a still retain a little bit of the mother tongue and am Catholic, so perhaps I can ingratiate myself with our new masters.
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