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November 19, 2007 at 2:37 PM #10946
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November 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM #101311
desmond
ParticipantTalk about a “sagging” economy.
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November 19, 2007 at 3:42 PM #101337
drunkle
Participantzing!
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November 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM #101363
temeculaguy
ParticipantThis is horrible, karma has now struck because I wished for a housing correction unaware what the consequences would be. I don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
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November 19, 2007 at 5:37 PM #101378
contraman
ParticipantTG, no worries. Tijuana is about 1/4 of the price for plastics. May not look perfect and a few side effects but nothing wrong with a little freaky looking woman…..you know, like downsizing your McMansion that you don’t use 1/2 of but needed to buy to impress your co-workers……
Sincerely, Contraman
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November 19, 2007 at 7:29 PM #101433
bsrsharma
ParticipantThere was a similar report on another blog about some nail salons close to shuttering. This news gives a whole new meaning to HELOC for “Remodeling and Improvement”.
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November 19, 2007 at 8:08 PM #101463
Anonymous
GuestI am in the business and can confirm it’s slow. I do 75% reconstructive, so it’s not killing me, but the cosmetic work is down as of the late summer. Compatriates are seeing the same thing. High end retailers are off, too, my building manager tells me (90210 area)
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November 19, 2007 at 8:08 PM #101549
Anonymous
GuestI am in the business and can confirm it’s slow. I do 75% reconstructive, so it’s not killing me, but the cosmetic work is down as of the late summer. Compatriates are seeing the same thing. High end retailers are off, too, my building manager tells me (90210 area)
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November 19, 2007 at 8:08 PM #101560
Anonymous
GuestI am in the business and can confirm it’s slow. I do 75% reconstructive, so it’s not killing me, but the cosmetic work is down as of the late summer. Compatriates are seeing the same thing. High end retailers are off, too, my building manager tells me (90210 area)
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November 19, 2007 at 8:08 PM #101578
Anonymous
GuestI am in the business and can confirm it’s slow. I do 75% reconstructive, so it’s not killing me, but the cosmetic work is down as of the late summer. Compatriates are seeing the same thing. High end retailers are off, too, my building manager tells me (90210 area)
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November 19, 2007 at 8:08 PM #101606
Anonymous
GuestI am in the business and can confirm it’s slow. I do 75% reconstructive, so it’s not killing me, but the cosmetic work is down as of the late summer. Compatriates are seeing the same thing. High end retailers are off, too, my building manager tells me (90210 area)
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November 19, 2007 at 7:29 PM #101519
bsrsharma
ParticipantThere was a similar report on another blog about some nail salons close to shuttering. This news gives a whole new meaning to HELOC for “Remodeling and Improvement”.
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November 19, 2007 at 7:29 PM #101530
bsrsharma
ParticipantThere was a similar report on another blog about some nail salons close to shuttering. This news gives a whole new meaning to HELOC for “Remodeling and Improvement”.
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November 19, 2007 at 7:29 PM #101547
bsrsharma
ParticipantThere was a similar report on another blog about some nail salons close to shuttering. This news gives a whole new meaning to HELOC for “Remodeling and Improvement”.
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November 19, 2007 at 7:29 PM #101576
bsrsharma
ParticipantThere was a similar report on another blog about some nail salons close to shuttering. This news gives a whole new meaning to HELOC for “Remodeling and Improvement”.
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November 21, 2007 at 1:25 PM #102553
Diego Mamani
ParticipantI don't know about Tijuana, but in Chile they do great work. This clip from a news show has excerpts from a make-a-wish/Dr-90210 type of show. Good thing is, they don't censor any body parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujyVbTaYlRM
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November 21, 2007 at 1:25 PM #102628
Diego Mamani
ParticipantI don't know about Tijuana, but in Chile they do great work. This clip from a news show has excerpts from a make-a-wish/Dr-90210 type of show. Good thing is, they don't censor any body parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujyVbTaYlRM
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November 21, 2007 at 1:25 PM #102641
Diego Mamani
ParticipantI don't know about Tijuana, but in Chile they do great work. This clip from a news show has excerpts from a make-a-wish/Dr-90210 type of show. Good thing is, they don't censor any body parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujyVbTaYlRM
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November 21, 2007 at 1:25 PM #102665
Diego Mamani
ParticipantI don't know about Tijuana, but in Chile they do great work. This clip from a news show has excerpts from a make-a-wish/Dr-90210 type of show. Good thing is, they don't censor any body parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujyVbTaYlRM
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November 21, 2007 at 1:25 PM #102694
Diego Mamani
ParticipantI don't know about Tijuana, but in Chile they do great work. This clip from a news show has excerpts from a make-a-wish/Dr-90210 type of show. Good thing is, they don't censor any body parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujyVbTaYlRM
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November 19, 2007 at 5:37 PM #101464
contraman
ParticipantTG, no worries. Tijuana is about 1/4 of the price for plastics. May not look perfect and a few side effects but nothing wrong with a little freaky looking woman…..you know, like downsizing your McMansion that you don’t use 1/2 of but needed to buy to impress your co-workers……
Sincerely, Contraman
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November 19, 2007 at 5:37 PM #101476
contraman
ParticipantTG, no worries. Tijuana is about 1/4 of the price for plastics. May not look perfect and a few side effects but nothing wrong with a little freaky looking woman…..you know, like downsizing your McMansion that you don’t use 1/2 of but needed to buy to impress your co-workers……
Sincerely, Contraman
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November 19, 2007 at 5:37 PM #101492
contraman
ParticipantTG, no worries. Tijuana is about 1/4 of the price for plastics. May not look perfect and a few side effects but nothing wrong with a little freaky looking woman…..you know, like downsizing your McMansion that you don’t use 1/2 of but needed to buy to impress your co-workers……
Sincerely, Contraman
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November 19, 2007 at 5:37 PM #101521
contraman
ParticipantTG, no worries. Tijuana is about 1/4 of the price for plastics. May not look perfect and a few side effects but nothing wrong with a little freaky looking woman…..you know, like downsizing your McMansion that you don’t use 1/2 of but needed to buy to impress your co-workers……
Sincerely, Contraman
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November 19, 2007 at 8:36 PM #101478
barnaby33
ParticipantI don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
Yeah TG, its a bitch. Its really going to be a flat(er), fat(er) world out there. People certainly don’t eat healthier in times of stress, nope straight for the comfort food. Without a heloc to get lipo, we are all going to be stuck seeing the outcome of this.Josh
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November 19, 2007 at 8:36 PM #101564
barnaby33
ParticipantI don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
Yeah TG, its a bitch. Its really going to be a flat(er), fat(er) world out there. People certainly don’t eat healthier in times of stress, nope straight for the comfort food. Without a heloc to get lipo, we are all going to be stuck seeing the outcome of this.Josh
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November 19, 2007 at 8:36 PM #101575
barnaby33
ParticipantI don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
Yeah TG, its a bitch. Its really going to be a flat(er), fat(er) world out there. People certainly don’t eat healthier in times of stress, nope straight for the comfort food. Without a heloc to get lipo, we are all going to be stuck seeing the outcome of this.Josh
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November 19, 2007 at 8:36 PM #101593
barnaby33
ParticipantI don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
Yeah TG, its a bitch. Its really going to be a flat(er), fat(er) world out there. People certainly don’t eat healthier in times of stress, nope straight for the comfort food. Without a heloc to get lipo, we are all going to be stuck seeing the outcome of this.Josh
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November 19, 2007 at 8:36 PM #101621
barnaby33
ParticipantI don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
Yeah TG, its a bitch. Its really going to be a flat(er), fat(er) world out there. People certainly don’t eat healthier in times of stress, nope straight for the comfort food. Without a heloc to get lipo, we are all going to be stuck seeing the outcome of this.Josh
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November 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM #101449
temeculaguy
ParticipantThis is horrible, karma has now struck because I wished for a housing correction unaware what the consequences would be. I don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
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November 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM #101461
temeculaguy
ParticipantThis is horrible, karma has now struck because I wished for a housing correction unaware what the consequences would be. I don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
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November 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM #101477
temeculaguy
ParticipantThis is horrible, karma has now struck because I wished for a housing correction unaware what the consequences would be. I don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
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November 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM #101506
temeculaguy
ParticipantThis is horrible, karma has now struck because I wished for a housing correction unaware what the consequences would be. I don’t want to live in an unaugmented world.
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November 19, 2007 at 3:42 PM #101424
drunkle
Participantzing!
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November 19, 2007 at 3:42 PM #101436
drunkle
Participantzing!
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November 19, 2007 at 3:42 PM #101452
drunkle
Participantzing!
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November 19, 2007 at 3:42 PM #101481
drunkle
Participantzing!
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November 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM #101399
desmond
ParticipantTalk about a “sagging” economy.
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November 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM #101410
desmond
ParticipantTalk about a “sagging” economy.
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November 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM #101427
desmond
ParticipantTalk about a “sagging” economy.
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November 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM #101456
desmond
ParticipantTalk about a “sagging” economy.
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November 19, 2007 at 9:24 PM #101503
My Opinion
ParticipantHere is an article about how the economic situation is causing high end consumers to pull back on spending, which may contribute to a recession.
The super rich can party forever, but for the merely well-to-do, troubles in real estate and Wall Street can mean belt tightening.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aS8qyeqQhtXk
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November 19, 2007 at 11:13 PM #101538
Ricechex
ParticipantOh good gawd. I guess facelifts are one of those things that you can cut out when gas prices, housing, LIVING becomes too expensive. Why is life always about looking good and having money? What about meaningful relationships? Hey…whoever posted the book—“Paradox of Choice”—thanks. I got it, and it is quite informative.
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November 20, 2007 at 12:00 AM #101552
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantCall me vain, but I am seriously considering heading to TJ and getting my nasty looking varicose vein taken care of. I am supposed to be a dude, and this thing is just ugly looking.
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November 20, 2007 at 9:20 AM #101632
kicksavedave
ParticipantUse caution Cardiff. A few years ago I had a male roommate who went down to TJ to get a laser face peel, so he could “score younger chicks” (his own exact words).
He came back looking like Freddie Krueger and couldn’t (wouldn’t?) leave the house for a month. Make sure you get a reference from someone you trust.
Its funny, but here in Colorado, especially around Boulder, the saline injected chests just aren’t the there in the same qty as in SoCal. Its one of the aspects of the scenery that I miss most…
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November 20, 2007 at 10:08 AM #101692
ibjames
ParticipantIt’s funny how fast you stop noticing it when you are out here, when I vacationed out here I noticed all the augmentation
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November 20, 2007 at 10:19 AM #101697
patientlywaiting
ParticipantIt could be natural (rather than augmented) in California. Hispanics just have better genes in that regard. And there are plenty of Hispanic blondes.
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November 20, 2007 at 11:20 AM #101772
cyphire
ParticipantThe sad truth is that it isn’t even the equity loss, but the large droves of Realtors, mortgage brokers, etc. who aren’t spending any more. Lets not forget what a whopping percentage of our local economy is real estate / construction driven. These people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
When times were off the charts increase-wise, they were the ones buying the new Mercedes every 2 years, and the huge homes, as well as a good chunk of the investment flipping properties.
I know a few of these people, and play poker with some of the brokers / construction / real estate agents. Their games are getting way worse, they alternate between very conservative play, to desperation bluffs all to try to make some money and get the endorphines flowing. All in all they are losing money to me and some other more stable individuals at the tables in a desperate plea for some type of satisfaction.
I no longer talk about housing around the poker table, these people are shredded and on the edge!
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November 20, 2007 at 2:34 PM #101880
bsrsharma
Participantcyphire – please do write more about this. I remember “Liars Poker” and also that Bear Stearns top two guys played poker. There seems to be some connection between unusual poker playing and reckless money management. May be the line between real and unreal becomes fuzzy – like ingesting alcohol or drugs.
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November 21, 2007 at 10:12 AM #102442
cyphire
ParticipantI will bsrsharma… I think, though, that it’s more about the rush than anything else. The mortgage brokers, Realtors, and other trades involved with construction and homes have been minting money. They have been on hiring binges, and there was a huge amount of ‘rush’ factor in their business. Just like playing video games, the positive reenforcement of getting the sale, getting the listing, having a quarter of more than double last years mortgage business, etc. made endorphine junkies out of these seemingly normal business people.
Especially those who were teachers, accountants, etc who are now Realtors. These people had somewhat staid and boring jobs, and when they became Realtors, always waiting for the hot sale made them gambling junkies.
Now some of them are trying for the same rush at the poker table. Others will probably get dependent on drugs and alcohol. It’s going to be sad.
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November 21, 2007 at 11:24 AM #102467
CBad
ParticipantThese people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
Very interesting that you say that. I have a friend who works at a high end salon in Del Mar. Business apparently is doing quite poorly right now. You think people always have to get their hair cut, right?! But I think people are getting their services performed less often or going somewhere less expensive. At the moment, some people working there are mailing out “classy” fliers to upscale neighborhoods offering a one time free choice of service.
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November 21, 2007 at 12:40 PM #102523
bsrsharma
Participantpeople always have to get their hair cut, right?
…@ the $10 Barbershop!
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November 21, 2007 at 1:20 PM #102547
patientlywaiting
ParticipantWhen i see those fancy nails on a woman’s fingers, I figure she doesn’t clean. When you have to cut out the maid service, you have to cut out the nail salon too because you now have to do your own cleaning.
And what’s the point of a fancy hairdo, when you can’t afford to hang out at Starbucks anymore?
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November 21, 2007 at 1:20 PM #102623
patientlywaiting
ParticipantWhen i see those fancy nails on a woman’s fingers, I figure she doesn’t clean. When you have to cut out the maid service, you have to cut out the nail salon too because you now have to do your own cleaning.
And what’s the point of a fancy hairdo, when you can’t afford to hang out at Starbucks anymore?
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November 21, 2007 at 1:20 PM #102636
patientlywaiting
ParticipantWhen i see those fancy nails on a woman’s fingers, I figure she doesn’t clean. When you have to cut out the maid service, you have to cut out the nail salon too because you now have to do your own cleaning.
And what’s the point of a fancy hairdo, when you can’t afford to hang out at Starbucks anymore?
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November 21, 2007 at 1:20 PM #102660
patientlywaiting
ParticipantWhen i see those fancy nails on a woman’s fingers, I figure she doesn’t clean. When you have to cut out the maid service, you have to cut out the nail salon too because you now have to do your own cleaning.
And what’s the point of a fancy hairdo, when you can’t afford to hang out at Starbucks anymore?
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November 21, 2007 at 1:20 PM #102689
patientlywaiting
ParticipantWhen i see those fancy nails on a woman’s fingers, I figure she doesn’t clean. When you have to cut out the maid service, you have to cut out the nail salon too because you now have to do your own cleaning.
And what’s the point of a fancy hairdo, when you can’t afford to hang out at Starbucks anymore?
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November 21, 2007 at 12:40 PM #102598
bsrsharma
Participantpeople always have to get their hair cut, right?
…@ the $10 Barbershop!
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November 21, 2007 at 12:40 PM #102611
bsrsharma
Participantpeople always have to get their hair cut, right?
…@ the $10 Barbershop!
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November 21, 2007 at 12:40 PM #102635
bsrsharma
Participantpeople always have to get their hair cut, right?
…@ the $10 Barbershop!
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November 21, 2007 at 12:40 PM #102664
bsrsharma
Participantpeople always have to get their hair cut, right?
…@ the $10 Barbershop!
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November 21, 2007 at 11:24 AM #102544
CBad
ParticipantThese people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
Very interesting that you say that. I have a friend who works at a high end salon in Del Mar. Business apparently is doing quite poorly right now. You think people always have to get their hair cut, right?! But I think people are getting their services performed less often or going somewhere less expensive. At the moment, some people working there are mailing out “classy” fliers to upscale neighborhoods offering a one time free choice of service.
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November 21, 2007 at 11:24 AM #102556
CBad
ParticipantThese people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
Very interesting that you say that. I have a friend who works at a high end salon in Del Mar. Business apparently is doing quite poorly right now. You think people always have to get their hair cut, right?! But I think people are getting their services performed less often or going somewhere less expensive. At the moment, some people working there are mailing out “classy” fliers to upscale neighborhoods offering a one time free choice of service.
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November 21, 2007 at 11:24 AM #102580
CBad
ParticipantThese people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
Very interesting that you say that. I have a friend who works at a high end salon in Del Mar. Business apparently is doing quite poorly right now. You think people always have to get their hair cut, right?! But I think people are getting their services performed less often or going somewhere less expensive. At the moment, some people working there are mailing out “classy” fliers to upscale neighborhoods offering a one time free choice of service.
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November 21, 2007 at 11:24 AM #102609
CBad
ParticipantThese people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
Very interesting that you say that. I have a friend who works at a high end salon in Del Mar. Business apparently is doing quite poorly right now. You think people always have to get their hair cut, right?! But I think people are getting their services performed less often or going somewhere less expensive. At the moment, some people working there are mailing out “classy” fliers to upscale neighborhoods offering a one time free choice of service.
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November 21, 2007 at 10:12 AM #102519
cyphire
ParticipantI will bsrsharma… I think, though, that it’s more about the rush than anything else. The mortgage brokers, Realtors, and other trades involved with construction and homes have been minting money. They have been on hiring binges, and there was a huge amount of ‘rush’ factor in their business. Just like playing video games, the positive reenforcement of getting the sale, getting the listing, having a quarter of more than double last years mortgage business, etc. made endorphine junkies out of these seemingly normal business people.
Especially those who were teachers, accountants, etc who are now Realtors. These people had somewhat staid and boring jobs, and when they became Realtors, always waiting for the hot sale made them gambling junkies.
Now some of them are trying for the same rush at the poker table. Others will probably get dependent on drugs and alcohol. It’s going to be sad.
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November 21, 2007 at 10:12 AM #102531
cyphire
ParticipantI will bsrsharma… I think, though, that it’s more about the rush than anything else. The mortgage brokers, Realtors, and other trades involved with construction and homes have been minting money. They have been on hiring binges, and there was a huge amount of ‘rush’ factor in their business. Just like playing video games, the positive reenforcement of getting the sale, getting the listing, having a quarter of more than double last years mortgage business, etc. made endorphine junkies out of these seemingly normal business people.
Especially those who were teachers, accountants, etc who are now Realtors. These people had somewhat staid and boring jobs, and when they became Realtors, always waiting for the hot sale made them gambling junkies.
Now some of them are trying for the same rush at the poker table. Others will probably get dependent on drugs and alcohol. It’s going to be sad.
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November 21, 2007 at 10:12 AM #102555
cyphire
ParticipantI will bsrsharma… I think, though, that it’s more about the rush than anything else. The mortgage brokers, Realtors, and other trades involved with construction and homes have been minting money. They have been on hiring binges, and there was a huge amount of ‘rush’ factor in their business. Just like playing video games, the positive reenforcement of getting the sale, getting the listing, having a quarter of more than double last years mortgage business, etc. made endorphine junkies out of these seemingly normal business people.
Especially those who were teachers, accountants, etc who are now Realtors. These people had somewhat staid and boring jobs, and when they became Realtors, always waiting for the hot sale made them gambling junkies.
Now some of them are trying for the same rush at the poker table. Others will probably get dependent on drugs and alcohol. It’s going to be sad.
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November 21, 2007 at 10:12 AM #102584
cyphire
ParticipantI will bsrsharma… I think, though, that it’s more about the rush than anything else. The mortgage brokers, Realtors, and other trades involved with construction and homes have been minting money. They have been on hiring binges, and there was a huge amount of ‘rush’ factor in their business. Just like playing video games, the positive reenforcement of getting the sale, getting the listing, having a quarter of more than double last years mortgage business, etc. made endorphine junkies out of these seemingly normal business people.
Especially those who were teachers, accountants, etc who are now Realtors. These people had somewhat staid and boring jobs, and when they became Realtors, always waiting for the hot sale made them gambling junkies.
Now some of them are trying for the same rush at the poker table. Others will probably get dependent on drugs and alcohol. It’s going to be sad.
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November 20, 2007 at 2:34 PM #101961
bsrsharma
Participantcyphire – please do write more about this. I remember “Liars Poker” and also that Bear Stearns top two guys played poker. There seems to be some connection between unusual poker playing and reckless money management. May be the line between real and unreal becomes fuzzy – like ingesting alcohol or drugs.
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November 20, 2007 at 2:34 PM #101973
bsrsharma
Participantcyphire – please do write more about this. I remember “Liars Poker” and also that Bear Stearns top two guys played poker. There seems to be some connection between unusual poker playing and reckless money management. May be the line between real and unreal becomes fuzzy – like ingesting alcohol or drugs.
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November 20, 2007 at 2:34 PM #101994
bsrsharma
Participantcyphire – please do write more about this. I remember “Liars Poker” and also that Bear Stearns top two guys played poker. There seems to be some connection between unusual poker playing and reckless money management. May be the line between real and unreal becomes fuzzy – like ingesting alcohol or drugs.
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November 20, 2007 at 2:34 PM #102023
bsrsharma
Participantcyphire – please do write more about this. I remember “Liars Poker” and also that Bear Stearns top two guys played poker. There seems to be some connection between unusual poker playing and reckless money management. May be the line between real and unreal becomes fuzzy – like ingesting alcohol or drugs.
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November 20, 2007 at 11:20 AM #101859
cyphire
ParticipantThe sad truth is that it isn’t even the equity loss, but the large droves of Realtors, mortgage brokers, etc. who aren’t spending any more. Lets not forget what a whopping percentage of our local economy is real estate / construction driven. These people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
When times were off the charts increase-wise, they were the ones buying the new Mercedes every 2 years, and the huge homes, as well as a good chunk of the investment flipping properties.
I know a few of these people, and play poker with some of the brokers / construction / real estate agents. Their games are getting way worse, they alternate between very conservative play, to desperation bluffs all to try to make some money and get the endorphines flowing. All in all they are losing money to me and some other more stable individuals at the tables in a desperate plea for some type of satisfaction.
I no longer talk about housing around the poker table, these people are shredded and on the edge!
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November 20, 2007 at 11:20 AM #101870
cyphire
ParticipantThe sad truth is that it isn’t even the equity loss, but the large droves of Realtors, mortgage brokers, etc. who aren’t spending any more. Lets not forget what a whopping percentage of our local economy is real estate / construction driven. These people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
When times were off the charts increase-wise, they were the ones buying the new Mercedes every 2 years, and the huge homes, as well as a good chunk of the investment flipping properties.
I know a few of these people, and play poker with some of the brokers / construction / real estate agents. Their games are getting way worse, they alternate between very conservative play, to desperation bluffs all to try to make some money and get the endorphines flowing. All in all they are losing money to me and some other more stable individuals at the tables in a desperate plea for some type of satisfaction.
I no longer talk about housing around the poker table, these people are shredded and on the edge!
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November 20, 2007 at 11:20 AM #101889
cyphire
ParticipantThe sad truth is that it isn’t even the equity loss, but the large droves of Realtors, mortgage brokers, etc. who aren’t spending any more. Lets not forget what a whopping percentage of our local economy is real estate / construction driven. These people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
When times were off the charts increase-wise, they were the ones buying the new Mercedes every 2 years, and the huge homes, as well as a good chunk of the investment flipping properties.
I know a few of these people, and play poker with some of the brokers / construction / real estate agents. Their games are getting way worse, they alternate between very conservative play, to desperation bluffs all to try to make some money and get the endorphines flowing. All in all they are losing money to me and some other more stable individuals at the tables in a desperate plea for some type of satisfaction.
I no longer talk about housing around the poker table, these people are shredded and on the edge!
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November 20, 2007 at 11:20 AM #101917
cyphire
ParticipantThe sad truth is that it isn’t even the equity loss, but the large droves of Realtors, mortgage brokers, etc. who aren’t spending any more. Lets not forget what a whopping percentage of our local economy is real estate / construction driven. These people wash their cars way more often, get their nails done way more often, haircuts, cosmetic surgery, lattes, car buying, house investments, etc. than any other part of our economy.
When times were off the charts increase-wise, they were the ones buying the new Mercedes every 2 years, and the huge homes, as well as a good chunk of the investment flipping properties.
I know a few of these people, and play poker with some of the brokers / construction / real estate agents. Their games are getting way worse, they alternate between very conservative play, to desperation bluffs all to try to make some money and get the endorphines flowing. All in all they are losing money to me and some other more stable individuals at the tables in a desperate plea for some type of satisfaction.
I no longer talk about housing around the poker table, these people are shredded and on the edge!
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November 20, 2007 at 10:19 AM #101783
patientlywaiting
ParticipantIt could be natural (rather than augmented) in California. Hispanics just have better genes in that regard. And there are plenty of Hispanic blondes.
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November 20, 2007 at 10:19 AM #101795
patientlywaiting
ParticipantIt could be natural (rather than augmented) in California. Hispanics just have better genes in that regard. And there are plenty of Hispanic blondes.
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November 20, 2007 at 10:19 AM #101814
patientlywaiting
ParticipantIt could be natural (rather than augmented) in California. Hispanics just have better genes in that regard. And there are plenty of Hispanic blondes.
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November 20, 2007 at 10:19 AM #101841
patientlywaiting
ParticipantIt could be natural (rather than augmented) in California. Hispanics just have better genes in that regard. And there are plenty of Hispanic blondes.
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November 20, 2007 at 10:08 AM #101778
ibjames
ParticipantIt’s funny how fast you stop noticing it when you are out here, when I vacationed out here I noticed all the augmentation
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November 20, 2007 at 10:08 AM #101790
ibjames
ParticipantIt’s funny how fast you stop noticing it when you are out here, when I vacationed out here I noticed all the augmentation
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November 20, 2007 at 10:08 AM #101809
ibjames
ParticipantIt’s funny how fast you stop noticing it when you are out here, when I vacationed out here I noticed all the augmentation
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November 20, 2007 at 10:08 AM #101836
ibjames
ParticipantIt’s funny how fast you stop noticing it when you are out here, when I vacationed out here I noticed all the augmentation
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November 20, 2007 at 9:20 AM #101718
kicksavedave
ParticipantUse caution Cardiff. A few years ago I had a male roommate who went down to TJ to get a laser face peel, so he could “score younger chicks” (his own exact words).
He came back looking like Freddie Krueger and couldn’t (wouldn’t?) leave the house for a month. Make sure you get a reference from someone you trust.
Its funny, but here in Colorado, especially around Boulder, the saline injected chests just aren’t the there in the same qty as in SoCal. Its one of the aspects of the scenery that I miss most…
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November 20, 2007 at 9:20 AM #101730
kicksavedave
ParticipantUse caution Cardiff. A few years ago I had a male roommate who went down to TJ to get a laser face peel, so he could “score younger chicks” (his own exact words).
He came back looking like Freddie Krueger and couldn’t (wouldn’t?) leave the house for a month. Make sure you get a reference from someone you trust.
Its funny, but here in Colorado, especially around Boulder, the saline injected chests just aren’t the there in the same qty as in SoCal. Its one of the aspects of the scenery that I miss most…
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November 20, 2007 at 9:20 AM #101749
kicksavedave
ParticipantUse caution Cardiff. A few years ago I had a male roommate who went down to TJ to get a laser face peel, so he could “score younger chicks” (his own exact words).
He came back looking like Freddie Krueger and couldn’t (wouldn’t?) leave the house for a month. Make sure you get a reference from someone you trust.
Its funny, but here in Colorado, especially around Boulder, the saline injected chests just aren’t the there in the same qty as in SoCal. Its one of the aspects of the scenery that I miss most…
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November 20, 2007 at 9:20 AM #101776
kicksavedave
ParticipantUse caution Cardiff. A few years ago I had a male roommate who went down to TJ to get a laser face peel, so he could “score younger chicks” (his own exact words).
He came back looking like Freddie Krueger and couldn’t (wouldn’t?) leave the house for a month. Make sure you get a reference from someone you trust.
Its funny, but here in Colorado, especially around Boulder, the saline injected chests just aren’t the there in the same qty as in SoCal. Its one of the aspects of the scenery that I miss most…
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November 21, 2007 at 1:45 PM #102568
SD Realtor
ParticipantCardiff I would be very careful as well.
My wife routinely sees people who went to get certain cosmetic procedures done by substandard providers. Not major plastic surgery but more aesthetic stuff. It is a shame but more often then not she has to send them to places like Derm Associates for intensive laser treatments to try to undo the mess and many times that will not even work… This includes people who had permanent makeup that was done wrong or at an inferior salon or spa, other camo procedures, also poorly done laser treatments.
I can understand saving money on a commodity or service of some type.
However I will never understand people who risk personal injury or disfigurement just to save a few hundred bucks.
SD Realtor
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November 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM #102573
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI have a friend who went to Pakistan for a kidney. He paid $40,000 because the wait is too long in America. He couldn’t be happier and the new kidney has given him a new life. He said it’s the best money he ever spent.
Thailand, South Africa and now India have cosmetic surgery for low prices, but high world standards. The clinics are run by Americans.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/business/yourmoney/15care.html
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November 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM #102648
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI have a friend who went to Pakistan for a kidney. He paid $40,000 because the wait is too long in America. He couldn’t be happier and the new kidney has given him a new life. He said it’s the best money he ever spent.
Thailand, South Africa and now India have cosmetic surgery for low prices, but high world standards. The clinics are run by Americans.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/business/yourmoney/15care.html
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November 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM #102661
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI have a friend who went to Pakistan for a kidney. He paid $40,000 because the wait is too long in America. He couldn’t be happier and the new kidney has given him a new life. He said it’s the best money he ever spent.
Thailand, South Africa and now India have cosmetic surgery for low prices, but high world standards. The clinics are run by Americans.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/business/yourmoney/15care.html
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November 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM #102685
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI have a friend who went to Pakistan for a kidney. He paid $40,000 because the wait is too long in America. He couldn’t be happier and the new kidney has given him a new life. He said it’s the best money he ever spent.
Thailand, South Africa and now India have cosmetic surgery for low prices, but high world standards. The clinics are run by Americans.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/business/yourmoney/15care.html
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November 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM #102714
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI have a friend who went to Pakistan for a kidney. He paid $40,000 because the wait is too long in America. He couldn’t be happier and the new kidney has given him a new life. He said it’s the best money he ever spent.
Thailand, South Africa and now India have cosmetic surgery for low prices, but high world standards. The clinics are run by Americans.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/business/yourmoney/15care.html
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November 21, 2007 at 1:45 PM #102643
SD Realtor
ParticipantCardiff I would be very careful as well.
My wife routinely sees people who went to get certain cosmetic procedures done by substandard providers. Not major plastic surgery but more aesthetic stuff. It is a shame but more often then not she has to send them to places like Derm Associates for intensive laser treatments to try to undo the mess and many times that will not even work… This includes people who had permanent makeup that was done wrong or at an inferior salon or spa, other camo procedures, also poorly done laser treatments.
I can understand saving money on a commodity or service of some type.
However I will never understand people who risk personal injury or disfigurement just to save a few hundred bucks.
SD Realtor
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November 21, 2007 at 1:45 PM #102656
SD Realtor
ParticipantCardiff I would be very careful as well.
My wife routinely sees people who went to get certain cosmetic procedures done by substandard providers. Not major plastic surgery but more aesthetic stuff. It is a shame but more often then not she has to send them to places like Derm Associates for intensive laser treatments to try to undo the mess and many times that will not even work… This includes people who had permanent makeup that was done wrong or at an inferior salon or spa, other camo procedures, also poorly done laser treatments.
I can understand saving money on a commodity or service of some type.
However I will never understand people who risk personal injury or disfigurement just to save a few hundred bucks.
SD Realtor
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November 21, 2007 at 1:45 PM #102680
SD Realtor
ParticipantCardiff I would be very careful as well.
My wife routinely sees people who went to get certain cosmetic procedures done by substandard providers. Not major plastic surgery but more aesthetic stuff. It is a shame but more often then not she has to send them to places like Derm Associates for intensive laser treatments to try to undo the mess and many times that will not even work… This includes people who had permanent makeup that was done wrong or at an inferior salon or spa, other camo procedures, also poorly done laser treatments.
I can understand saving money on a commodity or service of some type.
However I will never understand people who risk personal injury or disfigurement just to save a few hundred bucks.
SD Realtor
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November 21, 2007 at 1:45 PM #102709
SD Realtor
ParticipantCardiff I would be very careful as well.
My wife routinely sees people who went to get certain cosmetic procedures done by substandard providers. Not major plastic surgery but more aesthetic stuff. It is a shame but more often then not she has to send them to places like Derm Associates for intensive laser treatments to try to undo the mess and many times that will not even work… This includes people who had permanent makeup that was done wrong or at an inferior salon or spa, other camo procedures, also poorly done laser treatments.
I can understand saving money on a commodity or service of some type.
However I will never understand people who risk personal injury or disfigurement just to save a few hundred bucks.
SD Realtor
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November 20, 2007 at 12:00 AM #101639
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantCall me vain, but I am seriously considering heading to TJ and getting my nasty looking varicose vein taken care of. I am supposed to be a dude, and this thing is just ugly looking.
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November 20, 2007 at 12:00 AM #101651
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantCall me vain, but I am seriously considering heading to TJ and getting my nasty looking varicose vein taken care of. I am supposed to be a dude, and this thing is just ugly looking.
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November 20, 2007 at 12:00 AM #101668
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantCall me vain, but I am seriously considering heading to TJ and getting my nasty looking varicose vein taken care of. I am supposed to be a dude, and this thing is just ugly looking.
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November 20, 2007 at 12:00 AM #101696
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantCall me vain, but I am seriously considering heading to TJ and getting my nasty looking varicose vein taken care of. I am supposed to be a dude, and this thing is just ugly looking.
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November 19, 2007 at 11:13 PM #101624
Ricechex
ParticipantOh good gawd. I guess facelifts are one of those things that you can cut out when gas prices, housing, LIVING becomes too expensive. Why is life always about looking good and having money? What about meaningful relationships? Hey…whoever posted the book—“Paradox of Choice”—thanks. I got it, and it is quite informative.
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November 19, 2007 at 11:13 PM #101635
Ricechex
ParticipantOh good gawd. I guess facelifts are one of those things that you can cut out when gas prices, housing, LIVING becomes too expensive. Why is life always about looking good and having money? What about meaningful relationships? Hey…whoever posted the book—“Paradox of Choice”—thanks. I got it, and it is quite informative.
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November 19, 2007 at 11:13 PM #101653
Ricechex
ParticipantOh good gawd. I guess facelifts are one of those things that you can cut out when gas prices, housing, LIVING becomes too expensive. Why is life always about looking good and having money? What about meaningful relationships? Hey…whoever posted the book—“Paradox of Choice”—thanks. I got it, and it is quite informative.
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November 19, 2007 at 11:13 PM #101681
Ricechex
ParticipantOh good gawd. I guess facelifts are one of those things that you can cut out when gas prices, housing, LIVING becomes too expensive. Why is life always about looking good and having money? What about meaningful relationships? Hey…whoever posted the book—“Paradox of Choice”—thanks. I got it, and it is quite informative.
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November 19, 2007 at 9:24 PM #101589
My Opinion
ParticipantHere is an article about how the economic situation is causing high end consumers to pull back on spending, which may contribute to a recession.
The super rich can party forever, but for the merely well-to-do, troubles in real estate and Wall Street can mean belt tightening.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aS8qyeqQhtXk
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November 19, 2007 at 9:24 PM #101601
My Opinion
ParticipantHere is an article about how the economic situation is causing high end consumers to pull back on spending, which may contribute to a recession.
The super rich can party forever, but for the merely well-to-do, troubles in real estate and Wall Street can mean belt tightening.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aS8qyeqQhtXk
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November 19, 2007 at 9:24 PM #101618
My Opinion
ParticipantHere is an article about how the economic situation is causing high end consumers to pull back on spending, which may contribute to a recession.
The super rich can party forever, but for the merely well-to-do, troubles in real estate and Wall Street can mean belt tightening.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aS8qyeqQhtXk
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November 19, 2007 at 9:24 PM #101646
My Opinion
ParticipantHere is an article about how the economic situation is causing high end consumers to pull back on spending, which may contribute to a recession.
The super rich can party forever, but for the merely well-to-do, troubles in real estate and Wall Street can mean belt tightening.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aS8qyeqQhtXk
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